It is true, because Jesus said it is...

[Brakelite]

...that "something" was finished at the cross. However, Paul, inspired by the holy Spirit, said, “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV
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Many take Christ's declaration at the cross , "it is finished", as their complete and end of all argument and now impossible reversal of their salvation. If however the death of Jesus on the cross was all that was necessary to procure your final salvation, then what is Paul talking about? "Ye are yet in your sins"? What is it about the resurrection that takes care of that sin problem, of all was "finished at the cross" as many testify?

 

[Verily]

Jesus said here

Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

The Sadducess doctrine is that there is no resurrection

See it?

Mark 12:18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection

That leaven is making it's way into the church which is being adressed here

1 Cr 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

1 Cr 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

1 Cr 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

 

[Brakelite]

Jesus said here

Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

The Sadducess doctrine is that there is no resurrection

See it?

Mark 12:18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection

That leaven is making it's way into the church which is being adressed here

1 Cr 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

1 Cr 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

1 Cr 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Is it merely about our believing in Christ's resurrection, or is there something intrinsically vital to our salvation that wasn't finished at the cross, but necessitated the resurrection and what followed, in order to complete the atonement?

 

[RedFan]

...that "something" was finished at the cross. However, Paul, inspired by the holy Spirit, said, “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV
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Many take Christ's declaration at the cross , "it is finished", as their complete and end of all argument and now impossible reversal of their salvation. If however the death of Jesus on the cross was all that was necessary to procure your final salvation, then what is Paul talking about? "Ye are yet in your sins"? What is it about the resurrection that takes care of that sin problem, of all was "finished at the cross" as many testify?

When thinking of Christ's death and resurrection, I see the death as salvific and the resurrection as proof of the cross's efficacy. That would go quite ways to explaining Paul's statement.

 

[Verily]

Is it merely about our believing in Christ's resurrection, or is there something intrinsically vital to our salvation that wasn't finished at the cross, but necessitated the resurrection and what followed, in order to complete the atonement?

What was finished on the cross was that Jesus bare our sins in his own body on the tree.

His resurrection sets him apart as the Son of God, that you might put your faith in God who raised him from the dead. Jesus foretold them this would happen in saying, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men: And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry. Mat 17:22-23

This is how he was shown openly and declared the Son of God

Romans 1:4-5 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name

Romans 3:5 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

This is the gospel as Paul sets it forth here

1 Cr 5:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Cr 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1Cr 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Cr 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

Thats just "first of all" for us to begin at. In short

Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

So in your first post when you pull from where Paul is speaking he is adressing those among them who are saying there is "no resurrection".

The Sadducees, are they which say there is no resurrection Mark 12:18

Jesus said, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees

That leaven (which is their doctrine) is making it's way into the church which is being adressed Paul here

1 Cr 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

1 Cr 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

1 Cr 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

And I think you just pulled from there without realizing that they were stepping in it and he was reeling them out of that way of thinking. Which was denying the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Which is the faith, part of our confession

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

How we are saved, if that can help you out some

 

[David in NJ]

...that "something" was finished at the cross. However, Paul, inspired by the holy Spirit, said, “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV
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Many take Christ's declaration at the cross , "it is finished", as their complete and end of all argument and now impossible reversal of their salvation. If however the death of Jesus on the cross was all that was necessary to procure your final salvation, then what is Paul talking about? "Ye are yet in your sins"? What is it about the resurrection that takes care of that sin problem, of all was "finished at the cross" as many testify?

Child's Play my Brother

If JESUS did not rise from the Grave then HE committed sin and you and i and everyone are still under condemnation.

"Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil,"

The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!

 

[David in NJ]

Is it merely about our believing in Christ's resurrection, or is there something intrinsically vital to our salvation that wasn't finished at the cross, but necessitated the resurrection and what followed, in order to complete the atonement?

It was finished at the Cross just as JESUS said.

Question: What was finished?

Hint: see post #6

 

[Brakelite]

What all you guys are saying is true. But I'm trying to encourage you to look deeper. Let me take you back to what Paul said, and as I quoted earlier...

“And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV

Paul is being unequivocal here. If Jesus did not come forth from the grave, everyone would "be yet in their sins". Therefore, despite what took place on the cross, of there were no resurrection, the cross would have had no efficacy toward anyone salvation. Thus the resurrection, and what followed, plays a vital role in the atonement, without which we would all be lost. What is that role? Let me give you a clue.
“15 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. 16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; (you can imagine here Mary rushing forward to give Jesus a hug) for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ”
John 20:15-17 KJV
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Then a little later, maybe 2 weeks, we see this...

