Babylon

[Spiritual Israelite]

Are you done? The sheep in Matthew 25 represent the nations, not the bride Jerusalem.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

You are an immature child. Were you raised by wolves? Christ's sheep are His followers, as He Himself taught in John 10. They include Jewish believers (His first fold) and Gentile believers (His other fold). Very simple. Yet, still too complex for a child like you to understand. Consider yourself to have just been trounced yet again. Don't you ever tire of it?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

You are an immature child. Were you raised by wolves? Christ's sheep are His followers, as He Himself taught in John 10. They include Jewish believers (His first fold) and Gentile believers (His other fold). Very simple. Yet, still too complex for a child like you to understand. Consider yourself to have just been trounced yet again. Don't you ever tire of it?

Matthew 25
32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Right there is says the sheep are gathered after Christ sit on his throne, while the bride Jerusalem is gathered before he sits on his throne, while in the clouds according to 1 Thessalonians 4. That makes the sheep part of the nations, which are see at the eternal state in Revelation 21.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Matthew 25
32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Right there is says the sheep are gathered after Christ sit on his throne, while the bride Jerusalem is gathered before he sits on his throne, while in the clouds according to 1 Thessalonians 4. That makes the sheep part of the nations, which are see at the eternal state in Revelation 21.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

You are by far the most delusional person I've ever come across. Your arguments are extremely weak but you think you are making irrefutable arguments. LOL! Hilarious!

What in the world are you even saying here? When those who belong to Christ are gathered to Him in the air that is shortly before they are gathered together with the wicked before His throne. What is hard to understand about that? Do you see 1 Thess 4:14-17 and Matthew 25:31-46 as referring to two different comings of Christ? You're so terrible at communicating that I can only guess as to what your gibberish means.

 

[Jerry Huerta]

You are by far the most delusional person I've ever come across. Your arguments are extremely weak but you think you are making irrefutable arguments. LOL! Hilarious!

What in the world are you even saying here? When those who belong to Christ are gathered to Him in the air that is shortly before they are gathered together with the wicked before His throne. What is hard to understand about that? Do you see 1 Thess 4:14-17 and Matthew 25:31-46 as referring to two different comings of Christ? You're so terrible at communicating that I can only guess as to what your gibberish means.

See how thoughtless you are. When the bride meets Christ in the air it's to separate her from the tares, the wicked, the sinner, the goats,

Matthew 13
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers,

The BRETHREN are separated from the goats when the angels gather them together in the clouds when Christ returns. Christ doesn’t have to separate them again when they return to earth. Again, the BRETHREN are not separated a second time.

It’s those that have their eternal inheritance with the “nations” that are separated from the goats when Christ returns to sit on his throne on earth,

Revelation 21
23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.
24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,

The sheep in Matthew 25 are not the BRETHREN in verse 40 but represent those of the nations in contrast to the bride of Christ, Israel. Israel is a NATION, not NATIONS, plural.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

See how thoughtless you are. When the bride meets Christ in the air it's to separate her from the tares, the wicked, the sinner, the goats,

Matthew 13
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers,

The BRETHREN are separated from the goats when the angels gather them together in the clouds when Christ returns. Christ doesn’t have to separate them again when they return to earth. Again, the BRETHREN are not separated a second time.

It’s those that have their eternal inheritance with the “nations” that are separated from the goats when Christ returns to sit on his throne on earth,

Revelation 21
23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.
24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,

The sheep in Matthew 25 are not the BRETHREN in verse 40 but represent those of the nations in contrast to the bride of Christ, Israel. Israel is a NATION, not NATIONS, plural.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

Your foolish posts remind me of this verse...

Proverbs 13:16 All who are prudent act with knowledge, but fools expose their folly.

 

[claninja]

See how thoughtless you are. When the bride meets Christ in the air it's to separate her from the tares, the wicked, the sinner, the goats,

Matthew 13
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers,

The BRETHREN are separated from the goats when the angels gather them together in the clouds when Christ returns. Christ doesn’t have to separate them again when they return to earth. Again, the BRETHREN are not separated a second time.

