Trump didn't place hand on Bible

[mailmandan]

This arguments/disagreement is silly.

Any 'old fool' can place their hand on a bible and swear an oath, but it is the state of their heart that is more important, and since we cannot examine a person's heart to see what state it is in, it is impossible for us to judge the state of that person's heart when they gave that oath.

You are right. It is the state of a person's heart that is more important. Did Obama and Biden place their hand on a Bible as they swore in? Did it make any difference for them? What kind of fruit did they bear while serving as President? (Matthew 7:17)

 

[amigo de christo]

But yours are still not as bad as mine with those, and I take my time. How did you learn to type so fast? Not only that, you stop and capitalize at certain places, you can be posting on four threads (long paragraphs) and I can't help but ask.

Many many moons ago in a time wherein cells phone were these massively huge things
i took typing for a half a year at high school . I think we had too .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know about Kim. That's why I was reviewing it. Either way there was something going on spiritually in some way or another.

But that wasn't what bothered me.

We should also read in the old holy torah the things that occured .
Did you know that GOD can send , allow to be sent , lying spirits .
Yes . And these spirits operated through the false jewish prophets .
OH it can happen . I was always worried when i seen WHO surrounded trump
and how they all convinced the evangelical realm to support him .
YET i had examined trump myself . I knew something was wrong already .
Think about it . The entire realm of PROSPERITY preachers in the nar land
were the ones who PUSHED the church towards trump .
And if we take notice It is written in deut chapter thirteen , IF a prophet arises
and has a dream or vision and what HE says DOES come to pass , YET its to lead one into other gods or etc
DO NOT TAKE HEED to him . I THE LORD have ALLOWED THIS
to PROVE YOU whether you LOVE ME . YES things can come to pass from even false prophets .
Now i knew and know INTERFAITH is of anti christ . AND I do know that BOTH sides are pushing it down to the peoples.
SISTER , something is all wrong . ITS PUT THEIR HOPES INTO MEN .
MEN to save us , YET WHAT WOULD have stayed any kind of evil , REPETANCE .
YET THEY DONT preach repentance , THEY PREACH interfaith and etc . THIS IS A REAL BAD SIGN SISTER . a bad one .

 

[DuckieLady]

We should also read in the old holy torah the things that occured .
Did you know that GOD can send , allow to be sent , lying spirits .
Yes . And these spirits operated through the false jewish prophets .
OH it can happen . I was always worried when i seen WHO surrounded trump
and how they all convinced the evangelical realm to support him .
YET i had examined trump myself . I knew something was wrong already .
Think about it . The entire realm of PROSPERITY preachers in the nar land
were the ones who PUSHED the church towards trump .
And if we take notice It is written in deut chapter thirteen , IF a prophet arises
and has a dream or vision and what HE says DOES come to pass , YET its to lead one into other gods or etc
DO NOT TAKE HEED to him . I THE LORD have ALLOWED THIS
to PROVE YOU whether you LOVE ME . YES things can come to pass from even false prophets .
Now i knew and know INTERFAITH is of anti christ . AND I do know that BOTH sides are pushing it down to the peoples.
SISTER , something is all wrong . ITS PUT THEIR HOPES INTO MEN .
MEN to save us , YET WHAT WOULD have stayed any kind of evil , REPETANCE .
YET THEY DONT preach repentance , THEY PREACH interfaith and etc . THIS IS A REAL BAD SIGN SISTER . a bad one .

We should also read in the old holy torah the things that occured .
Did you know that GOD can send , allow to be sent , lying spirits .
Yes . And these spirits operated through the false jewish prophets .
OH it can happen . I was always worried when i seen WHO surrounded trump
and how they all convinced the evangelical realm to support him .
YET i had examined trump myself . I knew something was wrong already .
Think about it . The entire realm of PROSPERITY preachers in the nar land
were the ones who PUSHED the church towards trump .
And if we take notice It is written in deut chapter thirteen , IF a prophet arises
and has a dream or vision and what HE says DOES come to pass , YET its to lead one into other gods or etc
DO NOT TAKE HEED to him . I THE LORD have ALLOWED THIS
to PROVE YOU whether you LOVE ME . YES things can come to pass from even false prophets .
Now i knew and know INTERFAITH is of anti christ . AND I do know that BOTH sides are pushing it down to the peoples.
SISTER , something is all wrong . ITS PUT THEIR HOPES INTO MEN .
MEN to save us , YET WHAT WOULD have stayed any kind of evil , REPETANCE .
YET THEY DONT preach repentance , THEY PREACH interfaith and etc . THIS IS A REAL BAD SIGN SISTER . a bad one .

I am still hesitant to say, @amigo de christo. Kim did talk about repentence and Jesus.

On one hand, what time sensitive prophecies did not come to pass? Nobody has stated them. I don't know of any. I'm interested to hear.

Also, another issue. A couple of his prophecies I watched didn't make any sense - at least to me. But Kim Clement passed from a brain bleed. It's impossible to say what he was going through.

