The Great Second Exodus

[Keraz]

In over forty Bible passages, it is prophesied that the Lord will gather His people: all righteous believers, and settle them into the holy Land. Isaiah 35:1-10, Psalms 107:1-43
In this second exodus, the descendants of Jacob, plus all those people grafted in and deemed to be the Lord’s people by their Christian faith, will come from all parts of the earth and assemble in a place called “the wilderness of the people”. Ezekiel 20:34-38 describes this event very well. Those judged unrighteous will not enter the Land.

The gathering of the Lord’s people into the Promised Land, must happen before Ezekiel 38:8 & 12– because the Northern army of Gog comes to invade “a land recently recovered from war, whose people are gathered from many nations, now living in peace and prosperity”. This attack by Gog, happens a few years after all the Lord’s true believers have settled into the Land – “in the very centre of the world – the towns restored from ruin”. And will be undefended, trusting in the Lord for His protection.
The attackers are annihilated by the Lord. Joel 2:20

This must occur some time before the Return of Jesus, as then He destroys the worldwide army of the Anti-Christ, who will have conquered the holy Land at the mid point of the final 7 years of this age. Daniel 7:25, Zechariah 14:1-2

Although Persia [Iran] is mentioned as a member of Gog’s host, most are from “the far recesses of the North”. The current enemies of the State of Israel, the Arab nations are not included. The reason for this, is that all the nations surrounding Israel, including Israel as well, will be devastated by the next prophesied event: Psalms 83:1-18, which is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

The Lord will act at the moment His enemies make the mistake of attacking Israel with nuke missies. Zechariah 5:1-10, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, Psalms 7:15

This judgement will not be in the form of a nuclear exchange, as that would pollute the Land, but what fits the many prophesied descriptions of this Day, is a huge Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26 This will affect the entire world, but mostly, the Middle East area. Ezekiel 30:2-5
All of the holy Land will be burnt over and devastated, all the population killed or scattered abroad. Jeremiah 10:18

THEN: Ezekiel 36:8-12 You Land of Israel: put forth your branches and bear fruit, for the homecoming of My people is near. The towns will again be inhabited and the ruined places rebuilt, more prosperous and populous than in ancient times.
This great Second Exodus of the Lord’s people will then take place. There are many prophecies about it: Ezekiel 34:11-31…I will search for My sheep and gather them to the Land of Israel, from wherever they were scattered on My Day of wrath…. they will be the flock I feed and I will be their God.

Isaiah 66:18b-19 I am coming to gather peoples of every tongue, they will come to see My glory. I shall put a sign on them and some I will send out to the nations who have never heard of Me. They will proclaim My Gospel to all peoples.
“I shall put a sign on them and will send some out to the nations”, some of them; must be the 144,000, as described in Revelation 7:3-8 & 14:1-7, Isaiah 49:6

Luke 10:1-12 is a precursor of these missionaries, who will “proclaim My Gospel” to ALL the world. This is the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God – the coming Millennium reign of Jesus. This makes these verses irrefutable proof that the second Exodus of all the Lord’s holy people, must happen some years before the Return of Jesus.

 

[LoveYeshua]

yes there will be a second exodus I agree, Scripture is clear and I was warned of this and also that we are almost in the time of Jacob's trouble.

I am still uncertain as the timing of the exodus, just before jesus returns, or when Jesus returns and rebuilds the Holy city.

Blessings

 

[Douggg]

yes there will be a second exodus I agree, Scripture is clear and I was warned of this and also that we are almost in the time of Jacob's trouble.

I am still uncertain as the timing of the exodus, just before jesus returns, or when Jesus returns and rebuilds the Holy city.

Blessings

The gathering of all the Jews into the land of Israel is the Matthew 24:31 verse. That verse fulfills the Deuteronomy 30:1-6 promise that God made to gather the children of Israel out of the nations where they had been scattered.

Compare the figurative language in verse 4 with the Matthew 24:31 language. I highlighted/bolded both in red.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

 

[Douggg]

Luke 10:1-12 is a precursor of these missionaries, who will “proclaim My Gospel” to ALL the world. This is the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God – the coming Millennium reign of Jesus. This makes these verses irrefutable proof that the second Exodus of all the Lord’s holy people, must happen some years before the Return of Jesus.

