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It makes absolute sense to me. Visceral learning. Adreneline reinforcement for memory. Experiencing being brought safely through the darkness, then knowing as a fact that God is able.I was praying one time and talking to the Lord and I asked him why is all the suffering necessary? And He answered me right away and said, because some things can't be taught, they must be experienced to understand them and learn.../
Whoa. does that makes sense to you? It does me!
That's true... that and this is no "simulation" View attachment 59734
It makes absolute sense to me. Visceral learning. Adreneline reinforcement for memory. Experiencing being brought safely through the darkness, then knowing as a fact that God is able.
Much love!
Does this mean that God causes all bad things like rape, murder, etc, etc like the calvinists and muzliums believe?
They think when a little child is raped by a pervert... God causes the pervert to do the dastardly deed
This is a prayer for us all! To lay down our lives, to not serve our own needs, but to give ourselves to care for and nurture others, that they too may know the LORD.One time I prayed and asked the Lord if He would teach me to love others the way He loves me...
It was only a couple days and suddenly I had the most obnoxious fellow in the neighborhood sitting in my house!...and I went, oh. and I understood how much Jesus loves us all and when He came, they killed him! and He still loved them!
I mean, human behavior and will, like the way we observe behavior in the double - slit interference experiment, We are merely observers, and God is the rule-maker.
Our observations do not change the light, God is running these things, and God's rules do not change by human will.
The crimes you are talking about are human observation, human behavior, I am talking about all the observations in the double-slit interference experiment, Does not change by human behavior, do you think your observation changed the outcome? Terrible.
You don't understand what I mean, and you don't understand what the double slit interferometry is all about, I don't expect you to understand what I'm trying to say right away. But I never meant to laugh at God. Thank you for reminding me. I know it's out of your kindness. What I want to express is that human behavior does not influence the will of God, as has been shown in the double-slit interference experiment. The beginning and the end of light are not transferred or changed by man's will, but the light is constant, It's like God never changes. So Jesus likened himself to light and came into the world.Sounds like a bunch of new age garbage....
Got scripture for any of this???
Galatians 6:7-9
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Nobody can escape this truth without mocking God! View attachment 59737
I mean, human behavior and will, like the way we observe behavior in the double - slit interference experiment, We are merely observers, and God is the rule-maker.
Our observations do not change the light, God is running these things, and God's rules do not change by human will.
The crimes you are talking about are human observation, human behavior, I am talking about all the observations in the double-slit interference experiment, Does not change by human behavior, do you think your observation changed the outcome? Terrible.
I think you have to watch the double slit experiement video again, because their results was if a camera was on then they got an interference pattern and if the camera was off then they got a wave pattern, so observation had everything to do with it.
I dont think light has it's own will? I think it does what God tells it to!
What I want to say is that what I learned from the double-slit intervention experiment is that no matter what human behavior is, nothing can change the will of God. The observation of the light from the beginning to the end does not change the light, or the will of God, Because the expression of light in this experiment transcends time. This means that God's will is not transferred or changed by our actions. From beginning to end, God does not change for us. Your example does not mean that our consciousness can change matter, simply because God's will is so, and he has never changed.It has to be. Remember that the Lord looks at our heart and intentions and if our intentions are for, someone to be healed, or save their life, it happens every day. A mom gets into an auto accident and her child is pinned under the care, she's not even a Believer and there is no one there to help save her son. So she focuses her intentions to try to lift the car, save my son save my son, she lifts the car up and saves her son. She didn't know how to pray, but our Lord has Compassion on His people and God might be able to let her lift the car to encourage her to turn to God...So God does it. We've all heard those stories, right?
Her heart and her intentions were on her son and she certainly loves her son and is in a state of anguish, and the Lord is standing there looking at her heart, so God grants her enough power to save the boy! God does stuff like that.
So, our will and our heart can affect the material world What does scripture say? You have not because you ask not. It takes our will to ask the Lord for anything. Even non believers God is looking at their heart and intentions, and the Lord loves them both! So he has mercy and compassion and saves them. Scripture says that whatever we pray for if it is within God's will then He will answer that prayer. You have not because you ask not.
This is a prayer for us all! To lay down our lives, to not serve our own needs, but to give ourselves to care for and nurture others, that they too may know the LORD.
Much love!