Either way, as clearly as what did happen, why don't we wait and see?

 

[amigo de christo]

I am still hesitant to say, @amigo de christo. Kim did talk about repentence and Jesus.

On one hand, what time sensitive prophecies did not come to pass? Nobody has stated them. I don't know of any. I'm interested to hear.

Also, another issue. A couple of his prophecies I watched didn't make any sense - at least to me. But Kim Clement passed from a brain bleed. It's impossible to say what he was going through.

Either way, as clearly as what did happen, why don't we wait and see?

As you well know dear sister many often do talk about jesus and repentance
but not about JESUS and REPENTANCE . many love money sister and other things as well .
As far as whether he repented or not at the end , That i do not know .
But as far as pointing to his minstry and etc , That i know NOT to do .
I sure hope he did repent . He might have .

 

[DuckieLady]

As you well know dear sister many often do talk about jesus and repentance
but not about JESUS and REPENTANCE . many love money sister and other things as well .
As far as whether he repented or not at the end , That i do not know .
But as far as pointing to his minstry and etc , That i know NOT to do .
I sure hope he did repent . He might have .

Yeah, there is a video about three things he repented of before his passing, but it's so long I didn't watch it. I'm not sure what it's about.

But I feel like I stepped so far back away from certain things, that that was also dangerous.

I've learned to take the middle ground and say "I don't know" until I can truly confirm or deny. I'm not there yet.

What I can tell you is there is a group of certain charismatics that I do not trust quoting him. I also do not appreciate putting trust in any man and I don't like how a lot of Christians reacted with Trump. Not because of their stance but because so many were involved in idolatry.

"That is not my savior.
That's a politician."

And if nothing good happens and we watch everything fall apart, then we were going to watch everything fall apart anyway.

If you don't know, you can observe, and lean on God. Simple.

 

[Verily]

Many many moons ago in a time wherein cells phone were these massively huge things
i took typing for a half a year at high school . I think we had too .

I took the same typing course, not that that even helped me any. We are likely of the same generation. Sixth months of typing doesnt produce that outcome lol

 

[Marvelloustime]

We should also read in the old holy torah the things that occured .
Did you know that GOD can send , allow to be sent , lying spirits .
Yes . And these spirits operated through the false jewish prophets .
OH it can happen . I was always worried when i seen WHO surrounded trump
and how they all convinced the evangelical realm to support him .
YET i had examined trump myself . I knew something was wrong already .
Think about it . The entire realm of PROSPERITY preachers in the nar land
were the ones who PUSHED the church towards trump .
And if we take notice It is written in deut chapter thirteen , IF a prophet arises
and has a dream or vision and what HE says DOES come to pass , YET its to lead one into other gods or etc
DO NOT TAKE HEED to him . I THE LORD have ALLOWED THIS
to PROVE YOU whether you LOVE ME . YES things can come to pass from even false prophets .
Now i knew and know INTERFAITH is of anti christ . AND I do know that BOTH sides are pushing it down to the peoples.
SISTER , something is all wrong . ITS PUT THEIR HOPES INTO MEN .
MEN to save us , YET WHAT WOULD have stayed any kind of evil , REPETANCE .
YET THEY DONT preach repentance , THEY PREACH interfaith and etc . THIS IS A REAL BAD SIGN SISTER . a bad one .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Our sister from the UNITED KINGDOM is in the building . May the gems flow for all to see and to enjoy the truth of scripture .

@amigo de christo

 

[TLHKAJ]

One Bible was from his great grandmother and the other from Abraham Lincoln. Perhaps Melania holding both Bibles near to the President was a way not to choose one over the other. Both Bibles had meaning.

And yet, he didn't touch them. If he didn't want to choose, then they could've stacked the two Bibles.

 

[Marvelloustime]

As you well know dear sister many often do talk about jesus and repentance
but not about JESUS and REPENTANCE . many love money sister and other things as well .
As far as whether he repented or not at the end , That i do not know .
But as far as pointing to his minstry and etc , That i know NOT to do .
I sure hope he did repent . He might have .

The brothernator @amigo de christo is spotted.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, there is a video about three things he repented of before his passing, but it's so long I didn't watch it. I'm not sure what it's about.

But I feel like I stepped so far back away from certain things, that that was also dangerous.

I've learned to take the middle ground and say "I don't know" until I can truly confirm or deny. I'm not there yet.

What I can tell you is there is a group of certain charismatics that I do not trust quoting him. I also do not appreciate putting trust in any man and I don't like how a lot of Christians reacted with Trump. Not because of their stance but because so many were involved in idolatry.

"That is not my savior.
That's a politician."

And if nothing good happens and we watch everything fall apart, then we were going to watch everything fall apart anyway.

If you don't know, you can observe, and lean on God. Simple.