It’s those that have their eternal inheritance with the “nations” that are separated from the goats when Christ returns to sit on his throne on earth,

Revelation 21
23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.
24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,

The sheep in Matthew 25 are not the BRETHREN in verse 40 but represent those of the nations in contrast to the bride of Christ, Israel. Israel is a NATION, not NATIONS, plural.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

See how thoughtless you are. When the bride meets Christ in the air it's to separate her from the tares, the wicked, the sinner, the goats,

Matthew 13
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers,

The BRETHREN are separated from the goats when the angels gather them together in the clouds when Christ returns. Christ doesn’t have to separate them again when they return to earth. Again, the BRETHREN are not separated a second time.

It’s those that have their eternal inheritance with the “nations” that are separated from the goats when Christ returns to sit on his throne on earth,

Revelation 21
23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.
24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,

The sheep in Matthew 25 are not the BRETHREN in verse 40 but represent those of the nations in contrast to the bride of Christ, Israel. Israel is a NATION, not NATIONS, plural.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

So are you thinking that the parable of the sheep and goats is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

Your foolish posts remind me of this verse...

Proverbs 13:16 All who are prudent act with knowledge, but fools expose their folly.

Actually you should remove the beam from your own eye first.

Like I said, it's a dumb idea that Christ sends his angels to separate the bride from the goats to meet him in the air and then returns to join them with the goats again only to separate them again. Like I said, that's a dumb idea.

 

[Jerry Huerta]

So are you thinking that the parable of the sheep and goats is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)?

Is there a question is that?

 

[claninja]

Is there a question is that?

What?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

What?

Not quite sure what you're saying. Please elaborate and please be sure I haven't answered it previously.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Actually you should remove the beam from your own eye first.

I would if there was one there. I've done it before. But, in this case, it doesn't apply.

Like I said, it's a dumb idea that Christ sends his angels to separate the bride from the goats to meet him in the air and then returns to join them with the goats again only to separate them again. Like I said, that's a dumb idea.

Yes, that is a dumb idea if that's what I actually believed. But, I don't. Nice job of not even giving me a chance to explain what I believe.

I believe the church is already separated in one group and then unsaved are resurrected in one group and then both groups are brought before Christ's throne. So, they are already separated into two groups at this point, but they have not yet been separated from each other to His right hand and left hand. So, the sheep, who are all together before His throne, are placed on His right hand and the goats, who are also all together before His throne, are placed on His left hand side.

So, only once are believers mixed in together with unbelievers like we are now in the world with believers being gathered and separated from unbelievers when Jesus comes. No other separation takes place in that sense. The only separation that takes place after that, if you want to call it a separation, is simply for the already separated sheep to be placed on His right hand and the already separated goats on His left hand.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What?

Have you read his discussion with me? Good luck in trying to have a rational, adult discussion with this guy.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Is there a question is that?

Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit for you.

He said this:

So are you thinking that the parable of the sheep and goats is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)?

He is asking you if you believe that Matthew 25:31-46 "is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)"?

Seems like a pretty straightforward question to me. What don't you understand about it?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit for you.

He said this:

He is asking you if you believe that Matthew 25:31-46 "is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)"?

Seems like a pretty straightforward question to me. What don't you understand about it?

Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit for you.

He said this:

He is asking you if you believe that Matthew 25:31-46 "is in regards to the judgement on the righteous and wicked for how they treated the brothers and sisters of Christ (the sick, naked, imprisoned, etc…)"?

Seems like a pretty straightforward question to me. What don't you understand about it?

Let HER talk for herself. We have a history, and she has a head on her shoulder, more than I can say for you.

 

[Jerry Huerta]

I would if there was one there. I've done it before. But, in this case, it doesn't apply.


Yes, that is a dumb idea if that's what I actually believed. But, I don't. Nice job of not even giving me a chance to explain what I believe.