“24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. ”
John 20:24-28 KJV

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What took place between the resurrection and the refusal to allow Mary's touch, and 2 weeks later the offer to Thomas?

Here's another clue...

“13 And if the whole congregation of Israel sin through ignorance, and the thing be hid from the eyes of the assembly, and they have done somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which should not be done, and are guilty; 14 When the sin, which they have sinned against it, is known, then the congregation shall offer a young bullock for the sin, and bring him before the tabernacle of the congregation. 15 And the elders of the congregation shall lay their hands upon the head of the bullock before the LORD: and the bullock shall be killed before the LORD. 16 And the priest that is anointed shall bring of the bullock's blood to the tabernacle of the congregation: 17 And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it seven times before the LORD, even before the vail. 18 And he shall put some of the blood upon the horns of the altar which is before the LORD, that is in the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall pour out all the blood at the bottom of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 19 And he shall take all his fat from him, and burn it upon the altar. 20 And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them. 21 And he shall carry forth the bullock without the camp, and burn him as he burned the first bullock: it is a sin offering for the congregation. ”
Leviticus 4:13-21 KJV

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[RedFan]

If Jesus did not come forth from the grave, everyone would "be yet in their sins". Therefore, despite what took place on the cross, of there were no resurrection, the cross would have had no efficacy toward anyone salvation. Thus the resurrection, and what followed, plays a vital role in the atonement, without which we would all be lost.

Let me push back a bit here, and explain why I still think the cross alone was salvific and the resurrection was simply the proof that the cross actually worked. Imagine development of an antidote to a deadly disease whose death rate was 100%. The injection turns out to be effective 100% of the time too. When first developed, the drug is tried out on a volunteer (let's call him Jesus, just to pick a name at random). Word gets out that Jesus is cured! Dr. Paul is pushing the miracle drug at a medical convention, and declares to his skeptical audience "If Jesus is still on his death bed, our faith in this drug is in vain"?

Despite Dr. Paul's statement, it was the injection, not Jesus getting up from his death bed, that reversed the disease. Jesus getting up is proof of the efficacy of the drug, nothing more. That's Dr. Paul's point.

 

[PGS11]

All of humanity was condemned to hell in the fall by Satan and the fallen Angels it is our default destination without Christ - its why Jesus came - its what the whole faith is about.The world and humanity are in a fallen state and needed a Savior or hell is the default location..Its right there in Genesis hard to miss no need to complicate it. Its a war for souls the fallen Angels do not want humanity in heaven its all there in the bible.

 

[Brakelite]

Let me push back a bit here, and explain why I still think the cross alone was salvific and the resurrection was simply the proof that the cross actually worked. Imagine development of an antidote to a deadly disease whose death rate was 100%. The injection turns out to be effective 100% of the time too. When first developed, the drug is tried out on a volunteer (let's call him Jesus, just to pick a name at random). Word gets out that Jesus is cured! Dr. Paul is pushing the miracle drug at a medical convention, and declares to his skeptical audience "If Jesus is still on his death bed, our faith in this drug is in vain"?

Despite Dr. Paul's statement, it was the injection, not Jesus getting up from his death bed, that reversed the disease. Jesus getting up is proof of the efficacy of the drug, nothing more. That's Dr. Paul's point.

Again, I can't disagree with what you are saying.... except i believe the analogy falls short as i believe there is more to resurrected life than simple "proof of the efficacy of the drug".... but certainly, without the shedding of blood there is no remission. The cross cannot be bypassed.
Let me ask another question. We know that the sacrifices of the old temple were types and a form of prophecy even for the ultimate final sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. The services and the rituals of the sanctuary all pointed to a coming Saviour, whose one sacrifice would bring an end to the sanctuary and priesthood system that was the OT gospel for Israel. Question. Would Israel have benefited from the sacrifices if the priest hadn't taken the blood into the sanctuary and sprinkled it before the veil and rubbed it on the horns of the altar?
Now think about this...

“11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. 17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. 20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. ”
Hebrews 7:11-28 KJV

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And now the important part...

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
o For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. ”
Hebrews 8:1-6 KJV

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[MatthewG]

Hello @Brakelite,

In face of the question, resurrection is an important part of the Gospel. As Paul demonstrated by writing somewhere “The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection, of the Lord Jesus.” Jesus was risen by the Holy Spirit of his Father. Why? Because at his death; the fulfillment of the Law was finished, nailed to the cross by and through the supplemental flesh which took on that sin; though Yeshua was sinless. This rising again, was justification of these things being fortified by His death, and the promises of Yahavah not failing in rising him again. Just as he told his disciples many times “I’m gonna be handed over to the high priest, elders, and put to death.” Now that justification brings forth deliverance of once being bondage to the Israelites of the Law itself, though they still needed to repent of it, along with placing the Lord to death. The Gentiles were to come to faith, in which would lead to a change of mind into worshipping the true and living God because what was finished at the cross, now brought Jew and Gentile alike in newness of life by rising with Christ. Just my two cents, and opinion on the matter.

