What will the 1000 year kingdom on earth Jesus reigns over look like.

[Ronald Nolette]

If you'd taken the time to read the Scriptures I included, you'd see that the "strangers" who were "not of thy (i.e. Abraham's) seed" had every Covenant right, privilege, and responsibility that ethnic descendants of Abraham had. God demanded and commanded such.

Don't forget that God was not and is not a racist, nor can He be contorted into one.

Sorry but they could not enter into teh court of te hJews. They could only go as far as teh court of teh Gentiles.

Never said Go is a racist, just He chose Israel to be His covenanted people and they still are, though temporarily set aside for the gathering out of the gentiles a people for Jesus name.

He made a covenant with those faithful and obedient to Him within Israel. No others.

Those who rebelled in unfaithfulness and disobedience, He slew. Numbers 25:9

Don't forget that God was not and is not a racist, nor can He be contorted into one.

No He made a covenant with all Israel. You are confusing salvation with teh covenants He made to eh Nation. Things like the Abrahamic covenant, The Davidic covenant, The Palestinian Covenant to name a few.

Never said God is a racist, but He made eternal covenants with Israel and He will keep them to the nation of Israel.

So does this verse, which interprets Romans 9:9:

Galatians 4
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Paul is writing to the Galatian Christian Church, comprised of both Jews and Gentiles.

Too bad you missed it.

Don't forget that God was not and is not a racist, nor can He be contorted into one.

Well you problem is you are interpreting Romans 9 instead of accepting it. But Galatians does not interpret Romans 9 unless you contend that all Gentiles who get saved become genetic sons of Isaac. Yes Paul is writng to both Jew and Gentile. But that does not negate th epromises God made to the nation of Israel. the church has a separate role in the millennium than Saved I srael does. God spelled that out very clearly without the need for some interpreter.

No God is not a racist. He made promises to a specific nation He intends to keep.

Ezekiel 20:33-38

King James Version

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Zechariah 13:8-9

King James Version

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Jeremiah 31:33-37

King James Version

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33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Romans 11:25-29

King James Version

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Doesn't Get much clearer than that!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Matthew 26
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

They were perfectly completed and fulfilled at Calvary.

You are in denial of the Blood of Christ.

When you deny Christ's New Testament/Covenant, then you deny Christ's Blood, because His Blood is the Blood of His New Testament/Covenant.

So show how Christ gave His disciples an uncompleted unfulfilled bloodless New Testament/Covenant which did not remit their sins.

That's not the Christ that they served.

That's not the Christ that I serve.

Sorry about you.

No one can show a negative.

But show me from history where these individual promises of the New Covenant with Israel have been fulfilled.

Jeremiah 31:31-37

King James Version

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
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If it has been completely fulfilled as you allege then please show from history the following:

1. God has written His laws in the inward parts of all the house of Judah and Israel.
2. God is now the God of Israel and Judah and Judah and Israel are the people of God.
3. No one has to teach any Jew anymore to know god for all Israelis know Him from the least to the greatest.
4. God no longer remember teh sins of Israel and Judah!

These are the decrees of the Covenant- so show they are fulfilled.

 

[covenantee]

No one can show a negative.

But show me from history where these individual promises of the New Covenant with Israel have been fulfilled.

The negative is your denial of Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
You claim that they are not fulfilled.
"Not" is a negative.
Your inability to understand Jeremiah 31:31-37 does not invalidate Matthew 26:27,28.
Most of the Jeremiah passage is quoted virtually verbatim in Hebrews 8:8-12.
It is prefaced by Hebrews 8:6 and concluded by Hebrews 8:13:
Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Both verses are expressed in the past and present tenses, signifying that what lies between them was true and fulfilled when written.

It becomes true and fulfilled for every Jew who receives salvation through Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
Which began 2,000 years ago at Calvary.

You avoided this:

You are in denial of the Blood of Christ.

When you deny Christ's New Testament/Covenant, then you deny Christ's Blood, because His Blood is the Blood of His New Testament/Covenant.

