If Reality Is A Simulation, Then Belief Is The Code

[MA2444]

It's what I already said. There is no second healing in Scripture. "your faith has healed you" or literally, "your faith has saved you". It's a reference to the cleansing of leprosy. Jesus said this same thing a number of times to people He had healed.

Right. Agreed. But the scripture says that they were cleansed on the way to the Priest.

And either, after they seen the Priest or right after they discovered that they were cleansed of the leprosy one of them got very grateful and so returned to give thanks to Jesus, right?

And for taking the time to return and thank Him, I suppose that Jesus wanted to do something else for Him also? So Jesus made him whole.

There was no two healings. They were first cleansed of the leprosy and healed of it, it was gone! But when people get leprosy it makes body parts fall off and stuff, right? So even though they didnt have Leprosy anymore, they might have still een some missing fingers and toes. The damage to their body from the leprosy remained after they had been cured of leprosy.
And that's what Jesus did, the man got his fingers and toes back! I bet he looked up his friends to show off his new toes!

If he was not made whole when he returned to Jesus...then what did happen?!

 

[MA2444]

Can you tell me in your own words the meanings of both words

I just did in my last post.

It was two different events. The 1st event, they were going to show themselves to the priest and were cleansed (or healed) as they traveled, all 10 of them.
The 2nd event was not a healing, the leprosy was gone and one of the 10 guys said whoa, I must go back to Him and thank Him! So he did. He wasnt on his way to the priest anymore, he went to Jesus.

You dont seem to agree with me on this, but you havent really stated for yourself the reason why.

 

[marks]

THis

I suppose that Jesus wanted to do something else for Him also? So Jesus made him whole.

There was no two healings. They were first cleansed of the leprosy and healed of it, it was gone! But when people get leprosy it makes body parts fall off and stuff, right? So even though they didnt have Leprosy anymore, they might have still een some missing fingers and toes. The damage to their body from the leprosy remained after they had been cured of leprosy.
And that's what Jesus did, the man got his fingers and toes back! I bet he looked up his friends to show off his new toes!

If he was not made whole when he returned to Jesus...then what did happen?!

This is purely imagination. You have no idea what parts they may or may not have been missing, how long they were lepers, none of this. Yep, I think The Chosen is a man making a bunch of money the same way his father did, making up falsehoods about the Bible for a living.

It was his father, Jerry Jenkins, who co-wrote the Left Behind series, in which among other things, a man who had received the mark of the beast was forgiven and saved, the mark removed. That is deadly error.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so they say.

I've said what I can say.

Much love!

 

[MA2444]

God help Dallas Jenkins! Where Scripture is silent, Dallas is not, and fills peoples minds with vain imaginations, leading them down false paths.

No, it's not vain imaginations, more like, reading comprehension. It says the 10 were cleansed as they went.

Then one guy left the group of 10 and went by himself back to give thanks. We know this because Jesus asked him, where are the other 9? !! And when Jesus said to the man your faith has made thee whole...Jesus wasn't taking to all 10 of them. It was one guy there! so while all 10 were healed, only one was made whole. It. Makes. Sense.

 

[marks]

You dont seem to agree with me on this, but you havent really stated for yourself the reason why.

It's not Bible. I do not take well to people ripping off the Bible to weave their own story with it, and look at you, hook line and sinker, sorry to be blunt!

I'm no stranger to the Bible or the Greek text, and this story is laided out pretty simply, with a number of commonalities to other healings. That the 1 received anything different from the other 9 is not in the text. It's just not there.

I could in the very same manner claim that the man went on to live to 150 years old, because of the fullness of healing as he returned to Jesus. I could say anything I want, or repeat anything I hear. I choose to stick to what it say in the Bible, and nevermind about what it doesn't say.

I feel I'm repeating myself, and there is no need for that.

Much love!

 

[marks]

more like, reading comprehension.

Like, reading what? Show me from the Bible that the man had lost his fingers and that they were restored. I would like to read it for myself.

And if it's not there, then what? Empty imagination.

Much love!

 

[MA2444]

THis

This is purely imagination. You have no idea what parts they may or may not have been missing, how long they were lepers, none of this. Yep, I think The Chosen is a man making a bunch of money the same way his father did, making up falsehoods about the Bible for a living.

It was his father, Jerry Jenkins, who co-wrote the Left Behind series, in which among other things, a man who had received the mark of the beast was forgiven and saved, the mark removed. That is deadly error.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so they say.

I've said what I can say.

Much love!