There is not going to be a solar event destruction of the current population of Israel to be replaced by a Christian nation of Christians moving there en masses from all parts of the world.

The current population of Israel, which the majority of Jews there do not yet believe in Jesus, will participate in the rebuilding of the next temple, which the Jews will restart the animal sacrifices, not Christians.

Christians are not going to be doing the daily animal sacrifices that the Antichrist will stop.

 

[Keraz]

There is not going to be a solar event destruction of the current population of Israel to be replaced by a Christian nation of Christians moving there en masses from all parts of the world.

The current population of Israel, which the majority of Jews there do not yet believe in Jesus, will participate in the rebuilding of the next temple, which the Jews will restart the animal sacrifices, not Christians.

Christians are not going to be doing the daily animal sacrifices that the Antichrist will stop.

I used 21 Bible passages to prove the Second Exodus of the Christian peoples.
You reply with only your private opinions.
You also fail to see how the Jews will be punished and only a remnant will survive.

It should be clear to anyone reading Revelation 12:6-17, that the Christian people will be present in all of the Holy Land during the end times. John sees us there in Revelation 7:9

 

[Keraz]

I am still uncertain as the timing of the exodus, just before jesus returns, or when Jesus returns and rebuilds the Holy city.

It will be the soon to happen; Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, which will clear and cleanse the holy Land, that will allow the faithful Christian peoples to gather there. Isaiah 66:15-21 says it and Psalms 107 describes our gathering there. At least 10 years before the glorious Return.

The holy city comes after the Millennium. Rev 21:1

 

[Jay Ross]

The gathering of all the Jews into the land of Israel is the Matthew 24:31 verse.

No Douggg, Matthew 24:31 does not say this at all. You have added to what the verse actually states.

This is what this verse states: -

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Matthew 24:31: - 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.​

Please note that there is no mention of the Israelites being gathered into the area of the land of Canaan.

That verse fulfills the Deuteronomy 30:1-6 promise that God made to gather the children of Israel out of the nations where they had been scattered.

Maybe, but not how you have suggested: -

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Deuteronomy 30:1-6: - 30:1 "Now it shall come to pass, when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God drives you, 2 and you return to the Lord your God and obey His voice, according to all that I command you today, you and your children, with all your heart and with all your soul, 3 that the Lord your God will bring you back from captivity, and have compassion on you, and gather you again from all the nations where the Lord your God has scattered you. 4 If any of you are driven out to the farthest parts under heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there He will bring you. 5 Then the Lord your God will bring you to His earth which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it. He will prosper you and multiply you more than your fathers. 6 And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.​

Please note Douggg that Israel's possession of the earth is after the GWTR judgement in favour of the righteous.

Also please note that after the death of King Solomon, that Israel no longer had any possession over all of the prescribed land as set out in Genesis 15:17-21. What God allowed Israel to possess after that was only the Land of Canaan which was promised to Abraham in Genesis 17:8.

In 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, God also warned Solomon that all of the "promised" land would be taken from the nation of Israel if they kept indulging in idol worship. The warnings in verses 19-22 was carried out in 70 AD and the remaining Israelites were scattered towards the four corners of the earth.

Douggg, if you cannot get this right with respect to Matt 24:31, why should anyone else expect what you post is also right?

Goodbye

 

[Douggg]

I used 21 Bible passages to prove the Second Exodus of the Christian peoples.
You reply with only your private opinions.
You also fail to see how the Jews will be punished and only a remnant will survive.

It should be clear to anyone reading Revelation 12:6-17, that the Christian people will be present in all of the Holy Land during the end times. John sees us there in Revelation 7:9

Keraz, where in the New Testament are Christians taught to do the daily animal sacrifices that the Antichrist will stop ?

 

[Douggg]

Please note Douggg that Israel's possession of the earth is after the GWTR judgement in favour of the righteous.

Israel never possesses the whole earth. Deuteronomy 30:1-6 refers to the land once held by their forefathers.

Deuteronomy 30:5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

 

[Jay Ross]

Israel never possesses the whole earth. Deuteronomy 30:1-6 refers to the land once held by their forefathers.