So show how Christ gave His disciples an uncompleted unfulfilled bloodless New Testament/Covenant which did not remit their sins.

That's not the Christ that they served.

That's not the Christ that I serve.

Sorry about you.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The negative is your denial of Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
You claim that they are not fulfilled.
"Not" is a negative.
Your inability to understand Jeremiah 31:31-37 does not invalidate Matthew 26:27,28.
Most of the Jeremiah passage is quoted virtually verbatim in Hebrews 8:8-12.
It is prefaced by Hebrews 8:6 and concluded by Hebrews 8:13:
Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Both verses are expressed in the past and present tenses, signifying that what lies between them was true and fulfilled when written.

It becomes true and fulfilled for every Jew who accepts Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
Which began 2,000 years ago at Calvary.

You avoided this:

You are in denial of the Blood of Christ.

When you deny Christ's New Testament/Covenant, then you deny Christ's Blood, because His Blood is the Blood of His New Testament/Covenant.

So show how Christ gave His disciples an uncompleted unfulfilled bloodless New Testament/Covenant which did not remit their sins.

That's not the Christ that they served.

That's not the Christ that I serve.

Sorry about you.

It's truly unbelievable to me whenever I see a Christian who has no understanding of the New Covenant. That should be a fundamental understanding that all Christians have. Jesus established the New Covenant fully by His blood and all who belong to Him are entered into the New Covenant. The New Covenant is all about the relationship between Jesus and His people. Trying to make it about national Israel, as some do, shows a complete lack of understanding of the New Covenant on their part, which is incredibly sad to see.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Never said Go is a racist, just He chose Israel to be His covenanted people and they still are, though temporarily set aside for the gathering out of the gentiles a people for Jesus name.

What do you mean they are set aside? Do you believe there is even one single Israelite today who God doesn't want to repent and to be saved? God hasn't set aside anyone.

 

[covenantee]

It's truly unbelievable to me whenever I see a Christian who has no understanding of the New Covenant. That should be a fundamental understanding that all Christians have. Jesus established the New Covenant fully by His blood and all who belong to Him are entered into the New Covenant. The New Covenant is all about the relationship between Jesus and His people. Trying to make it about national Israel, as some do, shows a complete lack of understanding of the New Covenant on their part, which is incredibly sad to see.

Amen bro. I am utterly incapable of understanding how such perniciously heinous "doctrine" ever came to be associated with Christianity.

It is an abomination of desecration, a quintessential "doctrine of devils". 1 Timothy 4:1

Yet its adherents sit within the temple of the Church of God, purporting to proclaim the truth of God.

I see alarming contemporary similarities to what Paul described in 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

 

[covenantee]

Sorry but they could not enter into teh court of te hJews. They could only go as far as teh court of teh Gentiles.

Exodus 12
48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

What to believe?
1. You
2. Scripture

Hint?

Never said Go is a racist, just He chose Israel to be His covenanted people and they still are, though temporarily set aside for the gathering out of the gentiles a people for Jesus name.

Numbers 25
9 And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.

24,000 covenanted corpses.

Why didn't the covenant prevent their deaths?

 

[Earburner]

Amen bro. I am utterly incapable of understanding how such perniciously heinous "doctrine" ever came to be associated with Christianity.

It is an abomination of desecration, a quintessential "doctrine of devils". 1 Timothy 4:1

Yet its adherents sit within the temple of the Church of God, purporting to proclaim the truth of God.

I see alarming contemporary similarities to what Paul described in 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

It's called Christian-Zionism. How sad and twisted that professing Christians are in support of a nation that hates Jesus, and considers Christians as idol worshipers, because they worship Jesus who is the only begotten Son of God from Eternity past.

 

[covenantee]

It's called Christian-Zionism. How sad and twisted that professing Christians are in support of a nation that hates Jesus, and considers Christians as idol worshipers, because they worship Jesus who is the only begotten Son of God from Eternity past.