Oh so this is really all about you want to trash The Chosen. That's in poor taste. Some like it some dont, so what? I understand that no show that man makes is perfect, however, if you ask me, they did a good job of capturing Jesus's character.

Agree to disagree or go trash the TV show somewhere else, that's weird. You almost sound like a gossipy ol' lady, lol! AH-Ha!!! I found a mistake! So???

But did you read the passage? Did you even click either link to the two definitions which explains it exactly? It wasnt healed healed, it was two different words, go read and see for yourself!

 

[ScottA]

Maybe some, lol. See they were saying this awhile back, that we're in some sort of Matrix type of thing where reality has been pulled over peoples eyes to blind them and that the reality is spiritual. If we can't step out of her (the world) then we wont be able to see reality. And spiritually speaking, this is what scripture says, That we are to look to the unseen and to Believe. So, seeing isn't believing, Believing is seeing firstly. How hard is it to believe in something that you can't see? Pretty tough for most people. They want objective measurable proof that they can take in to a lab and recreate it to prove it. But that's not how God set it up, He wants us to Believe and have faith.

What would happen if after it's all over and everyone was sitting around heaven and we found out that nothing terrible ever happened on earth? No one was ever raped, murdered, stolen from or anything else that ever happened to them, because it was sort of dream or vision just to test our reactions? I dunno?

Scripture does say that, even now, we are seated with Him in Heavenly places, right? I doubt that we're in a vat of goo like in the Matrix, that's just Hollywood, they always gotta have goo, Lol! Some sort of heavenly class where we were put to sleep and had a bad dream intentionally. I have heard the term that the Earth is God's University of Brotherly Love, where we learn to Love. But putting on my thinking cap, doesn't that also mean that we would have to learn about hate at the same time, in order to understand Love? So that is what we're doing here? If you were created in heaven and only ever lived there in God's presence, everything would be good all the time. (So what did the Father mean when He said I love you? What is Love?

But we can't see Love with our eyes. So to find Love we must first Believe in Love and draw near it, best we can...and that is when God will draw near to us and do a favor/blessing/grace/miracle for us as a reward for trying to find Him, and He does that out of Love for us and compassion. And we have a clue of being able to understand Love now!

So Belief is the Code simply means drawing closer to our Lord and walking with Him (through the valley of the shadow of death!)

I *Think*....

Referring to some near death, you may have heard the saying, "they saw their whole life flash before their eyes." From this fallen world, that is actually upside down or opposite of what is true. On the contrary, this life is the fulfillment of "In the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die."

How?

God.

Only God could do such a thing. Which is, He has made manifest His "image" in death, in whom we are a part. An actual "image" in 3D. Which yes, accomplishes many things...which He has explained:

1. It "divides the light from the darkness" (good from evil).
2. Gives us firsthand experience of "knowing good and evil."
3. Keeps heaven holy, and "destroys the elements" of evil for eternity.
4. And more. Much more.

Which, like those who made the Law their reality, those who make all this their reality--even within the Church--are simply so immersed, they have put down roots like stool pigeons (police informers) for Satan. Unfortunately, many--even here--would simply rather submit than to keep gasping for air.

But those who have ears to hear, let them hear.

 

[MA2444]

It's not Bible. I do not take well to people ripping off the Bible to weave their own story with it, and look at you, hook line and sinker, sorry to be blunt!

Oh yeah? Hook line and sinker? Moi? Huh. Can you explain to the danger I am by having "been deceived" in that way?

I just read it, and two things happened, it says so. Look at it.!

Luke 17:11-19
11 And it came to pass, as he went to Jerusalem, that he passed through the midst of Samaria and Galilee.

12 And as he entered into a certain village, there met him ten men that were lepers, which stood afar off:

13 And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.

14 And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed.

15 And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God,

16 And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.

17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?

18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.

19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

It's all there if you can read.

 

[ScottA]

Or did you want a scientific answer? Well, I'm no scientist but here goes.

Have you ever heard of the Double Slit Experiment? Search for the videos on it on YouBoob. They took and cut two slits in a flat thing and then shot light protons at it to see which protons went through which slits, and to see the resulting pattern on a screen in back of it. I think it was a wave pattern that it made on the screen but they still couldn't tell which slit the light protons went through. So they set up a special camera and filmed it to watch and when they did that, they did not get a wave pattern on the screen, they got an interference pattern instead, and they only difference in the experiment was they added a camera. So the conclusion was that matter changes from simple observation. This is huge. It indicates that we could be in a simulation.

