Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

[Spiritual Israelite]

Why, doesn't make sense because you refuse to listen to what Jesus said in John 5:28-29? Why are you wasting your time by not believing what He said there that ALL... in the graves will hear His voice and come forth??

I agree wholeheartedly with what He said as do all Amils. That's why I'm confused as to why you are a Premil. The judgment occurs right after the resurrection of the dead which is why it says the unsaved will be resurrected unto damnation. They will be cast into "everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels" when Jesus comes (Matt 25:31-46), which is a reference to the lake of fire. Why do you have that happening 1,000+ years later?

So then, you've never read Zechariah 14:16-19 for after...

Yes, I have. I've also read Hebrews 8-10 which makes the idea of animal sacrifices being reinstated impossible. If Zechariah 14:16-19 in a literal, futuristic sense than that would mean animal sacrifices would be reinstated in the future, but that is impossible because Jesus made the old covenant and its animal sacrifices obsolete forever by His once for all sacrifice. You're not taking all of scripture into account here. You are interpreting an OT passage in such a way that contradicts NT scripture.

Christ's future return, when even leftovers of the armies that will come upon against Jerusalem on the last day, will be made to come and worship Christ from year to year, and keep the feast of tabernacles?

So, do you believe that what Jesus said in the following will no longer be true one day? Show me where Jesus ever indicated that.

John 4:
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.” 21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Did God make it so that people no longer had to go to the mountain in Jerusalem to worship Him and instead required them to worship Him in spirit and in truth wherever they were only to again require people to go to Jerusalem to worship Him? Why do you think God has a plan to regress things to how they used to be after all the progress that was made by Jesus when He shed His blood and made His "once for all" sacrifice?

Notice it speaks of the existence of 'nations' there doing that also. Do you reject that Zechariah 14 Scripture too like you do John 5:28-29?

Why do you try to say that I reject John 5:28-29 when I interpret it the same way you do? You have a bad reading comprehension problem. And, your interpretation of Zechariah 14 contradicts other scripture. Does that matter to you or are you going to insist on making scripture say what you want it to say instead?

BRETHREN IN CHRIST JESUS:
The UNSAVED that go through Christ's future "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect are represented by the "nations" it mentions...

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
KJV

Don't folks read their Bible anymore?!? This is an EASY to understand matter once God's Word is heeded about it!

You are not a Bible teacher. You are lacking in discernment about this and are completely unqualified to teach about this. The unsaved living will all be killed when Jesus returns (Matt 24:35-39, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev 19:17-18) and then the unsaved dead will all be resurrected and will be cast into the lake of fire. The idea that any unsaved will still be populating the earth at that point contradicts scripture.

Rev 19:14-16
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
KJV

The above is about the future day of Christ's coming on the last day of this present world, and the start of His future reign with that "rod of iron" over the UNSAVED NATIONS. Surely Christ's elect that reign also using that "rod of iron" with Him can figure out that 'rod' is not for the SAVED?!?

Are you unable to read anything in context? Do you know what the word smite means? It relates to destruction, as does the reference to Him treading the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God". He is going to destroy them, not rule over them for a thousand years. You are completely ignoring the context there.

And, by the way, the Bible wasn't originally written in English. The English translators translated the Greek word "ethnos" as nations there, but it should have been interpreted as "heathen". That would line up with the OT prophecy that references Him breaking/destroying the heathen with a rod of iron.

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

How can He rule over people who He has destroyed? You need to learn how to interpret scripture in context.

Again, notice Jesus is to rule over WHOM... with that "rod of iron"??

The NATIONS. That must mean nations of the UNSAVED will still exist DURING Christ's future "thousand years" reign??

Yes, of course! again simply because that "rod of iron" is NOT for His elect who ALSO will use that "rod of iron" to rule over those nation during His future "thousand years" reign. Jesus promised to give His elect that "rod of iron" to reign in that future time with Him...

Rev 2:26-27
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of My Father.
KJV

OK, the above is Biblical PROOF that Christ's elect will also reign over the UNSAVED NATIONS with that same "rod of iron" which The Father gave Jesus Christ to reign with.

But did you not know brethren where this prophecy was first given?
Turn with me to Psalms 2...

8 Ask of Me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

When... does the above actually happen? It ain't happened yet today, that should be obvious, as there are still many nations and peoples today who are against Christ. This will only happen on the day of Jesus' future coming, as KING of kings, and LORD of lords. Jesus will reign over ALL nations and peoples then. These "heathen" are put for the NATIONS per a Hebrew word that refers to Gentiles.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

There it is, the first reference to Christ reigning in the future over the UNSAVED NATIONS with that "rod of iron".

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
KJV

The above then is about Christ's future "thousand years" reign, with those kings and judges being made to bow to Him while He and His elect reign over them with that "rod of iron" of the future.

