Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

Yes. The stewardess said she’d get someone to talk to the unruly passenger instead of kicking the passenger out herself. you didn’t see that at the 35 second mark?

I did.

Portion being highlighted?

Yes, highlighted in yellow.

 

[Wrangler]

highlighted in yellow.

No, I don’t see yellow highlights in the vid saying what you claim. Point is, she got ‘someone’ else to talk to the unruly passenger, not her supervisor as you claim.

 

[Mink57]

No, I don’t see yellow highlights in the vid saying what you claim. Point is, she got ‘someone’ else to talk to the unruly passenger, not her supervisor as you claim.

Yes, she did. It's right there in Scott's own post.

I didn't say that the part about the supervisor was highlighted in yellow. I said 2 paragraphs ABOVE the highlighting was where Scott said that.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, she did. It's right there in Scott's own post.

I didn't say that the part about the supervisor was highlighted in yellow. I said 2 paragraphs ABOVE the highlighting was where Scott said that.

You keep referring to Scott’s own post. I’m not seeing that. It does t change the vid.

 

[Mink57]

You keep referring to Scott’s own post. I’m not seeing that. It does t change the vid.

I'll see if I can take a screen shot. Might take me a few minutes though.

 

[Mink57]

See the yellow highlighted portion? Two paragraphs above that. The paragraph begins, "She the(n) proceeded..."

 

[Wrangler]

For some reason, I can’t see these comments from YouTube on my phone. Thanks for taking the time to get the screen shot.

 

[Mink57]

For some reason, I can’t see these comments from YouTube on my phone. Thanks for taking the time to get the screen shot.

No problem.

That's weird. Technology at its finest.

 

[TLHKAJ]

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See the yellow highlighted portion? Two paragraphs above that. The paragraph begins, "She the(n) proceeded..."

It seems to me that it was a flight attendant and a supervisor who first came out (or that the supervisor came right behind the flight attendant). They were to inform the woman to leave, "per Captain's orders." But it isn't their place to physically remove passengers. That would be the role of the airport police, if the person refuses to leave after being ordered to do so. I mean, why didn't the Captain physically remove the woman? Is the Captain not a man? How many men are in the cockpit? I understand that there are women pilots as well.

 

[Mink57]

It seems to me that it was a flight attendant and a supervisor who first came out (or that the supervisor came right behind the flight attendant).

The bolded is correct.

They were to inform the woman to leave, "per Captain's orders." But it isn't their place to physically remove passengers.

Correct again. The cabin crew can ask the passenger to leave (with them), which is what the supervisor told the unruly passenger. He said (I'm paraphrasing) that the passenger could either go with him off the plane, or the airport police would do it.

That would be the role of the airport police, if the person refuses to leave after being ordered to do so. I mean, why didn't the Captain physically remove the woman? Is the Captain not a man? How many men are in the cockpit? I understand that there are women pilots as well.

The unruly passenger was being unruly even BEFORE she got on the plane. The Captain WAS informed of the situation and may have issued directions to the Cabin Crew Supervisor as to how to proceed. The supervisor did say, "...per captain's orders".

In all honesty, I'm not sure if the Captain would have the authority to physically remove someone from the plane (liability). After all, if (s)he injures a passenger, the airline could be liable. Whereas, if airport security does it, they have training in these situations.

 

[Wrangler]

Love for men? Tiktok FEMINIST THREATENS Male EXTINCTION?!

 

[Wynona]

Even though I was trained to think of home as a comfy prison, learning to live quietly at home has been very healing for me mentally and physically.

I thought I had to compete with men and have a single interest or skill that I mastered. I wondered why I never stuck with any of those skills I came up with. I was insecure about how many times I switched majors and how little I cared about "traveling and having experiences".

Home is a special place to me now. I don't have to keep up with the productivity of men because I dont have to work with them.

Home is my calling and my ministry. When I serve at home, Im serving the Lord. And in that service, doing it wholeheartedly, there is a joy and a self-forgetfulness that goes beyond words.

 

[Wrangler]

 

[Wynona]

 

[Naomanos]

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Women can and do have both without issue.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Women can and do have both without issue.

This is true for many. Yet, most women who have children will choose to modify their work hours, or even quit and hopefully be able to rely solely on one income in the household (their husband). My daughter did this. She has training in different fields of work, and had a nice paying job. She chose to work from home for awhile, and then to stay home altogether with 2 toddlers and a baby soon to be born. Thankfully, her husband has a great career and supports the family financially very well. Before children, they both contributed well and at this point, that was very beneficial for their present goals and needs.

That isn't financially possible for many women/mothers and that is sad. So women do need choices. Every household is different depending on their job situations, health, and other circumstances. Just because a woman is sitting in a cubicle doesn't make her evil. There are many reasons a woman may choose or need to work.

 

[Mink57]

Even though I was trained to think of home as a comfy prison, learning to live quietly at home has been very healing for me mentally and physically.

A comfy "prison"? Well, for a lot of women, it WAS a 'prison' of sorts, because the opportunities availed to women WAY before you, were limited. Maybe because you didn't live through it, you're wondering, "What gives?"

Almost seems like because of the way things are NOW, they were ALWAYS that way...