Deuteronomy 30:5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

Douggg, quoting what you believe has been correctly translated is not evidence that I am in error, when the error has been inserted into the English translation that you quoted.

When God told Abraham to go into an earth that He would show him, was it actually about 'land' or about a lifestyle.

I would think that it was about a Lifestyle that God intended to show Abraham and us today, not some 'land' that may or may not support life itself as it could be solid rock, or sand or His fertile field in which He intended to scatter his seeds.

God's words are not always literal as you like to suggest in your posts.

This is why all of your diagrams are flawed.

Goodbye

 

[tailgator]

In over forty Bible passages, it is prophesied that the Lord will gather His people: all righteous believers, and settle them into the holy Land. Isaiah 35:1-10, Psalms 107:1-43
In this second exodus, the descendants of Jacob, plus all those people grafted in and deemed to be the Lord’s people by their Christian faith, will come from all parts of the earth and assemble in a place called “the wilderness of the people”. Ezekiel 20:34-38 describes this event very well. Those judged unrighteous will not enter the Land.

The gathering of the Lord’s people into the Promised Land, must happen before Ezekiel 38:8 & 12– because the Northern army of Gog comes to invade “a land recently recovered from war, whose people are gathered from many nations, now living in peace and prosperity”. This attack by Gog, happens a few years after all the Lord’s true believers have settled into the Land – “in the very centre of the world – the towns restored from ruin”. And will be undefended, trusting in the Lord for His protection.
The attackers are annihilated by the Lord. Joel 2:20

This must occur some time before the Return of Jesus, as then He destroys the worldwide army of the Anti-Christ, who will have conquered the holy Land at the mid point of the final 7 years of this age. Daniel 7:25, Zechariah 14:1-2

Although Persia [Iran] is mentioned as a member of Gog’s host, most are from “the far recesses of the North”. The current enemies of the State of Israel, the Arab nations are not included. The reason for this, is that all the nations surrounding Israel, including Israel as well, will be devastated by the next prophesied event: Psalms 83:1-18, which is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

The Lord will act at the moment His enemies make the mistake of attacking Israel with nuke missies. Zechariah 5:1-10, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, Psalms 7:15

This judgement will not be in the form of a nuclear exchange, as that would pollute the Land, but what fits the many prophesied descriptions of this Day, is a huge Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26 This will affect the entire world, but mostly, the Middle East area. Ezekiel 30:2-5
All of the holy Land will be burnt over and devastated, all the population killed or scattered abroad. Jeremiah 10:18

THEN: Ezekiel 36:8-12 You Land of Israel: put forth your branches and bear fruit, for the homecoming of My people is near. The towns will again be inhabited and the ruined places rebuilt, more prosperous and populous than in ancient times.
This great Second Exodus of the Lord’s people will then take place. There are many prophecies about it: Ezekiel 34:11-31…I will search for My sheep and gather them to the Land of Israel, from wherever they were scattered on My Day of wrath…. they will be the flock I feed and I will be their God.

Isaiah 66:18b-19 I am coming to gather peoples of every tongue, they will come to see My glory. I shall put a sign on them and some I will send out to the nations who have never heard of Me. They will proclaim My Gospel to all peoples.
“I shall put a sign on them and will send some out to the nations”, some of them; must be the 144,000, as described in Revelation 7:3-8 & 14:1-7, Isaiah 49:6

Luke 10:1-12 is a precursor of these missionaries, who will “proclaim My Gospel” to ALL the world. This is the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God – the coming Millennium reign of Jesus. This makes these verses irrefutable proof that the second Exodus of all the Lord’s holy people, must happen some years before the Return of Jesus.

Why do you put quote marks around your own word you have added to God's word?
Below is a sentence with quote marks as though this was found in scripture ,yet the word recently is not found in scripture.

You posted,
“a land recently recovered from war, whose people are gathered from many nations, now living in peace and prosperity”.

If this was a mistake by you ,you should delete the word recently from your post so you don't mislead others into believing your word is the word of God.Below is the correct verse without the word recently




Ezekiel 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

 

[tailgator]

In over forty Bible passages, it is prophesied that the Lord will gather His people: all righteous believers, and settle them into the holy Land. Isaiah 35:1-10, Psalms 107:1-43
In this second exodus, the descendants of Jacob, plus all those people grafted in and deemed to be the Lord’s people by their Christian faith, will come from all parts of the earth and assemble in a place called “the wilderness of the people”. Ezekiel 20:34-38 describes this event very well. Those judged unrighteous will not enter the Land.

