Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[Triumph1300]

Actually - I'm not sure what Grams knows.

She's a sweet old lady and she's saved.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So scripture says, Jesus performed the miracle of Healing in Nazareth.
And you say Jesus preformed NO Miracles in Nazareth.

And you conclude that make you correct?
LOL

Actually - I siply quoted the Word of God on the matter . . .
Mark 6:5-6
He COULD NOT do any miracles there, EXCEPT lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.
He was AMAZED at their lack of faith. Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village.

 

[BreadOfLife]

She's a sweet old lady and she's saved.

You don't have ANY idea if she is saved or not.
Only GOD know the heart.

Pretty presumptuous of you . . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

It means the baby is saved.

It means the person is born again in Christ.

 

[Triumph1300]

If she got the teachings of the Catholic Church so horribly wrong, she might have gotten this wrong as well . . .

Nope.
She's a sweet old lady and she's saved.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Already played your game a few weeks ago.
You want to know IF men While in their natural LIFE "ARE" converted....
"ARE" forgiven,
"ARE" crucified,
"ARE" washed,
"ARE" sanctified,
"ARE" justifed,
"ARE" saved,
"ARE" quickened,
"ARE" covered,
"ARE" set apart,
"ARE" Kept with Chirst
"ARE' With God
"God is with such man Forever"
Go get yourself a student Bible and read it.
Perhaps it will be billet to satisfy your need for one liners and simple language.

And still - not ONE single verse to support your fallacy . . .

 

[Helen]

It means the baby is saved.

Much like the church of England christening... blessing the baby into the family of God, charging the parents to bring it up in the scriptures and God's way.
And dedicating the child to God Himself.
Invoking the name of Father , The Son and Holy Ghost over a tiny life is a good thing...Id rather my child was covered by the name of God...protection against the schemes of The Enemy.

 

[Triumph1300]

It means the person is born again in Christ.

Lol.....and you just said that only God knows if Grams is saved?

 

[Helen]

She's a sweet old lady and she's saved.

So am I. She's only 6 years older than me.

 

[Triumph1300]

Much like the church of England christening... blessing the baby into the family of God, charging the parents to bring it up in the scriptures and God's way.
And dedicating the child to God Himself.
Invoking the name of Father , The Son and Holy Ghost over a tiny life is a good thing...Id rather my child was covered by the name of God...protection against the schemes of The Enemy.

True.
But that's dedication, not salvation.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nope.
She's a sweet old lady and she's saved.

And again - YOU don't have any idea who is "saved" and who is not.
Only GOD know the heart - and you ain't Him . . ..

 

[Triumph1300]

So am I.

That's two of us.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lol.....and you just said that only God knows if Grams is saved?

And I meant it.

 

[Triumph1300]

And again - YOU don't have any idea who is "saved" and who is not.
Only GOD know the heart - and you ain't Him . . ..

Really?
And you just indicated that baby baptism means salvation.
How do you know if only God knows? Are YOU God?

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's two of us.

I hope so . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Really?
And you just indicated that baby baptism means salvation.
How do you know if only God knows?

When did I say that a baby is "saved".
YOU said that back in post #1600 - not me.

 

[Helen]

Really?
And you just indicated that baby baptism means salvation.
How do you know if only God knows? Are YOU God?

This is a good question @BreadOfLife

If they, and you...were saved at baptism as you mentioned earlier...
How come no one knows if they are saved until heaven
...that sounds like two salvation experiences to me!! Hmmmm

 

[Triumph1300]

BOL, Check your post Number 1604:

This is what you said:
It means the baby is saved.
It means the person is born again in Christ.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Check your post Number 1604:

This is what you said:
It means the baby is saved.
It means the person is born again in Christ.

A born again person isn't saved until they get to Heaven.
The following verses ALL speak about born again Christians who can fall away and be LOST . . .

Romans 11:22
“See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you REMAIN in his kindness; otherwise you to will be cut off.”
Paul is warning the faithful to REMAIN in God’s favor or they will lose their salvation. How can they lose what they never had?

Hebrews 10:26-27
“If we sin deliberately AFTER receiving KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.”
This is a clear warning that falling away from God will result in the loss of our salvation. The Greek ford for “knowledge” used here is NOT the usual word (oida). This is talking about a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei). This verse is about CHRISTIANS who had an EPIGNOSIS of Christ and who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.
For it would have been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them.
Here, Peter illustrates that those who had a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei) of Christ – CHRISTIANS – who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 3:17
Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
Peter is warning the faithful not to fall back into sin and lawlessness.

1 John 2:24
See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. IF it does, you also will REMAIN in the Son and in the Father.
This is an admonition to try to remain faithful.

Rev. 3:5
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
God cannot blot out a name that was never there in the first place. He is talking about CHRISTIANS who are already saved and how they can LOSE their salvation.

Rev. 22:19
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
How can God take away somebody’s share of heaven if they never had it to begin with? This is about CHRISTIANS who may or may NOT make it into Heaven.

 

[BreadOfLife]

This is a good question @BreadOfLife

If they, and you...were saved at baptism as you mentioned earlier...
How come no one knows if they are saved until heaven
...that sounds like two salvation experiences to me!! Hmmmm

Read my last post (#1619).