So in theory when you close your bedroom door and leave, the bed & other furniture are not in there anymore because the process of observation has been ceased. Now when you return to your bedroom and walk through your door, you are expecting to see a bed and furniture, and my keys better still be on the nightstand, lol. But we are the important factor. Our very thoughts generate signals so the projection can begin? And tada, you have a bed.

In June 2005 Scientific American wrote an article which said the constants are different at times than at other times. Maybe their changing? Maybe they fluctuate according to intent or emotional state? I dunno. But their conclusion was that there are at least 11 Dimensions and only 4 are measurable (?) so they must conclude that our material reality o earth is but a shadow of a larger reality that is spiritual in nature. (That's what scripture has been saying all along!)

So that's the big Lie then, that, Earth's Alien visitors are from another star system. They are not extraterrestrials, they are hyper-dimensional spiritual beings, Demonic in nature.

How's that. Science and the Bible are beginning to come together in some aspects I think.

Hahahaha

That would explain stubbing your toe on the bedpost when returning in the dark!

 

[ScottA]

Didnt you contradict yourself here? We know that we have free will and are here to bring glory to the Lord and obey Him. And with free will, that means, you have not because you ask not. And if in the tongue is the power of life and death, and we must choose, so we would be the Captain of our reality. Right? God doesnt want to force Himself on anyone and we must seek Him, and with all our heart, strength and mind.

So is that why we talk to our plants? Do they really grow better if you talk nice to them? That's fairly well established that it does work. In the OT they used to speak to the land.

If the power of life and death is in the tongue, then so wouldn't be a part of creating? I suspect that we might be creating our own reality (within God). That's how it works on earth. I had a conversation with a nice lady once and because I talked to her, she sold me a $5000 truck for $1500 bucks! Only 500 down and work the rest off! (she was a customer that owns rental property). If I hadnt opened my mouth and spoke, the truck would not have manifested for me!

Wasnt it Paul that said pray unceasingly? With the power of life & death in the tongue it seems to be little wonder that prayer works in faith, and faith is the substance of things unseen, so when we pray, we dont see it but things happen in the spiritual realm and on earth!

Be careful how you choose on this one. No, we don't create.

Interestingly, last year, I hastily transplanted a couple of manzanita. I felt moved, strangely, as I never had before, to speak a blessing over these plants. I did so, thinking this was maybe from the Spirit, and I spoke a blessing with faith. I knew it would be a miracle if these plants survived, considering I wouldn't be back for a couple of months. But I had a happy anticipation that they would make it. And what do you know, when I was back, they were dead. Completely dried out.

We appeal to our Father, and He determines these things. It's not your power.

Much love!

The question here, is: What is the world?

Many things occur, the mechanics of which are seemingly from God, or often from us--like bad choices, etc. But that does not speak to what he world actually is, but rather what we ourselves consider it to be.

But God has done something greater.

In His reality, God has made the world a manifestation of EVERYTHING EVERYONE EVER BELEIVED. Meaning, yes there is freewill, but also, there is ordination by God. But the fruit tells the tale...which is "life and death, blessing and cursing", from which many perish.

 

[marks]

The question here, is: What is the world?

The context in which we live. No matter what the origin, composition, it's all solid to us, it's all maleable to God.

Much love!

 

[ScottA]

The context in which we live. No matter what the origin, composition, it's all solid to us, it's all maleable to God.

Much love!

Indeed, that is the result of what the world is. I was referring more to the origin of the world, which is rather one of intent or will...from whence it comes, as it were. Which, yes, does all come from God. But in terms of "will", there is the will of God, and also the will of men at work in the world. And this is what makes the world what it is:

That by the will of God, the will of God and men should be made manifest before the Judgement.​

 

[MA2444]

The context in which we live. No matter what the origin, composition, it's all solid to us, it's all maleable to God.

Much love!

But doesnt the Lord say look to the unseen, be not conformed to the (material) world? So our reality is not where we can see it, yet we have to live here and deal with it every day but on a spiritual level and not on a material level and that may sound confusing or even wrong, but is it really? In practice I have found that it is not so hard of a thing to do.

 

[MA2444]

Referring to some near death, you may have heard the saying, "they saw their whole life flash before their eyes." From this fallen world, that is actually upside down or opposite of what is true. On the contrary, this life is the fulfillment of "In the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die."

How?

It was a spiritual death when man fell. I think our spirit used to ride on the outside of our body and they prolly glowed and the light covered them. Then after they fell their spirit died and they did not glow anymore and were not covered, so they seen that they were naked so sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves.