So, you even knew enough to reference the OT prophecy that Revelation 19:15 is based on and you still get it all wrong. There is no reference there to Jesus ruling over anyone for a long time there. Instead, it talks about Jesus destroying His enemies (the heathen). You are making scripture say what you want it to say instead of accepting what it actually says. You are completely ignoring the context.

 

[Davy]

I agree wholeheartedly with what He said as do all Amils.

So you believe the Rev.20:5 "dead" are all raised and then immediately destroyed on the day of Christ's future return?

 

[Davy]

That's why I'm confused as to why you are a Premil. The judgment occurs right after the resurrection of the dead which is why it says the unsaved will be resurrected unto damnation. They will be cast into "everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels" when Jesus comes (Matt 25:31-46), which is a reference to the lake of fire. Why do you have that happening 1,000+ years later?

And there it is in red that I underlined, that you say the Rev.20:5 "dead" are raised at Christ's coming and then immediately destroyed, that God's Great White Throne Judgment happens right then on the same day of Christ's coming. (Which idea is nowhere written in God's Word.)

I have already destroyed... that bogus idea that God's Great White Throne Judgment happens on the same day of Christ's appearing. For that to be true, then the reign over the UNSAVED nations that begins by Christ and His elect with His "rod of iron" would not be possible. Another major reason why this is so is because when God's Great White Throne Judgment happens, ALL... the UNSAVED are cast into the "lake of fire", along with the abode of hell, and even the concept of 'death' is cast into it and destroyed!

It is obvious per the events written in Rev.20 and in the rest of The Bible that Christ Jesus will... REIGN ON EARTH over UNSAVED NATIONS, and that points directly to the "thousand years" period mentioned in Rev.20 as being a LITERAL PERIOD OF TIME. No way around that if one KEEPS God's Word as written.

But Brethren in Christ, always understand the difference between those who do NOT keep God's Word as written, but dream up all sorts of men's philosophy to try and replace what God's Word teaches as written. The devil is always at work within those men, and the devil's influence upon them causing their deceptions will not be revealed until Lord Jesus Christ returns. Just know that those types MUST exist for the end, to deter those from listening to our Heavenly Father and His Son in His Word, as a test to see Who we will follow.

 

[Keraz]

You say it like it is! @Davy
The AMill promoters deny Jesus His reward - to be the King over the world.
I wonder what He will say to them, on the Day we all stand before Him and God in Judgment.

 

[Scott Downey]

That 1000 year reign is in heaven, not on earth
1000 years is symbolic, not literal. 'a thousand years as one day, and one day as a thousand years to God.'

Those worthy of being kings and priests of God in revelation, are all reigning in Heaven with Christ as a current reality, and Jesus says they never perish, those who believe in Him, they have passed from death into life. The rev 20 kings and priests do not need raising to reign with Him in Heaven as they were raised with Christ and never died. They do need their own bodily resurrection which happens at Christ's return

here you go
Rev 1

5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

To Him who [a]loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us [b]kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 20, they only died bodily, they reign with Christ in heaven before Christ's return, even right now.
this 'first resurrection' is Christ, the first fruits. These rev 20 people are not yet having their own resurrection

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Scriptural evidence that the first resurrection is Christ's resurrection, not our yet to come resurrection.
Colossians 3
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

Colossians 2

11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body [a]of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Ephesians 2

But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

 

[Scott Downey]

You say it like it is! @Davy
The AMill promoters deny Jesus His reward - to be the King over the world.
I wonder what He will say to them, on the Day we all stand before Him and God in Judgment.

Jesus rules over all today, but we do not experience it yet. Yet we know Jesus said all authority in Heaven and Earth God has given Him now.
The world to come of which we speak, is the new earth and new heavens in which dwells righteousness, not of this earth or heaven.

5 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels. 6 But one testified in a certain place, saying:

“What is man that You are mindful of him,
Or the son of man that You take care of him?
7 You have made him [d]a little lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
[e]And set him over the works of Your hands.
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”
For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made [f]a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.

 

[Scott Downey]

The order of resurrection and we are also the first fruits of Christ, of Christ's ministering, He saved us.

James1

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning. 18 Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.

Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep.

21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So you believe the Rev.20:5 "dead" are all raised and then immediately destroyed on the day of Christ's future return?

I believe they are resurrected on the day Christ returns in the future and then appear before Christ to give an account of themselves after which they are cast into the lake of fire.

Scripture teaches that the unsaved will be resurrected "to shame and everlasting contempt" (Daniel 12:2) and "to be condemned" (John 5:28-29), so that implies that they are judged and cast into the lake of fire soon after being resurrected. Matthew 25:31-46 has the unsaved being cast "into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" when Jesus comes with His angels.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

And there it is in red that I underlined, that the Rev.20:5 "dead" are raised at Christ's coming and then immediately destroyed, that God's Great White Throne Judgment happens right then on the same day of Christ's coming.

