Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

[rebuilder 454]

White horses don't cast the beast into the lake of fire.

White horses don't raise the dead.

White horses are irrelevant.

You should go and learn who raises the dead and who casts the beast into the lake of fire.

Never believed that or said it.
Try and answer sensibly

Ok I get it.i reread your post.
You can not honestly debate me, so you go comic.

 

[tailgator]

Never believed that or said it.
Try and answer sensibly

Ok I get it.i reread your post.
You can not honestly debate me, so you go comic.

Debate about horses?
That's pure horse____.

Since you obviously don't know ,it's the Lord that raises the dead and it's the Lord who casts the beast into the lake of fire.Both take place at the Lords coming.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Debate about horses?
That's pure horse____.

Since you obviously don't know ,it's the Lord that raises the dead and it's the Lord who casts the beast into the lake of fire.Both take place at the Lords coming.

The white horses are a COMPONENT of the second coming.
Your false observation had me supposedly saying the white horses are some main players doing all kinds of things is beyond silly.
I can call it the white horse coming in the face of other views that have the second coming in settings where those horses DO NOT FIT.
So yes I can correctly call it the white horse coming in that: 1) millions of horses blacken the sky at the second coming.
2) Horses can't honestly be ignored at the "white horse coming OF JESUS WITH HIS ELECT on white horses"

There us no debate over whether or not white horses are a component of the second coming.
The debate you can not enter into is an honest second coming or rapture debate...as you continue to center on baloney that is off topic and centers on what I never said.

 

[tailgator]

The white horses are a COMPONENT of the second coming.
Your false observation had me supposedly saying the white horses are some main players doing all kinds of things is beyond silly.
I can call it the white horse coming in the face of other views that have the second coming in settings where those horses DO NOT FIT.
So yes I can correctly call it the white horse coming in that: 1) millions of horses blacken the sky at the second coming.
2) Horses can't honestly be ignored at the "white horse coming OF JESUS WITH HIS ELECT on white horses"

There us no debate over whether or not white horses are a component of the second coming.
The debate you can not enter into is an honest second coming or rapture debate...as you continue to center on baloney that is off topic and centers on what I never said.

White horses are irrelevant to the discussion.

As the Lord had said .let the wheat and tares dwell together till the end.Then he will command his angels to gather the tares first and bind them in bundles to be burned
Then the wheat will be gathered into his barn.


You planning on being gathered first?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The white horses are a COMPONENT of the second coming.
Your false observation had me supposedly saying the white horses are some main players doing all kinds of things is beyond silly.
I can call it the white horse coming in the face of other views that have the second coming in settings where those horses DO NOT FIT.
So yes I can correctly call it the white horse coming in that: 1) millions of horses blacken the sky at the second coming.
2) Horses can't honestly be ignored at the "white horse coming OF JESUS WITH HIS ELECT on white horses"

There us no debate over whether or not white horses are a component of the second coming.
The debate you can not enter into is an honest second coming or rapture debate...as you continue to center on baloney that is off topic and centers on what I never said.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

I see that you take the reference to white horses literally. Do you take the reference to white and clean fine linen literally, too? You shouldn't since earlier in the chapter it is shown that the fine linen is not literal but rather symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints".

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So, if the fine linen that those who belong to Christ are wearing is not literal and instead symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints", then why take the white horses literally? Do you take the sword that comes out of Jesus's mouth literally, too?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

I see that you take the reference to white horses literally. Do you take the reference to white and clean fine linen literally, too? You shouldn't since earlier in the chapter it is shown that the fine linen is not literal but rather symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints".

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So, if the fine linen that those who belong to Christ are wearing is not literal and instead symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints", then why take the white horses literally? Do you take the sword that comes out of Jesus's mouth literally, too?

They have white garments and are on horses as is Jesus.
They are real.

 

[rebuilder 454]

White horses are irrelevant to the discussion.

As the Lord had said .let the wheat and tares dwell together till the end.Then he will command his angels to gather the tares first and bind them in bundles to be burned
Then the wheat will be gathered into his barn.


You planning on being gathered first?

There is another verse that states the wheat is gathered first.
Sorry to shed light on a interpretation of the ones left behind that man has changed and you bought it.
Who are the ones left behind that you are referring to?

 

[rebuilder 454]

White horses are irrelevant to the discussion.

As the Lord had said .let the wheat and tares dwell together till the end.Then he will command his angels to gather the tares first and bind them in bundles to be burned
Then the wheat will be gathered into his barn.


You planning on being gathered first?

It is a simple observation that you seem to stumble over, and get all confused about.
It's like if I say, "the sermon on the mount",and you get all flustered, and say, "mountains don't talk to anybody and mountains are irrelevant to the discussion".

Calm down. The second coming in Rev is on millions of horses.

Your forbiddance of observations is plain crazy.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

I see that you take the reference to white horses literally. Do you take the reference to white and clean fine linen literally, too? You shouldn't since earlier in the chapter it is shown that the fine linen is not literal but rather symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints".

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So, if the fine linen that those who belong to Christ are wearing is not literal and instead symbolically represents "the righteousness of saints", then why take the white horses literally? Do you take the sword that comes out of Jesus's mouth literally, too?