I believe the church is already separated in one group and then unsaved are resurrected in one group and then both groups are brought before Christ's throne. So, they are already separated into two groups at this point, but they have not yet been separated from each other to His right hand and left hand. So, the sheep, who are all together before His throne, are placed on His right hand and the goats, who are also all together before His throne, are placed on His left hand side.

So, only once are believers mixed in together with unbelievers like we are now in the world with believers being gathered and separated from unbelievers when Jesus comes. No other separation takes place in that sense. The only separation that takes place after that, if you want to call it a separation, is simply for the already separated sheep to be placed on His right hand and the already separated goats on His left hand.

Don't make excuses, you've had plenty of time.

I see the beam remains in your eye. You said: “they are already separated into two groups at this point, but they have not yet been separated from each other…” What a bunch of bull! What buffoonery! They are separated and not separated! What a joke.

Like I said, it's a dumb idea that Christ sends his angels to separate the bride from the goats to meet him in the air and then returns to join them with the goats again only to separate them again. Like I said, that's a dumb idea.

If they have to be separated that means they were joined beforehand, and that’s what the passage states,

Matthew 25
32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

I would say nice try, but I would be lying. What a pathetic try to worm your way out of the notion the bride is separated from the goats before they return with Christ and you put them right back together with them in violation to Matthew 13:41. We can’t have them joined again so he can separate them again except in bizzarro land, where you’re from.

The only sound interpretation is that the sheep represent the nations, as distinct from the bride Jerusalem. After all they, the nations, have a place in the eternal kingdom, distinct from the bride/Jerusalem. Their kings bring their glory to the city,

Revelation 21
23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.
24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Don't make excuses, you've had plenty of time.

I see the beam remains in your eye. You said: “they are already separated into two groups at this point, but they have not yet been separated from each other…” What a bunch of bull! What buffoonery! They are separated and not separated! What a joke.

You are completely misrepresenting my view because of your non-existent reading comprehension skills. That is the real joke here! I can't even have an adult discussion with you because you are a child who can't read and can't communicate. You're a hopeless cause.

Like I said, it's a dumb idea that Christ sends his angels to separate the bride from the goats to meet him in the air and then returns to join them with the goats again only to separate them again. Like I said, that's a dumb idea.

He doesn't separate them again in the sense that they are all mixed together again and need to be separated again. They are just placed on different sides of Jesus at that point. Hello? You cannot read. Learn to read and then get back to me. In the meantime, I'm not wasting any more time on your childish nonsense.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Let HER talk for herself. We have a history, and she has a head on her shoulder, more than I can say for you.

She never told me her gender. Since you have such trouble with reading comprehension, I can clarify her question for you if I want. Okay, little buddy? You're not the boss of me. The question wasn't hard to clarify. I can clarify a question for your feeble mind that is easy for everyone else to understand if I feel like it. Comprende, chico?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

You are completely misrepresenting my view because of your non-existent reading comprehension skills. That is the real joke here! I can't even have an adult discussion with you because you are a child who can't read and can't communicate. You're a hopeless cause.


He doesn't separate them again in the sense that they are all mixed together again and need to be separated again. They are just placed on different sides of Jesus at that point. Hello? You cannot read. Learn to read and then get back to me. In the meantime, I'm not wasting any more time on your childish nonsense.

You're the one with the reading problem,

Matthew 25
32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

If they have to be separated, it means they were together beforehand. It means they are separated to stand on the right and left only after they were together.

And the passage states the sheep represent the NATIONS, not the brethren, bride of Christ.

You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?

 

[Jerry Huerta]

She never told me she her gender. Since you have such trouble with reading comprehension, I can clarify her question for you if I want. Okay, little buddy? You're not the boss of me. The question wasn't hard to clarify. I can clarify a question for your feeble mind that is easy for everyone else to understand if I feel like it. Comprende, chico?

How silly.

 

[Jerry Huerta]

I'm done for the night with the silliness. I'll be back when I get around to it.