The gathering of the Lord’s people into the Promised Land, must happen before Ezekiel 38:8 & 12– because the Northern army of Gog comes to invade “a land recently recovered from war, whose people are gathered from many nations, now living in peace and prosperity”. This attack by Gog, happens a few years after all the Lord’s true believers have settled into the Land – “in the very centre of the world – the towns restored from ruin”. And will be undefended, trusting in the Lord for His protection.
The attackers are annihilated by the Lord. Joel 2:20

This must occur some time before the Return of Jesus, as then He destroys the worldwide army of the Anti-Christ, who will have conquered the holy Land at the mid point of the final 7 years of this age. Daniel 7:25, Zechariah 14:1-2

Although Persia [Iran] is mentioned as a member of Gog’s host, most are from “the far recesses of the North”. The current enemies of the State of Israel, the Arab nations are not included. The reason for this, is that all the nations surrounding Israel, including Israel as well, will be devastated by the next prophesied event: Psalms 83:1-18, which is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

The Lord will act at the moment His enemies make the mistake of attacking Israel with nuke missies. Zechariah 5:1-10, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, Psalms 7:15

This judgement will not be in the form of a nuclear exchange, as that would pollute the Land, but what fits the many prophesied descriptions of this Day, is a huge Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26 This will affect the entire world, but mostly, the Middle East area. Ezekiel 30:2-5
All of the holy Land will be burnt over and devastated, all the population killed or scattered abroad. Jeremiah 10:18

THEN: Ezekiel 36:8-12 You Land of Israel: put forth your branches and bear fruit, for the homecoming of My people is near. The towns will again be inhabited and the ruined places rebuilt, more prosperous and populous than in ancient times.
This great Second Exodus of the Lord’s people will then take place. There are many prophecies about it: Ezekiel 34:11-31…I will search for My sheep and gather them to the Land of Israel, from wherever they were scattered on My Day of wrath…. they will be the flock I feed and I will be their God.

Isaiah 66:18b-19 I am coming to gather peoples of every tongue, they will come to see My glory. I shall put a sign on them and some I will send out to the nations who have never heard of Me. They will proclaim My Gospel to all peoples.
“I shall put a sign on them and will send some out to the nations”, some of them; must be the 144,000, as described in Revelation 7:3-8 & 14:1-7, Isaiah 49:6

Luke 10:1-12 is a precursor of these missionaries, who will “proclaim My Gospel” to ALL the world. This is the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God – the coming Millennium reign of Jesus. This makes these verses irrefutable proof that the second Exodus of all the Lord’s holy people, must happen some years before the Return of Jesus.

PS
Gog does not come against Israel till after the 1000 years is fulfilled and the devil is released from his prison .That is 1000 years after the war in revelation 19.


Revelation 20
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[tailgator]

yes there will be a second exodus I agree, Scripture is clear and I was warned of this and also that we are almost in the time of Jacob's trouble.

I am still uncertain as the timing of the exodus, just before jesus returns, or when Jesus returns and rebuilds the Holy city.

Blessings

The gathering of Israel back into the land promised to Christ takes place after Israel has risen out of their graves and received God's holy Spirit .After this ,then they are gathered back into the land promised to Christ .


Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.






They shall dwell in the land promised to Christ and Messiah will reign over them forever.







Ezekiel 37
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.







Gog comes against these resurected saints in Ezekiel 38 ,1000 years after they have been brought up out of their graves in Ezekiel 37.








Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Douggg]

Douggg, quoting what you believe has been correctly translated is not evidence that I am in error, when the error has been inserted into the English translation that you quoted.

The kjv translation I copied and pasted from is correct.

Here is the same verse from the online Tanach, at Chabad.org - a Jewish website.

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9994

5And the Lord, your God, will bring you to the land which your forefathers possessed, and you [too] will take possession of it, and He will do good to you, and He will make you more numerous than your forefathers.

