Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

[Davy]

Here's a Bible prophecy that not that many of my Christian brethren are aware of, and that Christ's enemies that do know about it especially hate it.


1. GOD Himself has a BIRTHRIGHT given to His chosen.

2. That Birthright from God includes especially the 'care' of The Gospel of Jesus Christ, ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABRAHAM whom God first gave it through (Galatians 3; Romans 4).

3. God's Birthright eventually wound upon Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, where it still exists today with them.

4. God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms in Solomon's day, and then scattered the ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", with God having put one of the tribe of EPHRAIM as king over it.

5. Because the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" or "house of Israel" rebelled against God, He then scattered them among the Gentiles, like He promised He would do to His chosen if they ever rebelled against Him (Deut.4).

6. The ten tribes became LOST to themselves, and to the Jews of the "house of Judah" (3 tribes).

7. Per God's prophet Hosea, God scattered the ten tribes to NEW LANDS, and let them have the full BAAL idol worship they left Him for. This especially happened in the WESTERN NATIONS OF HISTORY with all the false idol worship in ancient Greece, ancient Rome, ancient Scandinavia, ancient Britain, etc.

8. Then when it was time, God gave the scattered ten tribes a NEW COVENANT, and He would no longer call them 'not My people', but instead as the sons of the living God. THIS... was fulfilled when The Gospel of Jesus Christ was preached to the Western nations of history, in Europe and Asia Minor. Great Britain was first to accept The Gospel on a national level, becoming the first Christian nation of history, IN THE WEST!

9. Other western nations soon began to follow suit with putting away their old Baal idols and instead turning to The Gospel of Jesus Christ, IN THE WESTERN NATIONS.

10. And ever since then, the devil and his children have been trying to destroy the WESTERN CHRISTIAN NATIONS. The Leftist ex-President Barack Obama even claimed the United States of America was never... a Christian nation! That is how deep some Americans have sunk to in not knowing their Bible, nor the Christian history of The United States of America or the Western Christian nations!

11. Likewise, when God Himself caused creation of the WESTERN CHRISTIAN NATIONS through The Gospel of Jesus Christ, He also moved David's throne to the West, where it STILL is to this day! That throne is part of God's Birthright to the tribe of Judah, of the house of David. That is what the thrones of European history represent, i.e., the house of David. This is why Ireland's flag has the Harp of David on it, because Ireland was the first land that received the re-location of the Jacob's Pillar Stone of which the Irish kings were coronated upon, just as king David was! (called the Lia Fail stone, or Stone of Destiny). Even Queen Elizabeth II in 1953 was coronated sitting in Edward's Chair at Westminster Abbey with the Jacob's Pillar Stone right underneath her seat in that Chair. And she was anointed with oil just like king David, and all the kings and queens of Europe have been.

12. The BREACH was healed long ago with God's founding of the WESTERN CHRISTIAN NATIONS. Both Judah and Ephraim are together upon Christian thrones as one in the Christian West. And the devil and his children hate it! THIS... is what the attack upon the western Christian nations has been about throughout their history, with WWII being one of the largest attempts to destroy those thrones along with the Christian nations of history. The eastern European nations that the Soviet Communists were given post-WWII were originally CHRISTIAN NATIONS with Christian kings and queens upon thrones! With the creation of the European Union, the devil has still been at it trying to destroy the European Christian nations and the throne of David there. God is not going to let that happen.

Time to get on board Christian brethren, and drive the money-changers out of God's House, because per ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen and even the 1960's Soviet KGB colonel Anatoliy Golyitsn that defected to the U.S., the Communists have in their strategy to corrupt what is taught in the Christian Churches!

 

[tailgator]

There is no reason for anyone to place a nuke in Jerusalem as delivery systems can target any point on earth.

What verses are you referring to that indicates the saints are killed 42 months before the great tribulation begins?

The saints being killed a time,times and a half before the great tribulation is found in Daniel 11 before the great tribulation in Daniel 12.

 

[tailgator]

No, it is you... that is completely ignorant of the Daniel Scripture, and prophecy in God's written Word about the very end of this world. And I think it is because you are attending the WRONG KIND OF CHURCH, if you go to Church at all (which either way, I don't care).

ANY... Church or preacher that thinks the United States of America, or 'any' western European country represents Christ's enemy doesn't know much about their Bible as written.

This because the western nations accepted The Gospel of Jesus Christ after the Passion of Christ, while most nations outside the West instead did not, and most of them still do not accept Jesus Christ today, INCLUDING the nation state called Israel in the middle east today!

As I said Daniel wrote that the armed forces set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem

And the reason the United states nuke Jerusalem is because it is Israel policy that Jerusalem gets nuked.It takes place 3.5 days after Israels enemies have captured Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping all the Jewish women in Jerusalem.

