Dan Clarkston
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This is describing universalism which is satanic.
Jesus said unless a man be born again He ain't getting in to God's Kingdom.
Reckon Jesus lied?
The broad spectrum of Christianity VERSUS the narrow-minded view
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This is describing universalism which is satanic.
Jesus said unless a man be born again He ain't getting in to God's Kingdom.
Reckon Jesus lied?
Dan Clarkston
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No, the devil is not throwing anybody in to hell... he does not have that authority... but Jesus does!
John 5:22
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Luke 12:5
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
quietthinker
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God puts no-one into hell. The devil who deceives people is the one to be feared, not God.
If we believe God puts people into hell, on what basis does he then do it? Is it because they weren't good enough? is it because they had the wrong theology? Is it because they didn't believe in hell?
These are the questions and more we need to find out about.
It is because people know they are not good enough that insecurity reigns amongst many of those professing to be his followers. Their picture of God is more akin to the nature of the Devil than to him who died for them
Marvelloustime
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@amigo de christo Hit the trenches brother. Left right left right. Aim…. Fire…. Fire out those biblical truths my dear brother. It’s an all out war for the souls of men in these last hours.
amigo de christo
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Because we seem to have forgotten something .
There is a way satan twists truth
THEN there is the way of GOD and of the saints who love HIM , WHO use TRUTH to SUPPORT TRUTH .
Allow me to show you what i mean .
Satans version . GOD is love , HE desires none to perish . SO satan then implies because GOD is love
and desires none to perish , NONE Will , dont even have to BELIEVE IN JESUS the CHRIST . wow he is a liar right .
NOW here is HOW them verses SHOULD be used
GOD is LOVE , GOD LOVES THE WORLD , GOD DESIRES the DEATH of none
SO HE DID SEND the SON so that all who do , BELIEVE , reader take heed that said DO BELIEVE , IN HIM
WILL NOT PERISH .
Time for people to stop being a co helper to that which is of anti christ
and speak rather THE TRUE GOSPEL OF BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST , WHO DOES SAVE .
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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many are now infected with what they beleive is the Love of GOD and it has REJECTED the severity and even the goodness of GOD .
They envision a god who will not do as HE said to the unbeliever .
JESUS and the dire need to beleive ON HIM to be saved
has been replaced by a love of this world which implies it dont matter if one do or dont beleive on HIM
they will not perish .
Allow me to remind us of exactly HOW satan himself would use TRUTH and twist it to imply a lie .
For HE can say GOD is love , HE can say HE desires none to perish
and then implies that because GOD is love and desires none to perish , WELL THIS MEANS NONE WILL .
But that JUST DENIED what JESUS said about those who beleive not .
NOW lets use them scrips to POINT to TRUTH not to a lie .
Watch this .
GOD IS LOVE , GOD desires the death of none , SO ITS WHY , WHY HE DID SEND THE SON
so that all who DO BELEIVE WOULD NOT PERISH but have everlasting life .
SEe how satans version pointed to death
AND how the truth POINTS TO LIFE . satan can twist things and he can come in as
an angel of light and yet HE be darkness . SO too can his ministirs .
THE ONE THING man was told NOT TO DO , the serpent convinced them was okay to DO
NOW the ONE THING man must DO to be saved , the serpent again convinces them THEY DONT HAVE TO DO . HE IS SLICK friend .
amigo de christo
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and in the beginning of the creation of man GOD had told man the ONE THING not TO DO . eat of the tree in the midst
of the garden for in the day he did eat he would surely die .
And now GOD again has in these last days SPOKEN unto us by the SON
WHO said TO BELIEVE ON ME , and all who do so will not perish but have everlasting life , and unto those who believe not
they will perish .
ALong cometh that which is of anti christ
and now says SURELY YE SHALL NOT PERISH IF YE BELIEVE NOT . WHICH one of the two
YA THINK WE GONNA BELEIVE . JESUS or that which is of anti christ . Exactly .
By grace i know something , IF JESUS said it , GOD SAID IT and SEEING GOD said it , WELL HE CANNOT LIE .
man can lie , spirits can lie , BUT NOT GOD . let GOD be true but every man a liar . EVERY WORD GOD SPOKE
IS TRUTH .
amigo de christo
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THE ONE THING GOD told them not to DO for they would die , the serpent convinced them TO DO
And now in this last hour
ALong cometh satan TO convince man HE does NOT HAVE TO DO the ONE THING that can SAVE HIM .
BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
that ol serpent is slick and do desire the death of all .
YET HE WHO DESIRES LIFE , THAT BE GOD , TOLD THEM and us what YE MUST DO to be saved . BELEIVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
WHICH One ya think this lamb is gonna heed , are we gonna be as eve and as adam who failed
OR HEED HE WHO PREVAILED . exactly . STICK TO THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL .
The one that answered the most important question that jailor ever asked .
But sirs what must I DO to BE SAVED , BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . stick to that GOSPEL cause IT BE THE ONLY ONE
that can save .
And now in this last hour
ALong cometh satan TO convince man HE does NOT HAVE TO DO the ONE THING that can SAVE HIM .
BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
that ol serpent is slick and do desire the death of all .
YET HE WHO DESIRES LIFE , THAT BE GOD , TOLD THEM and us what YE MUST DO to be saved . BELEIVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
WHICH One ya think this lamb is gonna heed , are we gonna be as eve and as adam who failed
OR HEED HE WHO PREVAILED . exactly . STICK TO THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL .
The one that answered the most important question that jailor ever asked .
But sirs what must I DO to BE SAVED , BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . stick to that GOSPEL cause IT BE THE ONLY ONE
that can save .
Marvelloustime
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RLT63
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Most people are members of a certain denomination because that's where their parents took them and they always went to Church there, or that's where they got saved and they always went to Church there.
Most have never studied the beliefs of other denominations because they feel the way that they have always been taught is the right way
RLT63
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Dan Clarkston
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You have it exactly backwards.... this seems to be a theme with you.
Real Christians have power and authority over the devil and Jesus said Real Christians will cast him out in Jesus Name -Mark 16:17-18
We are told to submit to God, resist the devil and the devil shall flee from us - James 4:7
Those fearing the devil don't know the Lord or what His Word teaches.|
ALL people will appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad - 2 Corinthians 5:10
God is ultimately allowing people to reap what they sown (Gal 6:7,8) those that don't walk with Him having repented of their sins reap corruption and it's their choices that cause them to go to hell and the Lord sees to it that get what they have coming for rejecting Him and not obeying the Gospel
Those that know His Word... have already found it.
quietthinker
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Exactly.
And they were probably told that other churches are bad.
How fortunate for those who were born and raised in the right church.
And too bad about everyone else. - LOL
That's debatable, I suppose. (Origen)
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NotTheRock
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God wants ALL to be saved and God gets what God wants. The Bible says so! Maybe you're a part of the anti-Christ agenda because you deny God's words.
1 Timothy 2:3-4
This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9 esv
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
Isaiah 46:10
declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose.
Isaiah 55:11
so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.
Ephesians 1:11
In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.
I know that they do say that they are born again. they in fact demand that you believe they are born again.
But I know that they are not truly born again of the Holy Spirit in Christ Jesus for a fact !
For I know them by their works ? They have another spirit or spirits in fact.
No one is born again from water Baptism in fact !
Ones own good works are not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact, only them works that are worthy in Christ Jersus are worthy of God because it's not of your self but Christ Jesus working within you !
So we do not take on the Glory at all but the Glory is that of Christ Jesus ! That who we give the Glory to in fact.
Water Baptism is only for too lead one to repentance of your Sin. Then with that is the hope so as to strengthen one towards the Gift of Salvation, for once one is truly baptised of the Holy Spirit then one is on the Path growing in the Lords Salvation !
Once one has been born again you have a bond with and Know Christ Jesus ! as he is with you and that bond can nevere be snatched out of His Hand !
Abiding in Christ Jesus is Salvation, it's not a one off deal, it's enduring !
If one claims born again is a one off, Done deal ? regarding one is going to Heaven regardless ? well that is totaly wrong. because if they have another Spirit ? That is the Issue i am pointing out ? I am not saying that once Saved you can loose your Salvation at all ! but for that some who say or claim that they are born again, They themselves may have another Jesus ? = another spirit is guiding them in fact ! for such idiots do not have Grace in fact and they are just religious carnal dupes, that some of them even think that they can do wrong, in order to make something right ? That's not of Christ Jesus in fact ! for Jesus never did such at all in fact ! but the Satanist who do such workings and that is a fact !
I have pointed this out to such people and they full on outrigh hated me for it ! I do not hate them tho, for i know that they are Lost !
I know what is in the heart of Men who are not Saved, for they are all the same Lost regardless of how religious they make out.
Dan Clarkston
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So are you with the satan temple or some other satanic religious group like the masonic lodge or something?
No Christian would say those that believe in Jesus are not eligible to be saved. Weird.
amigo de christo
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God does desire life for all .
But many reject .
JERSUALEM , JERUSALEM , HOW OFTEN I WOULD HAVE GATHERED YOU
only YE WOULD NOT .
Go into the world and preach the gospel to all , HE who beleives SHALL BE SAVED , HE WHO BELEIVES NOT , DAMNED .
ENough with this other gospel false love stuff .
HE who does not believe the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON , DOES Call GOD a liar .
So its simple . IF ANYONE wants folks saved , THEN PREACH JESUS
and stop giving out false hope that wont save squat .
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