 

[tailgator]

I used 21 Bible passages to prove the Second Exodus of the Christian peoples.
You reply with only your private opinions.
You also fail to see how the Jews will be punished and only a remnant will survive.

It should be clear to anyone reading Revelation 12:6-17, that the Christian people will be present in all of the Holy Land during the end times. John sees us there in Revelation 7:9

You seemed to have missed the christians in Ezekiel 37 being gathered into the promised land before Ezekiel 38.

They are gathered into the promised land after they have been brought up out of their graves and they dwell there forever.This actually corresponds to Mathew 24:31 as taking place when Christ comes and raises Israel from the dead.

Ezekiel 37

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

 

[TribulationSigns]

This judgement will not be in the form of a nuclear exchange, as that would pollute the Land, but what fits the many prophesied descriptions of this Day, is a huge Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26 This will affect the entire world, but mostly, the Middle East area. Ezekiel 30:2-5
All of the holy Land will be burnt over and devastated, all the population killed or scattered abroad. Jeremiah 10:18

Here you go again with your sun-scorching Earth again. Speculation.

 

[Keraz]

Keraz, where in the New Testament are Christians taught to do the daily animal sacrifices that the Antichrist will stop ?

The teachings of the NT, emphasise how Jesus is the one and only sacrifice for our sins. However; Ezekiel 40 to 46, tells us all about the new Temple and its operation. For mistakes or ignorance, people will be able to make offerings for atonement. Ezekiel 45:13-15
Several Prophesies like; Isaiah 56:1-8, prove it will be the Christian peoples.

How could they be the Jews? They will be gone. Jeremiah 12:14

the christians in Ezekiel 37 being gathered into the promised land before Ezekiel 38.

I agree that the Christian peoples will occupy all of the holy Land before Gog attacks them.
The small remnant of the Messianic Jews, joined with the vast multitude of Christians, from every tribe of Israel, every race, nation and language. All the true Israelites of God.

 

[Keraz]

Here you go again with your sun-scorching Earth again. Speculation.

Tell that to the NASA scientists. They know of the risk of a big CME causing huge damage to the earth.
Of course the terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath, coming upon everyone, Luke 21:34-35, doesn't suit the beliefs of the confused and deluded.

 

[Jay Ross]

The kjv translation I copied and pasted from is correct.

Here is the same verse from the online Tanach, at Chabad.org - a Jewish website.

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9994

5And the Lord, your God, will bring you to the land which your forefathers possessed, and you [too] will take possession of it, and He will do good to you, and He will make you more numerous than your forefathers.

Douggg, you have quoted translations that have been influenced by the Jewish tradition of the land being a "forever" possession and proved that with your quote from the Tanach. However, the "Promised Land" which was a sign for Israel to know that when they had possession of the prescribed land of Genesis 15:17-21, that God had confirmed that they would have possession of the whole earth after the final time of judgement which was a covenantal sign that God swore in answer to Abraham's question in Genesis 15:8

Genesis 15:6-8: - 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.​

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7 Then He said to him, "I am the Lord, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans, to give you this earth to inherit it."​

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8 And he said, "Lord God, how shall I know that I will inherit it?"​

The we have the description of the Solemn covenant that God entered into with Abraham that when they had possession of the "Promised Land" for a period of time of around 60 or so years, that this would confirm and answer Abraham's question in verse 8, that in the distant future Abraham's descendants would be given possession of the whole earth. Daniel 7:26-27 confirms this promise as well.

Now you are trying to apply this prophetic utterance given by God and the Prophets, that their possession of the "Promised Land" was a now prophecy rather than a prophecy that will become applicable after the final judgement when the righteous will be separated from the unrighteous.

Douggg, your reliance on the English translations is leading you just as astray as Keraz is being lead astray with his private understandings of what the flawed translations/"scriptures" state.

All that you have shown is you own ignorance in this matter.

Goodbye

 

[Jay Ross]

The gathering of Israel back into the land promised to Christ takes place after Israel has risen out of their graves and received God's holy Spirit .After this ,then they are gathered back into the land promised to Christ .

You are in the company of many self-prescribed "prophets" on this forum.

I would recommend that you take your inquiry a little deeper in the language that you are trying to make sense of.

Shalom