OH i am very sure men will quoate other men and yet what they taught , was NOT what that man meant at all .
SO i do hear ya loud and clear .
BUT sister i did listen to some of his things . Sister the man was in trouble and danger .
While he might not of been as bad as some , he had no business being a teacher .
Or the cliam he was a prophet .
In the end GOD knows whether he repented or not . WE do not and thus i do not sit As his judge to condmen him to hell .
But i do sit to warn any and all , DO NOT follow that man . Rather just learn the bible for you .

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
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THIS IS NOT the MIND of todays church age . THOUGH I DO RELATE and DO UNDERSTAND that THIS BE TRUTH .
For many have fallen in love with a cares and pleasures in this life god . IT WILL BE A COLD DAY in the lake of fire
before i CAPTILIZE that god . satan knows how to feed the wicked heart of man its own desires
and he will cliam IT COMETH OF GOD , when it cometh of he alone

 

[Marvelloustime]

THIS IS NOT the MIND of todays church age . THOUGH I DO RELATE and DO UNDERSTAND that THIS BE TRUTH .
For many have fallen in love with a cares and pleasures in this life god . IT WILL BE A COLD DAY in the lake of fire
before i CAPTILIZE that god . satan knows how to feed the wicked heart of man its own desires
and he will cliam IT COMETH OF GOD , when it cometh of he alone

@amigo de christo

 

[Debp]

And yet, he didn't touch them. If he didn't want to choose, then they could've stacked the two Bibles.

@Wrangler I think it was explained what actually happened.

The Justice started the oath before Melania had gotten there with the Bibles. Apparently they were running late and the Justice rushed it.

 

[Debp]

Excuses for everything, I’m continually amazed at the apologists and lengths they will go to defend the indefensible.

Go watch the video for yourself. many presidents, including trump in his first term, stacked bibles and put their hands on them during the oath. Utter nonsense from the delusional who don’t even have the tacks to watch the small video clip for themselves and allow others to tickle their ears with what they want to hear.

Oh won't it be wonderful with the Lord? No more silly squabbles.

 

[Wrangler]

Excuses for everything, I’m continually amazed at the apologists and lengths they will go to defend the indefensible.

Leftists. Majoring in minors. The chief justice of the Supreme Court is not good at swearing in ceremonies. He messed up Obama's so bad, they repeated it in the White House to remove any complaint that Obama never took the actual, precise oath of office. For some reason, you want to blame Trump.

Trump is the most openly pro-Christian, pro-Christian Nationalist President in American history. For some reason this is not good enough for you. I'm just glad my prayers for Trump's safety before becoming President were answered.

And for the record, I am a strong Trump apologist. Regarding what you call indefensible, people make mistakes. This was a ceremonial mistake. Don't get you pantyhose in a bunch. In his 1st term, he batted .997 IMO. Yes, there were 3 decisions he made that I thought were mistakes. The "lengths I'll go" to defend MY PRESIDENT will be all the way, in light of the fact that ball players today who hit .400 would be an all star. I'm sure Trump will make some mistakes this term also because, although Anointed by God, he's still human. In case you did not see this article, it is one to keep near and dear to your heart. DONALD THE GREAT.

 

[amigo de christo]

And yet, he didn't touch them. If he didn't want to choose, then they could've stacked the two Bibles.

Remember .
Abraham peace accords
religious tolerance act
Interfaith finding common ground .
Then know and understand , AS I AM SURE YOU DO SISTER , that while most cheer on
what they believe is and are trumps greatest acheivements
That while most cheer on this path to what they all beleive can attain peace in the middle east and in the world .
That while most cheer the man whose legacy is to be remembered for bringing unity and peace .
THAT THOSE THREE THINGS didnt come FROM that man , BUT TO THAT MAN from the vatican itself .
THIS people is being decieved big time .
And what most do not understand is these elites have infiltrated all realms of society , of religions ,
of education , science and etc
And more so what most dont know is , THIS IS THE WORKING of Satan through men
to lead a unified world to the second death on the day of the LORD . but they all believe is love and is of GOD .
NO IT AINT SISTER . but as i wrote earlier , ME THINKS YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS my friend . but many DO NOT .

 

[amigo de christo]

Does anyone ever wonder why o why it was written CURSED is the man whose hope be in man .
ITS real clear to see WHY that is .
BLESSED is the man whose HOPE BE IN THE CHRIST OF GOD for it is IN GOD who sent HIM . Time
for this generation to LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . HIS WORDS ARE TRUE . its man who must be tested and always
tested against THEM VERY WORDS of TRUTH in that VERY BIBLE left to us .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Does anyone ever wonder why o why it was written CURSED is the man whose hope be in man .
ITS real clear to see WHY that is .
BLESSED is the man whose HOPE BE IN THE CHRIST OF GOD for it is IN GOD who sent HIM . Time
for this generation to LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . HIS WORDS ARE TRUE . its man who must be tested and always
tested against THEM VERY WORDS of TRUTH in that VERY BIBLE left to us .

@amigo de christo