 

[Brakelite]

So. I have decided to resurrect (pun intended) this thread because I don't think too many fully comprehended the very important implications of Paul's statement I alluded to earlier when in addressing Christians who had all accepted Christ's sacrifice on Calvary as the propitiation for their sins, he said,
“And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV

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We all know that Christ, being sinless, could not be held by death. And because He took our sins upon Himself when He died, then we have a sure hope and promise that if our sins are all laid upon our Saviour, then death no longer has any hold over us either. We also will be resurrected at the second coming.

We also know that the old Testament sanctuary services, from the first step of the washing in the laver (representing baptism) to our acceptance and linking our selves with the death of the Lamb,
are a type of the ultimate NT fulfillment of those services that leads to our justification by faith.

But there are some questions i would like you to seriously consider.
Did what Christ finish at the cross fully meet the OT rituals that lead to atonement for Israel? If not, why not? What else did the priest do in the OT after the sacrifice that was essential to Israel's ultimate atonement? How did Jesus meet that type... what was the antitype... do we pay too little attention to that part of Christ's ministry, and if it was essential for Israel as a completion to their religious experience, are "we yet in our sins" because we are missing out on that part of Christ's resurrection and what He is now accomplishing on our behalf, by completing our atonement?

Is our religious experience falling short of full completion because we are sidestepping, ignoring, and are ignorant of what actually followed Calvary and is significance?

Are we yet in our sins, despite our claims to having been saved by the cross?

 

[David in NJ]

So. I have decided to resurrect (pun intended) this thread because I don't think too many fully comprehended the very important implications of Paul's statement I alluded to earlier when in addressing Christians who had all accepted Christ's sacrifice on Calvary as the propitiation for their sins, he said,
“And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV

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We all know that Christ, being sinless, could not be held by death. And because He took our sins upon Himself when He died, then we have a sure hope and promise that if our sins are all laid upon our Saviour, then death no longer has any hold over us either. We also will be resurrected at the second coming.

We also know that the old Testament sanctuary services, from the first step of the washing in the laver (representing baptism) to our acceptance and linking our selves with the death of the Lamb,
are a type of the ultimate NT fulfillment of those services that leads to our justification by faith.

But there are some questions i would like you to seriously consider.
Did what Christ finish at the cross fully meet the OT rituals that lead to atonement for Israel? If not, why not? What else did the priest do in the OT after the sacrifice that was essential to Israel's ultimate atonement? How did Jesus meet that type... what was the antitype... do we pay too little attention to that part of Christ's ministry, and if it was essential for Israel as a completion to their religious experience, are "we yet in our sins" because we are missing out on that part of Christ's resurrection and what He is now accomplishing on our behalf, by completing our atonement?

Is our religious experience falling short of full completion because we are sidestepping, ignoring, and are ignorant of what actually followed Calvary and is significance?

Are we yet in our sins, despite our claims to having been saved by the cross?

Well you seem to be alluding to ADDITIONAL requirements for Salvation which is antichrist 'poppycock'.

You may be attempting, like many on these forums, to ADD to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST.

This is SIN and the Penalty is DEATH.

I will REMIND you of Exodus 31:12-15

And the LORD said to Moses, “Tell the Israelites, ‘Surely you must keep My Sabbaths, for this will be a sign between Me and you for the generations to come, so that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. Keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Anyone who profanes it must surely be put to death. Whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from among his people.
For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death.

Whoever attempts to add to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST will not be accepted by God.

 

[Brakelite]

Well you seem to be alluding to ADDITIONAL requirements for Salvation which is antichrist 'poppycock'.

You may be attempting, like many on these forums, to ADD to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST.

This is SIN and the Penalty is DEATH.

I will REMIND you of Exodus 31:12-15

And the LORD said to Moses, “Tell the Israelites, ‘Surely you must keep My Sabbaths, for this will be a sign between Me and you for the generations to come, so that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. Keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Anyone who profanes it must surely be put to death. Whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from among his people.
For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death.

Whoever attempts to add to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST will not be accepted by God.

