The 6th seal great tribulation

[Rockerduck]

Revelation is all symbolism. Only the Holy Spirit can interpret a prophetic dream/vision. Then it makes sense. It is not in Chronological order of events. John writes in the future, then present in the next verse, then past or the reverse of that.

 

[tailgator]

People just can not seem to comprehend the reason the United States armed forces place the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem.

It's Israel policy that it be set up there.

 

[tailgator]

the USA is not the only one with Nukes and their nukes will bring as much death those of the USA.

The Beast is the Antichrist (Man of sin), the Dragon is Satan. The beast will live on until
3.5 years into Daniel's 70th week at which time it appears He will receive a Head and arm wound. He will raised (or appear to be dead) up by Satan and his body taken over thus the 'son of perdition'.

The beast recieved a deadly wound nearly 2000 years ago and has already been healed.Wake up and smell the coffee.

People from all nations have been following after the beast for decades now .
He was talking about giving them all implantable microchips a few years ago.

 

[Bladerunner]

Actually ,it's the king of the norths armed forces that set up the abomination that causes Jerusalem's desolation.Daniel was very clear that the armed forces do it .

Yet it is still Satan in the antiChrist's body that declares He is GOD on High. Look to Isa 28:14-18 The Armed Forces are NOT the cause of the Abomination of Desolate.

This is what happens to the people in Jerusalem when they put it there.

When they put what there?

Zech 14
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Has there been a time where the above has happened yet? NO... In ISA 28, the scourge overruns Jerusalem and tries to kill those that fled in the name of the Lord. See Rev. 12 where Jesus saves many of these people from a certain death. This appears to be prophecy aimed at the God/Magog event at the end of the millennium. They encircle the Holy City and God brings down Fire from heaven on them, consuming them all except Satan.

 

[Bladerunner]

Revelation is all symbolism. Only the Holy Spirit can interpret a prophetic dream/vision. Then it makes sense. It is not in Chronological order of events. John writes in the future, then present in the next verse, then past or the reverse of that.

Like the Pope did for Centuries????Jesus (God) tells you and me that to read and understand Revelation's Prophecy in Rev1:3....."Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." If you have ears, then Jesus is speaking directly to you.

 

[tailgator]

Yet it is still Satan in the antiChrist's body that declares He is GOD on High. Look to Isa 28:14-18 The Armed Forces are NOT the cause of the Abomination of Desolate.

When they put what there?

Has there been a time where the above has happened yet? NO... In ISA 28, the scourge overruns Jerusalem and tries to kill those that fled in the name of the Lord. See Rev. 12 where Jesus saves many of these people from a certain death. This appears to be prophecy aimed at the God/Magog event at the end of the millennium. They encircle the Holy City and God brings down Fire from heaven on them, consuming them all except Satan.

So you believe Daniel lied or simply doesn't know what he talking about when he wrote the armed forces set up the abomination that causes desolation?


Do you believe the entire book of Daniel is a lie or just that one verse?

 

[Bladerunner]

The beast recieved a deadly wound nearly 2000 years ago and has already been healed.Wake up and smell the coffee.

I will assume you are speaking of Nero..Killed himself with a knife to the throat? Nimrod also died by having His head cut off by Esau. We can do this all night...You want to call GOD's word Symbols when it is apparent God's wants us to read them as is.

People from all nations have been following after the beast for decades now .
He was talking about giving them all implantable microchips a few years ago.

Yes, they have been waiting for Him but He is not yet publically known. that is unless you know who it is? Really?????

 

[tailgator]

I will assume you are speaking of Nero..Killed himself with a knife to the throat? Nimrod also died by having His head cut off by Esau. We can do this all night...You want to call GOD's word Symbols when it is apparent God's wants us to read them as is.

Yes, they have been waiting for Him but He is not yet publically known. that is unless you know who it is? Really?????

You assume wrong.

 

[Bladerunner]

So you believe Daniel lied or simply doesn't know what he talking about when he wrote the armed forces set up the abomination that causes desolation?