 

[tailgator]

You were referring to the deaths of them who come up against Jerusalem in Zechariah 14. Their deaths will be by Jesus speaking their deaths with something like.... "Die ! ".

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

No.Jesus is not killing all the men women and children in Jerusalem.The abomination that makes Jerusalem desolate does that.

 

[Douggg]

The saints being killed a time,times and a half before the great tribulation is found in Daniel 11 before the great tribulation in Daniel 12.

What specific verses in Daniel 11 ? And what specific verses in Daniel 12 ?

 

[Douggg]

No.Jesus is not killing all the men women and children in Jerusalem.The abomination that makes Jerusalem desolate does that.

There will be no nuclear explosion going off in Jerusalem. If there were, there would be nothing for Jesus to come back to.

In Revelation 19:21 and Zechariah 14:12, Jesus is going execute judgment on the armies that will have come up against Jerusalem.

 

[tailgator]

What specific verses in Daniel 11 ? And what specific verses in Daniel 12 ?

If you have to ask then you need to study the Bible more.

 

[tailgator]

There will be no nuclear explosion going off in Jerusalem. If there were, there would be nothing for Jesus to come back to.

In Revelation 19:21 and Zechariah 14:12, Jesus is going execute judgment on the armies that will have come up against Jerusalem.

So you believe a nuclear weapon removes the earth from earth?

If that were the case,then why is there still such a place as Hiroshima?


Yes,a nuke will be in Jerusalem along with about every city from Iran to Egypt.

 

[tailgator]

There will be no nuclear explosion going off in Jerusalem. If there were, there would be nothing for Jesus to come back to.

In Revelation 19:21 and Zechariah 14:12, Jesus is going execute judgment on the armies that will have come up against Jerusalem.

Tell me Doug.
What did Jesus say causes the earthquake in Jerusalem?
The earthquake,pestilence and great fearful signs in the heavens?

What did Jesus say causes those?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There will be no nuclear explosion going off in Jerusalem. If there were, there would be nothing for Jesus to come back to.

In Revelation 19:21 and Zechariah 14:12, Jesus is going execute judgment on the armies that will have come up against Jerusalem.

Did you not read verses 17 and 18 in Revelation 19? And have you never read 2nd Thessalonians 1:7-10? He will be executing judgment on more than just the armies. He will be executing judgment on all unbelievers.

Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

2 Thessalonians 1:7 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

 

[Douggg]

So you believe a nuclear weapon removes the earth from earth?

If that were the case,then why is there still such a place as Hiroshima?

Hiroshima was destroyed. And was not rebuilt until years later.

Yes,a nuke will be in Jerusalem along with about every city from Iran to Egypt.

The radiation fall out would make the area uninhabitable for years

If you have to ask then you need to study the Bible more.

Just list the verses in Daniel 11 and in Daniel 12 that your claims are based on.

Tell me Doug.
What did Jesus say causes the earthquake in Jerusalem?
The earthquake,pestilence and great fearful signs in the heavens?

What did Jesus say causes those?

Obviously, by God's power.

 

[tailgator]

Hiroshima was destroyed. And was not rebuilt until years later.


The radiation fall out would make the area uninhabitable for years


Just list the verses in Daniel 11 and in Daniel 12 that your claims are based on.


Obviously, by God's power.

False

Radiation does not even effect immortals.
Immortals can live anywhere .

 

[Davy]

As I said Daniel wrote that the armed forces set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem

No, Lord Jesus gave an update to that Daniel 11:31 event...

Matt 24:15
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
KJV

Mark 13:14
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
KJV

That is about an IDOL abomination.

The "vile person" of Daniel 11 comes in peacefully and obtains the role of king in Jerusalem using flatteries, NOT USING AN ARMY. But when he becomes king in JERUSALEM, then he will have an army of course. Focus should be HOW does he become a 'king' in JERUSALEM, over "the kingdom", since that is pointing to the JEWS anointing him as their 'king'...

Dan 11:21-25
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
KJV

That "vile person" (as the final Antichrist at the end of this world), will be made 'king' in Jerusalem by that "SMALL PEOPLE" of verse 23. Those represent the hidden "tares" among Judah in JERUSALEM that work for the devil, and are in high positions of power there. They will anoint that "vile person" as THE MESSIAH of Old Testament prophecy.

The IDOL abomination the "vile person" will setup in a NEW 3rd TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM, built by the orthodox Jews at the end of this world, will be about the following...

Rev 13:13-15
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
KJV

So you need to UPDATE your understanding of that STILL FUTURE EVENT IN JERUSALEM per The New Testament Bible Scripture, and quit listening to FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan"!