What I want to say is that what I learned from the double-slit intervention experiment is that no matter what human behavior is, nothing can change the will of God. The observation of the light from the beginning to the end does not change the light, or the will of God, Because the expression of light in this experiment transcends time. This means that God's will is not transferred or changed by our actions. From beginning to end, God does not change for us. Your example does not mean that our consciousness can change matter, simply because God's will is so, and he has never changed.
Of course I do, it's just that people think their observations change the results, but the experiment itself goes beyond the concept of time, Do you think we can go beyond time to change the state of light? So who do you think changed the state of light beyond time after the observation?That's quite the word salad there. While you did say some things that are true...we disagree on the premise of what your saying. It sounds to me like, you did not understand the double slit experiment?
How could God not adhere to His own rules? God is the rules.Isnt that very much a narrow minded view of this? God is not subject to the rules that He made for us. He's God.
How could God not adhere to His own rules? God is the rules.
What I aim to express is this: The results of the double-slit experiment reveal that while humans may believe their free will alters outcomes, the truth is that God uses light to declare His immutable sovereignty. From the moment light is emitted to the pattern it forms, nothing shifts by human will—it unfolds solely according to His will.
What Jesus Christ expresses is the parable, the need to heal is the human mind, the spiritual thing. But Jesus Christ embodied the miracles in concrete things. When you get sick, most times don't cure people by praying, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus period, Did you see those false prayers on TV? How many people were healed by those prayers?He made the rules any physics and all of it. But that dont mean that God must build and come to earth in a ship, because as we know, horses cant fly, lol. If He wants to talk to you does he need a cell phone. You needa think outside the box.
Nobody said that human will shifted the patterns of light in the double slit (DS) experiment it was said that they set up a special camera to try to be able to tell which slit the light photon went thru each time. And they got a different pattern.
If what you say is true then dont pray for people because human will can not affect an outcome anyway? That's absurd and not biblical.
Should I tear this out of my Bible too?
Matthew 10:7-8
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give..../KJV
So are you saying that I can not meet someone who is sick and my will wants to heal them...but I will not be able to heal them? Did Jesus lie?
You're mixed up friend. Here, I'll give you short testimony. Mot the red sea parting but cool nonetheless.
I woke up in the middle of the night and went downstairs for a drink. I was standing in my kitchen looking out the window and I saw my tomato plants. So since I've always heard that we should talk to our plants, I wondered if they could hear me from inside the house? So I began speaking praises yo my tomato plants telling them how beautiful they are and to grow up into big strong plants and bear much fruit and stuff, and I noticed that the plants I was talking to were swaying. I couldnt hear any wind though. I looked around at the trees and other plants and, none of them were moving at all. There was no wind. So I stepped outside to get closer and confirm this stuff. What's going on here?! I walked up on the plants, and...they stopped moving, lol. Oh! I wasnt speaking to them any more! So I started speaking blessings and strong growth and complimenting them...and they started swaying again! There was zero wind! It's like they were responding to my voice towards them. As if, they were dancing for me!! I dunno how long I stood out there talking to them, but I had a fantastic harvest of tomatoes that year!
That's just the kind of guy I am. If I hear a wives tale, I want to test it! I even tested God about tithing because He said we can. But this was results. I had seen those plants respond to me! True story.
Now we could talk doctrines all day long and not hold a candle to an ounce of experience. I saw this with my own eyes. So I started paying attention more. because the man with experience is not at the mercy of the man with doctrine only.
You dont have to believe me, but I saw it. and so I know that you are wrong and havent realized that human will can affect our world I wanted lots and lots of big tomatoes, that was my will. And I got them. I bet you a dollar that the only reason that you dont believe stuff like that, is because you have never tried it for yourself, so you've never seen it, so you dont believe it.
Try it sometimes! Oh it might sound stupid so just, (become as a little child and try t any way, like a game. Ever since then I talk to my trees, I talk to my land! Because when God first created Earth, when it came time for the plants to come into existence, it doesn't say that the Lord directly created the plants! It says, and God caused the earth to bring forth all sorts of vegetation, and it was so. So the earth brought forth the plant life from what it already had in it. Do you realize what that could mean?!
That could mean that, the apple tree (arbitrary) is not in the apple tree seeds! the apple tree is in the earth, so perhaps, the seed is merely a plant GPS system which tells the earth where you want the apple tree to come forth! Make sense? It do to me.
I want to express is that human behavior does not influence the will of God
What I want to express is that human behavior does not influence the will of God, as has been shown in the double-slit interference experiment.
What Jesus Christ expresses is the parable, the need to heal is the human mind, the spiritual thing.