No, I believe that the angel Gabriel gave Daniel the Truth as only He could...Daniel 9:27 and then Rev 1 to end.

Do you believe the entire book of Daniel is a lie or just that one verse?

I believe that God is the author of the entire bible and that He has protected it as He said He would for all generations. Don't know what you have been taught/heared about scripture but it is lacking.

 

[Bladerunner]

You assume wrong.

Ok, who is the beast (antichrist) 2000 years ago.

 

[tailgator]

No, I believe that the angel Gabriel gave Daniel the Truth as only He could...Daniel 9:27 and then Rev 1 to end.

I believe that God is the author of the entire bible and that He has protected it as He said He would for all generations. Don't know what you have been taught/heared about scripture but it is lacking.

Then you have a problem.
Daniel wrote the armed forces set up the abomination of desolation as I said

You are the one who doesn't know scripture and you are teaching falsehood by saying the armed forces do not set it up.

 

[tailgator]

Ok, who is the beast (antichrist) 2000 years ago.

The same beast Jesus told to its face that it would kill his apostles and prophets before it received a deadly wound

 

[Bladerunner]

Then you have a problem.
Daniel wrote the armed forces set up the abomination of desolation as I said\

If you think that Daniel 12:1 states that then you are wrong.

You are the one who doesn't know scripture and you are teaching falsehood by saying the armed forces do not set it up.

Shown us where He does this, scripturally.

 

[Jay Ross]

The Bowl/Vial Judgements begin at the middle (3.5 years from beginning) of Daniel's 70th week. None of the others have happened thus none of the Bowl/Vial judgements have or are happening at this time.

Wow, so what you are saying is that the Bowl judgements begin during the middle of Daniel's 70th week which is to happen in our distant future? Is the 70th week to happen over 1,000 years into our distant future, yes or no?

Was the Land of Babylon recognised in 1926 AD when both Brittian and France established the fourth segment of the Statue prophecy to be remembered before God?

Was not Jerusalem partitioned into three areas in 1948 to be controlled by Brittian, Jordan and the UN?

Both of these historical events have already happened yet Daniel's 70th week has not.

Which of the 10 kings are being gathered especially since 3 of them have to be removed first. None of Daniel's 70 has happened to date.

You are mixing various wicked heavenly hosts with people/kings, which is not what the scriptures tell us is so.

I agree that many are being distracted while Israel is still partially blinded by Jesus Christ. This will not stop until the 'fulfillment of the Gentiles', Last days of Daniel's 70th week.

It is my understanding that the fulfilment of the Gentiles will occur in around 20 years' time when Isaiah 24:21-22 will be fulfilled with the judgement of the Kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts after the completion of the Little Horn being given armies for 2,300 years to trample God's sanctuary and His earthly hosts as prophesied in Daniel 8.

The judgement of the kings of the earth will occur soon when the judged heavenly hosts, including Satan, and the judged kings of the earth are imprisoned for many days, nominally for 1,000 years, after which we will have Satan roaming the face of the earth with the armies he will gather from God and Magog on his journey towards Jerusalem where they will be slathered and the birds of the air and the beasts will come to have their fill on the slain armies at that time.

You present your understanding as if you do have understanding and yet you still have no understanding.

Shalom

 

[Rockerduck]

Like the Pope did for Centuries????Jesus (God) tells you and me that to read and understand Revelation's Prophecy in Rev1:3....."Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." If you have ears, then Jesus is speaking directly to you.

The Holy Spirit has shown me what most of the symbols mean. Its a puzzle, but understandable. If you can understand the prophetic puzzle, its easy and biblical. Jesus spoke parables so hearing they might not understand.
Mark 4:12 - so that ‘Seeing they may see and not perceive, And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them.

Jesus still speaks through the Holy Spirit, John 16:13, and Jesus still speaks in puzzles. Like Peter and the sheet with unclean animals. Acts 10:13, Peter didn't understand it at first, until at Cornelius's house.