I thought I had to compete with men and have a single interest or skill that I mastered. I wondered why I never stuck with any of those skills I came up with. I was insecure about how many times I switched majors and how little I cared about "traveling and having experiences".

WHO told you that you had to 'compete with men'? I think recall the you did the whole college thing and career thing because you didn't wand to disappoint your parents. Not your mother OR your father, but parents.

Did you even TALK to either of them about your feelings about going to college and working?

Let me ask you a question: How would you feel...if after having 2 children...and if your husband wanted to divorce you....that the children LEGALLY stayed with HIM?

On a personal note...My dad was one of 11 kids by my grandmother. My grandfather divorced her. This was in the 1940's. My grandmother was declared BY LAW, that she was "unfit" to take care of 11 kids, because she had no means of earning an income to support them. Being a SAHM. All 11 kids went to my grandfather BY LAW. What did he do AFTER the fact? He put ALL 11 kids in FOSTER HOMES. My father, uncles and aunts were in foster homes and what THEY called the "Institution" from the time my dad was 8 until he was 15...at which point, he ran away.

But that's the way laws were back then. Once a woman marries, she pretty much gave up her identity...her income...her kids...to the man she married...hoping and praying that her husband would continue to find favor with her, until they die.

How would you feel, if after having 2 children, that your husband could divorce you, and KEEP your children? AND your income, IF you worked?

Think about it...

don't have to keep up with the productivity of men because I dont have to work with them.

Good for you!

Home is my calling and my ministry. When I serve at home, Im serving the Lord. And in that service, doing it wholeheartedly, there is a joy and a self-forgetfulness that goes beyond words.

I'm sure a lot of women in the 1940's felt the same way....

 

[TLHKAJ]

On a personal note...My dad was one of 11 kids by my grandmother. My grandfather divorced her. This was in the 1940's. My grandmother was declared BY LAW, that she was "unfit" to take care of 11 kids, because she had no means of earning an income to support them. Being a SAHM. All 11 kids went to my grandfather BY LAW. What did he do AFTER the fact? He put ALL 11 kids in FOSTER HOMES. My father, uncles and aunts were in foster homes and what THEY called the "Institution" from the time my dad was 8 until he was 15...at which point, he ran away.

But that's the way laws were back then. Once a woman marries, she pretty much gave up her identity...her income...her kids...to the man she married...hoping and praying that her husband would continue to find favor with her, until they die.

How would you feel, if after having 2 children, that your husband could divorce you, and KEEP your children? AND your income, IF you worked?

This is horrific. A woman marries a man, has children with him, dedicates her whole life to be a keeper at home ....and he just up and divorces her. And because she has limited rights and resources, she is deprived of her babies. Her husband obviously didn't care enough to provide for them.

How horribly unjust and unfair ...all the way around, especially a loving mother and her children. And this is exactly why women need rights and choices.

 

[Mink57]

This is horrific. A woman marries a man, has children with him, dedicates her whole life to be a keeper at home ....and he just up and divorces her. And because she has limited rights and resources, she is deprived of her babies. Her husband obviously didn't care enough to provide for them.

Yup. She did not have the right to keep her own children. Heck, she didn't even have the right to be on a jury that could testify on her behalf to keep her own children.

Laws these days in this regard aren't gender specific. The law favors the parent who spends more time with the child, tending to his/her every day needs...which is USUALLY the mother. But...is that the mother's fault?

Thankfully, more and more father's these days are climbing on board the parenting wagon. And opting to be SAHD's. And yes, more and more dad's ARE winning custody because THEY were the one's who were 'stepping up'.

What's weird, is that these "guys" pretty much assigned women's roles as caregivers to their kids. And then once divorce happens, they wonder WHY they're not getting custody.

A great BIG DUH.

How horribly unjust and unfair ...all the way around, especially a loving mother and her children. And this is exactly why women need rights and choices.

Exactly.

 

[Wynona]

A comfy "prison"? Well, for a lot of women, it WAS a 'prison' of sorts, because the opportunities availed to women WAY before you, were limited. Maybe because you didn't live through it, you're wondering, "What gives?"

So women did not find domestic life fulfilling in the past?

Perspective can change a lot. My husband sees me as being the freer person because I operate at home without a boss.

I used to see home as too limiting until I realized there's no greener grass out there and Im not really missing anything. I already have what people long for and that's wholeness in Christ.

I used to think that as long as I was achieving in education, had money to buy clothes and shop, and got away from the obligations of marriage, my life was set but it was actually vain and empty. It was all about me but it did not satisfy.

Later in life, I began to stop ignoring all the homeless and give. The homeless person was simply grateful God woke them up that morning and they now had their next meal. The hypocrisy amd vanity of my life became obvious.

I have no power to take away women's choices. Im a homemaker. I am here to say having the option to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing. Wisdom cries out so that people can prosper but will anyone listen?

Christian wives are commanded to be keepers at home (Titus 2:5). When women value their homes, their marriages tend to do better. They have more energy for their husbands and children and can cook nutritious meals for them. The divorce rate has skyrocketed since the second wave of feminism and since allowing no fault divorce. Most divorces are initiated by women.

Women are not "having it all" and balancing it well.

Of course there is no utopia and there are women in niche situations where they need advocacy and support. But feminism is not the answer for society because it has made society objectively worse and hurt families and had influenced Christians away from scripture.