I will remember this tonight as sunset approaches. Although it is a strange response to my questions. Remember, it was Paul who said to Christians of his day, that even though thy events at Calvary took place a number of years before, if not for the resurrection, those Christians would be yet in their sins. So my question remains.
What is it about the resurrection and any or all subsequent events, that dealt with their sin problem that wasn't finished at the cross? Seems a simple enough question. Why would you jump to the Sabbath issue?

 

[David in NJ]

I will remember this tonight as sunset approaches. Although it is a strange response to my questions. Remember, it was Paul who said to Christians of his day, that even though thy events at Calvary took place a number of years before, if not for the resurrection, those Christians would be yet in their sins. So my question remains.
What is it about the resurrection and any or all subsequent events, that dealt with their sin problem that wasn't finished at the cross? Seems a simple enough question. Why would you jump to the Sabbath issue?

What is it about the resurrection and any or all subsequent events, that dealt with their sin problem that wasn't finished at the cross?

I spelled it out for you in Post 14 to which you thought it to be 'funny' through your ignorance of OT Law and the REASON for the OT Law.

I can give more clarity, but why should i cast pearls before mockers!!!

Would you like to explain your mocking of the FINISHED work of CHRIST?

 

[Brakelite]

Well you seem to be alluding to ADDITIONAL requirements for Salvation which is antichrist 'poppycock'.

Couldn't be further from the truth. Not once in any of my posts above did I even remotely suggest that there was anything we needed to do. If you had eyes to see and ears to hear my brother, you would have understood that it was all about what Christ is doing now in His NT resurrection High Priesthood ministry as spoken of throughout Hebrews. And what He is doing now is essential to our salvation, so I'm wondering why so few people don't have an immediate answer as to what that is, and why?

Would you like to explain your mocking of the FINISHED work of CHRIST?

Laughing at your answer to my questions which isn't really an answer. And you've proved my point in a way, repeating the common evangelical theme that says. Christ's finished work Secured my salvation and I'm good to go. However, Paul said of Christians that if there were no resurrection they were still in their sins. So whatever Christ finished, it didn't fully deal with the sin problem did it. At the very least, not unto after the resurrection. Why is that so important and how does that affect people's sin issue. It must go deeper than simply a confirmation of Christ's propitiation, for that took place on the cross.

Anybody?

 

[David in NJ]

Couldn't be further from the truth. Not once in any of my posts above did I even remotely suggest that there was anything we needed to do. If you had eyes to see and ears to hear my brother, you would have understood that it was all about what Christ is doing now in His NT resurrection High Priesthood ministry as spoken of throughout Hebrews. And what He is doing now is essential to our salvation, so I'm wondering why so few people don't have an immediate answer as to what that is, and why?

Laughing at your answer to my questions which isn't really an answer. And you've proved my point in a way, repeating the common evangelical theme that says. Christ's finished work Secured my salvation and I'm good to go. However, Paul said of Christians that if there were no resurrection they were still in their sins. So whatever Christ finished, it didn't fully deal with the sin problem did it. At the very least, not unto after the resurrection. Why is that so important and how does that affect people's sin issue. It must go deeper than simply a confirmation of Christ's propitiation, for that took place on the cross.

Anybody?

Laughing at your answer to my questions which isn't really an answer.

the LORD Says it is = "Out of the heart a man speaks"

Couldn't be further from the truth.

EXACTLY = Your misrepresentation of the FINISHED WORK of CRIST, could not be further from the Truth

the common evangelical theme that says. Christ's finished work Secured my salvation

Fighting against the TRUTH = modern day pharisee AND seeking to add to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST on the CROSS

Paul said of Christians that if there were no resurrection they were still in their sins.

ABOSLUTE TRUTH, therefore repent and believe the TRUTH

So whatever Christ finished, it didn't fully deal with the sin problem did it.

By your words you will be judged as you continue to expound your ignorance of the Holy Scriptures of TRUTH

You are a seventh day adventist and/or follow the saturday sabbath of the OT = Yes or No

 

[Brakelite]

the LORD Says it is = "Out of the heart a man speaks"


EXACTLY = Your misrepresentation of the FINISHED WORK of CRIST, could not be further from the Truth


Fighting against the TRUTH = modern day pharisee AND seeking to add to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST on the CROSS



ABOSLUTE TRUTH, therefore repent and believe the TRUTH


By your words you will be judged as you continue to expound your ignorance of the Holy Scriptures of TRUTH

You are a seventh day adventist and/or follow the saturday sabbath of the OT = Yes or No

So were the sins of Israel atoned for by the sacrifice, without the priest entering the Tabernacle?

 

[Simonides]

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