I have already destroyed... that bogus idea that God's Great White Throne Judgment happens on the same day of Christ's appearing. For that to be true, then the reign over the UNSAVED nations that begins by Christ and His elect with His "rod of iron" would not be possible.

Is Matthew 25:31-46 in your Bible? That has the judgment and the unsaved being cast into "the eternal fire prepared for the devil and His angels", which is the lake of fire, right after Jesus comes with His angels.

Your theory of Him reigning over unsaved nations (nations aren't saved or unsaved, individuals are) for a thousand years with HIs rod of iron is all in your imagination. If you actually read scripture carefully, you would see that Him ruling with a rod of iron is associated with Him destroying His enemies, not ruling over them for a long period of time.

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

What do you see here that gives any indication of Him ruling over them for a thousand years rather than destroying them? Other scripture has Him destroying all of the living wicked when He returns (Matt 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10-12), so who exactly do you think He will rule with a rod of iron in the way you think He will after He returns?

Another major reason why this is so is because when God's Great White Throne Judgment happens, ALL... the UNSAVED are cast into the "lake of fire", along with the above of hell, and even the concept of 'death' is cast into it and destroyed! It is obvious per the events written in Rev.20 and in the rest of The Bible that Christ Jesus will... REIGN ON EARTH over UNSAVED NATIONS, and that points directly to the "thousand years" period mentioned in Rev.20 as being a LITERAL PERIOD OF TIME. No way around that if one KEEPS God's Word as written.

He will not reign on earth over unsaved nations (what are unsaved nations, anyway?) for a thousand years when He returns. That contradicts a great deal of scripture, but you don't care about that. You only care about twisting the rest of scripture to fit your false interpretation of Revelation 20.

But Brethren in Christ, always understand the difference between those who do NOT keep God's Word as written, but dream up all sorts of men's philosophy to try and replace what God's Word teaches as written.

Agree. Brethren in Christ, observe carefully how Davy here dodges every challenge to his view and how he likes to act as if he knows what he's talking about while he does nothing to back it up.

The devil is always at work within those men, and the devil's influence upon them causing their deceptions will not be revealed until Lord Jesus Christ returns. Just know that those types MUST exist for the end, to deter those from listening to our Heavenly Father and His Son in His Word, as a test to see Who we will follow.

Here you go again associating anyone who doesn't agree with your end times doctrine as following the devil. What a joke! You are completely delusional. Nowhere does scripture itself associate one's understanding of end times doctrine with their spiritual status. You condemn people who love the Lord with all their heart, soul and mind and try to serve Him any way they can just because they disagree with your end times doctrine. It's ludicrous.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You say it like it is! @Davy
The AMill promoters deny Jesus His reward - to be the King over the world.

Premil promoters like you deny who Jesus is NOW. You don't accept what Jesus Himself said. You think it's up to you to decide what it means for Him to be King of the world instead of letting Him decide what it means. It has nothing to do with Him being a dictator the way you think He will be.

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

If Him having all authority on earth doesn't make Him "King over the world", then I don't know what does. Nothing happens in the world without His permission. You have no understanding of what it means for Him to be King. Since when can someone only be considered a king if everyone in his kingdom is obedient to him? He is King of kings and Lord of lords whether those kings and lords acknowledge it or not. Him being King is not dependent on anyone's acknowledgement of His kingship.

I wonder what He will say to them, on the Day we all stand before Him and God in Judgment.

If we followed Him and loved others and cared for the poor and needy the way He wants us to then He will say "Well done, thou good and faithful servants". He won't say anything about our end times beliefs. What will it matter to Him if we believed in Amill or Premill? If you want to know what He cares about the most, read Matthew 25:31-46. You won't see anything there about having the correct end times beliefs. There are both Amills and Premills who love Him and serve Him faithfully and that is what He cares about.

 

[Davy]

That 1000 year reign is in heaven, not on earth
1000 years is symbolic, not literal. 'a thousand years as one day, and one day as a thousand years to God.'

Nah, that's a doctrine of men you are saying.

God's Word makes that "thousand years" of Rev.20 as a LITERAL PERIOD of TIME when Jesus will reign with His elect, using the "rod of iron" The Father gave Him, to reign over the UNSAVED NATIONS after... His future return, as written (Rev.2:26-27; 1 Corinthians 15:23-28; Psalms 2).

 

[Scott Downey]

Nah, that's a doctrine of men you are saying.