 

[Davy]

And the reason the United states nuke Jerusalem is because it is Israel policy that Jerusalem gets nuked.It takes place 3.5 days after Israels enemies have captured Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping all the Jewish women in Jerusalem.

Nah... you just MADE THAT UP. It is NOT U.S. policy to nuke the nation state of Israel.

So what are you really? Are you a follower of ISLAM? for one who hates Jews and Christians would say something crazy like that about U.S. nuke policy.

I served in the USAF as a crew chief on B-52 bombers during the Vietnam war, and I can testify that the ONLY way the U.S. would use nukes in Israel would be in order to PROTECT ISRAEL from invasion by RADICAL ISLAMIC NATIONS, like what happened in the short 1973 war when the Arabs invaded Israel with their Soviet built tanks, and almost overwhelmed the Israelis.

 

[tailgator]

No, Lord Jesus gave an update to that Daniel 11:31 event...

Matt 24:15
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
KJV

Mark 13:14
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
KJV

That is about an IDOL abomination.

The "vile person" of Daniel 11 comes in peacefully and obtains the role of king in Jerusalem using flatteries, NOT USING AN ARMY. But when he becomes king in JERUSALEM, then he will have an army of course. Focus should be HOW does he become a 'king' in JERUSALEM, over "the kingdom", since that is pointing to the JEWS anointing him as their 'king'...

Dan 11:21-25
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
KJV

That "vile person" (as the final Antichrist at the end of this world), will be made 'king' in Jerusalem by that "SMALL PEOPLE" of verse 23. Those represent the hidden "tares" among Judah in JERUSALEM that work for the devil, and are in high positions of power there. They will anoint that "vile person" as THE MESSIAH of Old Testament prophecy.

The IDOL abomination the "vile person" will setup in a NEW 3rd TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM, built by the orthodox Jews at the end of this world, will be about the following...

Rev 13:13-15
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
KJV

So you need to UPDATE your understanding of that STILL FUTURE EVENT IN JERUSALEM per The New Testament Bible Scripture, and quit listening to FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan"!

Jesus said the abomination that causes desolation has not been set up in Jerusalem yet as Jason of Cyrene had claimed and all antichrist Jews believe.

Daniel 11:31 has not been fulfilled yet.
As I said .
The United states armed forces will set up the abomination that causes Jerusalem's desolation .


Daniel 11:31
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.



As I said time and time again Daniel 11:31 has not been fulfilled.The United states armed forces will set up the abomination that causes Jerusalem desolation.They set it up on the day of the Lord 1290 days after the daily sacrifice is abolished.The United states armed forces destroy all of the middle east on that day causing the greatest tribulation the world has ever seen.


That's what happens when you elect a man like Donald Trump..He is not afraid to use as many nuclear warheads as he needs to kill as many muslims as he wants.


Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.

 

[tailgator]

Nah... you just MADE THAT UP. It is NOT U.S. policy to nuke the nation state of Israel.

So what are you really? Are you a follower of ISLAM? for one who hates Jews and Christians would say something crazy like that about U.S. nuke policy.

I served in the USAF as a crew chief on B-52 bombers during the Vietnam war, and I can testify that the ONLY way the U.S. would use nukes in Israel would be in order to PROTECT ISRAEL from invasion by RADICAL ISLAMIC NATIONS, like what happened in the short 1973 war when the Arabs invaded Israel with their Soviet built tanks, and almost overwhelmed the Israelis.

Is there something wrong with your reading comprehension?

I said it is Israel's policy that Israel should be nuked along with all the countries that have invaded it and overcome it.Do you not understand this simple policy of self annihilation?​

 

[The Light]

No, it does not.


The end times abomination of desolation that is in Daniel 12:11-12 was prefigured as being a statue image
by what Antiochus IV's troops did in Daniel 11:31 when they placed a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

On a side note, Zeus is Baal is Nimrod.

 

[Douggg]

On a side note, Zeus is Baal is Nimrod.

I think Nimrod was an actual person. Differently, Zeus and Baal were made-up false gods.

 

[Douggg]

Is there something wrong with your reading comprehension?

I said it is Israel's policy that Israel should be nuked along with all the countries that have invaded it and overcome it.Do you not understand this simple policy of self annihilation?​

Israel does not a policy of self annihilation. The Samson Option is Israel using its nuclear weapons as a last resort against Israel adversaries to avoid a foreign takeover of Israel.

 

[tailgator]

Israel does not a policy of self annihilation. The Samson Option is Israel using its nuclear weapons as a last resort against Israel adversaries to avoid a foreign takeover of Israel.

Samson destroyed himself when he destroyed his enemies .The Samson option requires the land of Israel to be nuked as well as the lands of its enemies.
israel's enemies that overcome Israel are in the land of Israel when they are destroyed . Israel's enemies are in Jerusalem when they are consumed.