 

[tailgator]

If you think that Daniel 12:1 states that then you are wrong.

Shown us where He does this, scripturally.

As I've said over and over again
Daniel plainly says the armed forces set up the abomination that causes desolation.

Daniel says the armed forces do two things.First they take away the daily sacrifice,
Then they set up the abomination that causes desolation.

"His armed forces"​

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Daniel 11:31​

His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.​

And you said they don't have anything to do with it.

 

[tailgator]

Having relatives in the norths armed forces,and fighting in the two previous wars,I know a little about those armed forces.I understand the alliance with the Israeli government and what the north would do to Israel's enemies after they rise up against Israel.Its not going to be a pleasant time when the United states destroys the middle east .

 

[Douggg]

As I've said over and over again
Daniel plainly says the armed forces set up the abomination that causes desolation.

Daniel says the armed forces do two things.First they take away the daily sacrifice,
Then they set up the abomination that causes desolation.

"His armed forces"​

​

Daniel 11:31​

His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.​

And you said they don't have anything to do with it.

You appear to be quoting from the NIV.

Daniel 11:31 is historic and was fulfilled when Antiochus IV set up a statue of Zeus in the temple.

Prior to that event, in Daniel 11:30, Antiochus IV was heading down to Egypt to depose the ruling king there.
But that king was under Roman protection and the Roman representative (the ships of Chittim) confronted Antiochus on his way.

At that confrontation, the Roman representative drew a line in the sand and told Antiochus if he crossed it and continued to Egypt - it would mean war against Rome to do so. Antiochus, not wanting to go to war against Rome, bitterly turned around and headed back. It was then in Daniel 11:31, that his troops took out their frustration by persecuting the Jews and setting up the statue of Zeus in the temple.

Daniel 11 does not start talking about the end times until Daniel 11:36. Daniel 11:35 is the transition verse to the end times.

Daniel 11:36 begins talking about the "time of the end" king.

 

[Bladerunner]

As I've said over and over again
Daniel plainly says the armed forces set up the abomination that causes desolation.

Daniel says the armed forces do two things.First they take away the daily sacrifice,
Then they set up the abomination that causes desolation.

"His armed forces"​

​

Daniel 11:31​

His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.​

And you said they don't have anything to do with it.

They don't. Here let me help you understand...Who is the first verse of Daniel 11 speaking of....Darius the Mede. So this was speaking of the times after 454BC.... Chapter 11 is about the last four hundred years that many say the Bible says nothing about...The Army you are speaking of is Artexetes Epiphanes around 170 BC, He placed a Pig in the temple, spread pig blood all over the Holy of Holies....This was called the 1st Abomination of Desolate by the Lord. The next Abomination of Desolate does not occur until Daniel's 70th week. you sir are in the wrong time period.

 

[tailgator]

You appear to be quoting from the NIV.

Daniel 11:31 is historic and was fulfilled when Antiochus IV set up a statue of Zeus in the temple.

Prior to that event, in Daniel 11:30, Antiochus IV was heading down to Egypt to depose the ruling king there.
But that king was under Roman protection and the Roman representative (the ships of Chittim) confronted Antiochus on his way.

At that confrontation, the Roman representative drew a line in the sand and told Antiochus if he crossed it and continued to Egypt - it would mean war against Rome to do so. Antiochus, not wanting to go to war against Rome, bitterly turned around and headed back. It was then in Daniel 11:31, that his troops took out their frustration by persecuting the Jews and setting up the statue of Zeus in the temple.

Daniel 11 does not start talking about the end times until Daniel 11:36. Daniel 11:35 is the transition verse to the end times.

Daniel 11:36 begins talking about the "time of the end" king.

The king in Daniel 11:31 is the same king in Daniel 11:36.

Daniel 11 is a succession of kings one after another .There is no thousands or millions of years between them .

You have been taught by a lier who thought the time of the end was in 167 BC.