God's Word makes that "thousand years" of Rev.20 as a LITERAL PERIOD of TIME when Jesus will reign with His elect, using the "rod of iron" The Father gave Him, to reign over the UNSAVED NATIONS after... His future return, as written (Rev.2:26-27; 1 Corinthians 15:23-28; Psalms 2).

There won't be any unsaved people after His return. All the unsaved went to hell fire.
You probably think babies will be born in the age of the resurrection to come and also marriages?

Luke 20

28 saying: “Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man’s brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second [g]took her as wife, and he died childless. 31 Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven [h]also; and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife.”

34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. 37 But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38 For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.”

39 Then some of the scribes answered and said, “Teacher, You have spoken well.” 40 But after that they dared not question Him anymore.

 

[Davy]

There won't be any unsaved people after His return.

Well, the Bible Scriptures I have posted have already debunked that above idea, or man's false idea of Amillennialism which you have attached yourself to.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Nah, that's a doctrine of men you are saying.

God's Word makes that "thousand years" of Rev.20 as a LITERAL PERIOD of TIME when Jesus will reign with His elect, using the "rod of iron" The Father gave Him, to reign over the UNSAVED NATIONS after... His future return, as written (Rev.2:26-27; 1 Corinthians 15:23-28; Psalms 2).

What are "unsaved nations"? Salvation is an individual thing, not a national thing.

Also, have you actually read Psalm 2?

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

What do you see here that gives any indication of Jesus reigning over the unsaved heathen (not nations) for a long period of time? Is He going to spend the entire supposed future thousand years breaking/destroying them with His rod of iron? Or is this talking about what other scriptures refer to when they show Him taking vengeance on unbelievers on the day He comes by destroying them (2 Thess 1:7-10)?

 

[Scott Downey]

This fake teaching says some believing Jews and Gentiles are excluded from being glorified??
Will have earthly bodies, marry and have unsaved kids...they survived the tribulation...as those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel, when Christ returned but they survived. Goes entirely against what scripture says.
They drag out these memes from the OT prophecies which they interpret, because you do not find any of it in the New Testament

Will babies be born in the millennial reign? What a terrible twisting of what Jesus says.

Who will occupy the Millennial Kingdom? | GotQuestions.org

Who will occupy / populate the Millennial Kingdom? Who will be allowed to enter the 1000-year Millennial Kingdom of Christ?

www.gotquestions.org

The millennial kingdom is the future reign of Jesus Christ on earth as He sits on David’s throne in Jerusalem. Everyone who enters that kingdom will be redeemed by God and therefore righteous (see Isaiah 35:8–10). Among those redeemed will be two distinct groups of people: those with glorified physical bodies and those with natural, earthly bodies.

Those who occupy the millennial kingdom with glorified bodies can be divided into three subgroups: the church, whose bodies were either resurrected or changed at the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18; 1 Corinthians 15:21–23, 51–53); tribulation martyrs, who are resurrected after Christ returns to earth (Revelation 20:4–6); and the Old Testament saints, who we assume are resurrected at the same time (see Daniel 12:2).

Those who occupy the kingdom with earthly bodies have survived the tribulation and can be subdivided into two groups: believing Gentiles and believing Jews.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well, the Bible Scriptures I have posted have already debunked that above idea, or man's false idea of Amillennialism which you have attached yourself to.

LOL. You are so delusional. You have not posted anything that has debunked Amillennialism. You think you can just quote a scripture and claim that it refutes Amil without even showing how it supposedly refutes it. Anyone can quote scripture and make claims about it, but you need to show exactly how the scripture supports your claims, which you never do.

 

[Scott Downey]

Hear now the truth but only if you have ears to hear, some of you don't believe it.

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

 

[Scott Downey]

34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:

35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Jesus says to us the ONLY ones who are worthy to obtain that world, as in survive in that world to come and live in it, do not marry and have kids. They are like the angels.

You cannot have any people who do not know God attaining to that age. Who does Jesus return for anyway?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Hear now the truth but only if you have ears to hear, some of you don't believe it.

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

Premils somehow have some "who do not know God" and "do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ" surviving His return, but I don't see where that is indicated at all in the text. Why would some unbelievers be allowed to survive and the rest not? What would be different about them that would allow them to survive? Nothing. Premills like to try to say that they are the ones who take scripture literally, but if you take this scripture literally then you can see that no living unbeliever will survive the return of Christ. And that is taught in other scriptures like Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 as well.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:

35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Jesus tells the ONLY ones who are worthy to obtain that world, as in survive in that world to come and live in it, do not marry and have kids. They are like the angels.

You cannot have any people who do not know God attaining to that age. Who does Jesus return for anyway?

Agree. Also, there's this...

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Premils have flesh and blood mortals inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns and then populating the kingdom for a thousand years afterwards, which directly contradicts what Paul taught.