Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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I am very much against feminist ideology but I believe very strongly in the power women have.

We should use our strength and voices to speak up for the weak and helpless. We ought to have the power to control ourselves, including our words and appetities.

We should strive to live long healthy lives under the smile of God.

We should live life with passion and excellence, fearing no one, fearing no negative opinions.

We should own our beauty and use it to promote righteousness rather than evil.

We ought to teach younger women good things.

While men run the world, we women are it's heartbeat.
 
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I am very much against feminist ideology but I believe very strongly in the power women have.
Because young women have been indoctrinated with this false dichotomy, they never learn relationship skills with a man. They treat men as disposable as soon as a relationship challenge emerges and move on to the next man. I've posted countless vids on point. Here is a short one.


Here is a more in-depth analysis of women's entitlement and privilege today.

 

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Because young women have been indoctrinated with this false dichotomy, they never learn relationship skills with a man. They treat men as disposable as soon as a relationship challenge emerges and move on to the next man.
If not for turning to God's ways, this would have been me.

In no way was I taught how men think or operate, let alone how to successfully be in a romantic relationship with one.

I was only taught how I should be treated while dating.

I celebrate our 10th anniversary this August. God's command and Scripture helped me in ways no other advice did. But we have to be humble in order to recieve God's Word and simply follow it.
 
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I was only taught how I should be treated while dating.
This is why I developed a theory to explain why women love the Hallmark Channel, Lifetime and "chick flicks" generally. It reminds them of the narcissistic time when:
  1. It was all about them and what they want.
  2. They had no relationship responsibilities.
It's a disgusting sign of a lack of maturity. My first wife was an excellent date. Going on to the next phase of the relationship, where she had the fundamental responsibility to take what I want into consideration is where it all fell apart. She once lamented as we were separating, "where did that guy go who used to make me laugh?" She put all this stress on me for months - to the point I had health problems - ruining our family and she wants me to make her laugh like I'm some kind of comedian. :mad:

Men today are no longer even dating women in large numbers because women offer nothing of lasting value, no value proposition. Men realize the juice is not worth the squeeze. I broke up with so many women who were shocked to realize I wanted something from them, something from the relationship (beyond just sex). Feminism is an evil ideology.
 

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@Wynona, did you watch the vid? The relationship counselor noticed a trend. As soon as she mentioned to the woman that she is doing things that are not healthy for the relationship, the woman would get very defensive and stopped going.

The vid ends with a man observing reality. Counseling signals the end of the relationship.
 
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Feminism is an evil ideology.
The question remains: can we beat this evil? If so, how?

We can. This is how:

We're going to become the solution by being examples of how men and women should behave. We're going to teach the next generation wisdom against feminism and how the true blessing always comes from obeying God.
 

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@Wynona, did you watch the vid? The relationship counselor noticed a trend. As soon as she mentioned to the woman that she is doing things that are not healthy for the relationship, the woman would get very defensive and stopped going.

The vid ends with a man observing reality. Counseling signals the end of the relationship.
Yes, I watched the video. Was just telling my husband about it. Running from accountability is toxic no matter who does it. When wives do it, husband suffer.

Elijah, my husband, wanted to add that the road to being a masculine Christian is a tough one. It is worth pursuing even if women don't understand and irrespective of your relationship status.

Edit: My husband practices stoic principles with Christianity.
 
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The question remains: can we beat this evil? If so, how?

We can. This is how:

We're going to become the solution by being examples of how men and women should behave. We're going to teach the next generation wisdom against feminism and how the true blessing always comes from obeying God.
No, Wynona.

The question is STILL whether or not feminism is "evil".

Unless and until you and a few others *prove" that it's "evil", you and the others have no real leg to stand on.

So, right now, it's just your opinion.
 

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Nope. Shown many ways it is EVIL - more evil than communism and fascism combined. If feminism is not evil then nothing is evil!
Feminism isn't even CLOSE to communism and/or fascism, nor has feminism demonstrated it's evilness in many ways.
If *you* believe feminism is evil, then you have no idea 'evil' is.
 

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You're projecting. YOU SHALL NOT MURDER. Ever hear of that?
Sigh. Apparently you don't understanding what "projecting" is either.
And by "murder" I'm assuming that you mean abortion.

Do you understand that not ALL feminists support abortion? And that SOME 'tradwives' and 'tradhusbands' support a woman's right to choose?
 
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Do you understand that not ALL feminists support abortion? And that SOME 'tradwives' and 'tradhusbands' support a woman's right to choose?
This is a great example of the No True Scotsman fallacy. Perfect for deflecting from the actual topic: whether feminism is evil or not.

Most reasonable people acknowledge that abortion is the murder of an innocent life---making it an obvious evil. Even pro-choice people acknowledge this, saying restricting women's autonomy is still a greater evil.

Feminism's evil has nothing to do with all feminists agreeing on the same belief.

It has to do with the  results. Over a century of increasing feminist influence has not resulted in women being happier, healthier, or more fulfilled in their relationships l.

The result of feminism is that the government gets more and more power, women are more stressed out, overweight, and unfulfilled in their relationships, and have a harder time understanding and relating to men.

Intentions aside, the results of feminism really stink.
 
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@Wynona, did you watch the vid? The relationship counselor noticed a trend. As soon as she mentioned to the woman that she is doing things that are not healthy for the relationship, the woman would get very defensive and stopped going.