So everyone now is born spiritually dead. We have to accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and repent and ask forgiveness, then they get born again and our fight begins with the spirit and the soul. And we have to make the decisions in our mind about who gets to decide this issue, the spirit or the soul (carnal man) and let them dictate what actions we take in our flesh body. This is what's meant by overcoming the flesh. When we can let our spirit decide what actions the body takes then we call that, being led by the spirit.

That sounds right.

 

[soberxp]

If you're talking about a double-slit interference experiment, the only conclusion of the experiment is that the workings of the world have nothing to do with our observation, it's all the will of God, Beginning or ending. God likens himself to light. In this experiment, light works of its own will, no matter how we observe it, The beginning and the end are not changed by our will. I'm the beginning and I'm the end, just like he said. I am who I am.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

the workings of the world have nothing to do with our observation, it's all the will of God

Does this mean that God causes all bad things like rape, murder, etc, etc like the calvinists and muzliums believe?

They think when a little child is raped by a pervert... God causes the pervert to do the dastardly deed

 

[MA2444]

If you're talking about a double-slit interference experiment, the only conclusion of the experiment is that the workings of the world have nothing to do with our observation, it's all the will of God, Beginning or ending. God likens himself to light. In this experiment, light works of its own will, no matter how we observe it, The beginning and the end are not changed by our will. I'm the beginning and I'm the end, just like he said. I am who I am.

I think you have to watch the double slit experiement video again, because their results was if a camera was on then they got an interference pattern and if the camera was off then they got a wave pattern, so observation had everything to do with it.

I dont think light has it's own will? I think it does what God tells it to!

 

[MA2444]

If you're talking about a double-slit interference experiment, the only conclusion of the experiment is that the workings of the world have nothing to do with our observation, it's all the will of God, Beginning or ending. God likens himself to light. In this experiment, light works of its own will, no matter how we observe it, The beginning and the end are not changed by our will. I'm the beginning and I'm the end, just like he said. I am who I am.

It has to be. Remember that the Lord looks at our heart and intentions and if our intentions are for, someone to be healed, or save their life, it happens every day. A mom gets into an auto accident and her child is pinned under the care, she's not even a Believer and there is no one there to help save her son. So she focuses her intentions to try to lift the car, save my son save my son, she lifts the car up and saves her son. She didn't know how to pray, but our Lord has Compassion on His people and God might be able to let her lift the car to encourage her to turn to God...So God does it. We've all heard those stories, right?

Her heart and her intentions were on her son and she certainly loves her son and is in a state of anguish, and the Lord is standing there looking at her heart, so God grants her enough power to save the boy! God does stuff like that.

So, our will and our heart can affect the material world What does scripture say? You have not because you ask not. It takes our will to ask the Lord for anything. Even non believers God is looking at their heart and intentions, and the Lord loves them both! So he has mercy and compassion and saves them. Scripture says that whatever we pray for if it is within God's will then He will answer that prayer. You have not because you ask not.

 

[MA2444]

Does this mean that God causes all bad things like rape, murder, etc, etc like the calvinists and muzliums believe?

They think when a little child is raped by a pervert... God causes the pervert to do the dastardly deed

As I understand it, it is the evil spirits enticing the people to do bad things and once people start doing bad things, it gets to be a habit and an addiction and then the evil spirits stronghold is strengthened. So, in short, God doesnt cause it, He may allow it as we see in Job as a test for us, the Lord can take something bad and turn it around into something good. That's scripture.

It also sort of agrees with the simulation theory that they have. Scripture says, even now we are seated in Heavenly places with the Lord. And we are having this dream/God simulation while there and it's not real? But it seems real?

That lines right up with the Matrix movie! Except, I bet we aint in a vat of Goo up there! We're seated somewhere with Jesus! and so the evil things that we are dreaming seem extra real to us? (Why did that happen to me?!), just a test, we have make a decision on how to handle it. and either choose God's way or the evil way, or chicken out? But that is the statement that is repeated thru scripture more than any other phrase! (Fear not, I have not given you a spirit of fear, yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear nothing?

Where's Goliath at? I'll take him out. (With the Lord!). Maybe David knew these things? David made the decision to walk out onto that field and say, I will fight you for my Lord and my people....(and Won!) and God said, whoa I like this one, he is man after my own heart!

I was praying one time and talking to the Lord and I asked him why is all the suffering necessary? And He answered me right away and said, because some things can't be taught, they must be experienced to understand them and learn.../

Whoa. does that makes sense to you? It does me!