It is like you forbid something literal and symbolic at the same time.

 

[rebuilder 454]

White horses are irrelevant to the discussion.

As the Lord had said .let the wheat and tares dwell together till the end.Then he will command his angels to gather the tares first and bind them in bundles to be burned
Then the wheat will be gathered into his barn.


You planning on being gathered first?

Since there is another verse that says the wheat are gathered first, I would just imagine that confusion would be extremely difficult for you to deal with.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Here is a post tribber bonus for free.

the tares that are gathered and burned is called the Lake of fire, which is after the millennium.

I don't know if post tribbers realize "gathered and burned" Is the lake a fire

Whew... so many things they have upside down.

 

[tailgator]

There is another verse that states the wheat is gathered first.
Sorry to shed light on a interpretation of the ones left behind that man has changed and you bought it.
Who are the ones left behind that you are referring to?

I've not seen a verse where the wheat are gathered first.Just the tares.

Mathew 13
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


Now are you saying you will be gathered before the harvest which is not biblical or you will be gathered first?

 

[tailgator]

It is a simple observation that you seem to stumble over, and get all confused about.
It's like if I say, "the sermon on the mount",and you get all flustered, and say, "mountains don't talk to anybody and mountains are irrelevant to the discussion".

Calm down. The second coming in Rev is on millions of horses.

Your forbiddance of observations is plain crazy.

Mountains don't talk.
But the people in judea will say to the mountains "fall on us".

 

[tailgator]

Since there is another verse that says the wheat are gathered first, I would just imagine that confusion would be extremely difficult for you to deal with.

Ive not seen a verse say the sheat is gathered before the tares.
Mathew 13
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

[MA2444]

Mountains don't talk.

Maybe we just dont know their language?

No wonder you cant talk Mountain yet, you cant even talk Tree!

Scripture says that all of creation Praises God. So they do talk, but carnal man gets in the way of understanding. (They dont talk!!).

If you like cience then you'd be interested to know that everything in the known Universe talks. We record it by measureing the frequencies that the particular item resonates at. There's a lot to it but the gist of it is...Yes, Mountains can talk!

Lol. Sheesh they have recordings of different stars and the sounds they make on youboob.

 

[tailgator]

Maybe we just dont know their language?

No wonder you cant talk Mountain yet, you cant even talk Tree!

Scripture says that all of creation Praises God. So they do talk, but carnal man gets in the way of understanding. (They dont talk!!).

If you like cience then you'd be interested to know that everything in the known Universe talks. We record it by measureing the frequencies that the particular item resonates at. There's a lot to it but the gist of it is...Yes, Mountains can talk!

Lol. Sheesh they have recordings of different stars and the sounds they make on youboob.

Well,you can listen for trees and mountains to talk if you want .You can even talk back to them.I once watched a movie called one flew over the cuckoos nest.I think their may have been a tree talker on there.

 

[MA2444]

Well,you can listen for trees and mountains to talk if you want .You can even talk back to them.I once watched a movie called one flew over the cuckoos nest.I think their may have been a tree talker on there.

Ok you got me on that one. I have talked to my tree.

But surely your not suggesting that I made it up, that you shouldn't talk to your plants?

I heard that from others long ago when I was a kid, talk to your plants and then they grow better! And I'm just that kind of guy who says oh yeah, I'll try that. Men have spoken to plants and even the land itself, for 1000's of years.

Would you like to hear a testimony about when I was talking to my Tomato plants, and they started dancing for me in appreciation?

So it's not a case of one flew over the cukoos nest but rather along the lines of, once upon a time there was a blind man who could not see or hear...and many other people. A lot of it is scriptural. Would you rather see some verses on it?

 

[The Light]

The 42 months the two witnesses occupy Israel is the 42 months reign of the beast.

At the end of the 42 months,the two witnesses are killed and lay dead for 3.5 days .Then the seventh Trump sounds and the dead are raised.The kingdom of this world becomes Christs.

That's the end of the tribulation.

This is not correct.

The tribulation is over at the 6th seal.

It is the 7th seal one year wrath of God that is over when the 7th trumpet sounds.

You are confusing Christians being hunted and killed which is the tribulation with God's wrath which is the vengeance of God.

 

[MA2444]

Maybe you don't believe that water responds to human speech also? It's been tested and you can even do the test yourself at home.

Exploring the Water Experiments of Masaru Emoto – WaterTemple

Masuru Emoto did a bunch of expeirements with water from different sources and would seperate samoles in multiple storage vessels and speak nice to one and harshly to the other one and then freeze the water and examine the ice crystals that the water made microscopically and the water he talked nice to made beautiful crystals, and the one he spoke harshly to made ugly crystals.

And scripture says, In the Tongue is the power of life and death and this is on account of who we are and have been Created by!

So could you be having an identity crises and not know who you are in Christ?

 

[The Light]

Rev 14:14 is one return, but not the second coming.
Got that out of the bible.

Rev 14:14 is the second coming. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All return to heaven for the marriage supper.

After the marriage supper the armies of heaven return on white horses. Biblical FACT.