The vid ends with a man observing reality. Counseling signals the end of the relationship.
Wow. This just goes to show how EASILY influenced you are.

The title of the clip is "Why women struggle with accountability..." and yet in this ONE MINUTE clip, the therapist said NOTHING to explain WHY some* women struggle with accountability. (*Although in the clip she said that "many" women did this, we have no idea what she considers to be "many.")

While she claims that some of the women would become defensive and stop going (to her) for therapy, she doesn't explain the whole story. For instance...a bad therapist will listen to ONE spouses side of the story, and begin to launch into what the other spouse should do to change...WITHOUT HEARING the other spouse's side. Is that what THIS therapist did?

Also, while therapists are supposed to leave their own "stuff" out of therapy, some don't. They sometimes bring their own beliefs into therapy which isn't appropriate. For example, if a therapist believes that a man should be the head of the house, and yet the couple believes in a more egalitarian marriage, that therapist won't match with that couple.

Some therapists are more qualified in certain areas than others. I knew of a therapist who qualified herself as a "Marital" therapist when she had only counselled TWO couples.

The therapist on the vid was vague about what happened. What did SHE possibly say that could have caused the so-called "many women" to leave?
 

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The title of the clip is "Why women struggle with accountability..." and yet in this ONE MINUTE clip, the therapist said NOTHING to explain WHY women struggle with accountability.
She sure did explain! Defensiveness is due to Ego. We’ve delved into it MANY times.

Every post you’ve made in this thread shows the giant chip on your shoulder.
 

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This is a great example of the No True Scotsman fallacy. Perfect for deflecting from the actual topic: whether feminism is evil or not.

Most reasonable people acknowledge that abortion is the murder of an innocent life---making it an obvious evil.
So you're saying that everyone who doesn't agree with you on this subject is "unreasonable."

There are an awful lot of people out there who would challenge your statement, using the bible (yes, THE bible!) to back themselves up. And it has NOTHING to do with feminism, but rather religious beliefs.

Plenty of religious denominations, using the same bible YOU do, would disagree with you.

Do you even get that abortion was accepted in Christian denominations until the 19th century?

Even in some sects of Judaism, abortion is allowed under certain circumstances...such as, that carrying a baby to term would cause harm to the mother...OR the fetus. And since Christianity is heavily based on Judaism, well...

Had you been involved with Judaism, you just might have a different take on the issue.
Even pro-choice people acknowledge this, saying restricting women's autonomy is still a greater evil.
I'm sure some pro-choice people would say that.
Feminism's evil has nothing to do with all feminists agreeing on the same belief.

It has to do with the  results. Over a century of increasing feminist influence has not resulted in women being happier, healthier, or more fulfilled in their relationships l.
And WHY do you think that is?

While YOU believe that feminism is no longer necessary because "it already achieved its goal(s)", this is far, FAR from the truth.
You tend to believe that because certain laws are in place to protect women from discrimination, that EVERYONE is on board with those laws.

They're not.

And THAT'S the problem.

Women STILL face discrimination in the workplace via sexual harassment and receiving lower wages than men in general for doing the same job. And while conditions have improved, they're far from eliminated.

Feminism ALLOWS *YOU* to get a credit card...WITHOUT your husband or father's approval. It allows you to VOTE, even if your vote is contrary to your husband's. Do you use birth control? You can thank feminism for that, too.

And that's only a FEW things to mention. Feminism isn't just regulated to the West. It's also fighting for women overseas to have a say in FORCED marriages and Female Genital Mutilation, for example. Would you like it if your husband insisted on having YOUR genitals 'circumcised' because he feared that you MIGHT be sexually aroused by seeing another more attractive man? Would you want your 11 year old baby girl to be FORCED into marriage by some 30 year old man?

THESE are some of the things that feminism DESPISES, and feminism fights against.

You, Wrangler and a few others see feminism in a limited way. Feminism isn't just for women's rights...it's for HUMAN rights, that include women as HUMAN. Different kind of human from men, but human, nonetheless.

God created men and women EQUALLY, which is what you and others fail to see. There are TWO stories of creation in the bible. YOU and others only recognize ONE.

In Genesis 1, God gave THEM...that is, male and FEMALE dominion over the earth. God never said, "I give MAN dominion over WOMAN."

In Genesis, God predicted what would happen. God NEVER COMMANDED men to rule over women. But you and other see it like God did.
Do you REALLY think that the people in the bible did EVERYTHING that God supposedly "commanded? "

If you believe that, I suggest you read your bible again...
 
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She sure did explain! Defensiveness is due to Ego. We’ve delved into it MANY times.

Every post you’ve made in this thread shows the giant chip on your shoulder.
No, sweetie. More like an egotistical chip on your own.

She never ONCE mentioned ego. Once again, are you so naive to believe that ALL therapists are alike in their approach?
 

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No, sweetie. More like an egotistical chip on your own.

She never ONCE mentioned ego.
She does t have to. She mentioned defensive. That’s not a reaction of a person who humbly seeks a better relationship. Watch the vid again with open eyes and ears this time.
 

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Love your naked Strawman’s. So, how have you triumphed over feminism again?
Why do I have to? Feminism has done a lot of good for women...AND men.
And even the OP reaps the benefits of feminism.

AS, YOU do too......
 
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