"Christian"-Zionism: Kind of the ultimate oxymoron.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The negative is your denial of Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
You claim that they are not fulfilled.
"Not" is a negative.
Your inability to understand Jeremiah 31:31-37 does not invalidate Matthew 26:27,28.
Most of the Jeremiah passage is quoted virtually verbatim in Hebrews 8:8-12.
It is prefaced by Hebrews 8:6 and concluded by Hebrews 8:13:
Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Both verses are expressed in the past and present tenses, signifying that what lies between them was true and fulfilled when written.

It becomes true and fulfilled for every Jew who receives salvation through Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
Which began 2,000 years ago at Calvary.

and none of this answers any of the decrees made in Jeremiah 31.

Your inability to understand Jeremiah 31:31-37 does not invalidate Matthew 26:27,28.
Most of the Jeremiah passage is quoted virtually verbatim in Hebrews 8:8-12.
It is prefaced by Hebrews 8:6 and concluded by Hebrews 8:13:

So then explain it. Or are you just here to mock those who disagree with you! Tell me how I am not understanding the new covenant as written in Jeremiah 31:

You are in denial of the Blood of Christ.

And this statement makes you a liar and slanderer of me!

It becomes true and fulfilled for every Jew who receives salvation through Christ's New Covenant and Blood.
Which began 2,000 years ago at Calvary.

So show that the covenant is to be fulfilled piece meal over 2 millennia. so are you jettisoning gentiles now?

When you deny Christ's New Testament/Covenant, then you deny Christ's Blood, because His Blood is the Blood of His New Testament/Covenant.

So show how Christ gave His disciples an uncompleted unfulfilled bloodless New Testament/Covenant which did not remit their sins.

That's not the Christ that they served.

That's not the Christ that I serve.

Sorry about you.

Despite your childish ad-hominem attacks-you are refusing to deal with the questions I asked. You just deflect, divert and then demean those who do notagree with you. Instead of simply answering the question to show how the covenant is fulifilled.

Your 2000+ year fulfilment is hogwash. gods Word is not written to even hint at a piece meal fulfilment. That is you merely
"reinterpreting" Scripture.

and I never said that jesus gave His disciples a bloodless covenant which does not remit sins. That is you making up things and attributing these lies to me.

Exodus 12
48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Except they never could enter the court of the jews in the temple! Look it up.

They had all the legal, civil and cereminal privileges but they were not Jewish and history has abundantly shown that. Maybe if you studied a little harder instead of using a verse finder, you would know more than snippets of verses.

BTW the passage you cited is all about the passover and who can eat it! Taking a verse out of context does nopt negate what is written for.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It's truly unbelievable to me whenever I see a Christian who has no understanding of the New Covenant. That should be a fundamental understanding that all Christians have. Jesus established the New Covenant fully by His blood and all who belong to Him are entered into the New Covenant. The New Covenant is all about the relationship between Jesus and His people. Trying to make it about national Israel, as some do, shows a complete lack of understanding of the New Covenant on their part, which is incredibly sad to see.

Well tehn please explain the "real interpretation" of Jeremiah 31 which is the new covenant written down.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What do you mean they are set aside? Do you believe there is even one single Israelite today who God doesn't want to repent and to be saved? God hasn't set aside anyone.

Of course He doesn't set aside individuals. It is about teh promises of Israel as a nation! He has set aside those promises to call out of the Gentiles a people for the name of Jesus! this was prophesied in the OT>

 

[covenantee]

I never said that jesus gave His disciples a bloodless covenant which does not remit sins.

So you agree that Jesus did give His disciples a New Covenant in His Blood which remits sins.

What took you so long?

 

[covenantee]

Your 2000+ year fulfilment is hogwash. gods Word is not written to even hint at a piece meal fulfilment. That is you merely
"reinterpreting" Scripture.

So Matthew 26:27,28 is hogwash.

Have you told the Lord?

Does He agree with you?

 

[covenantee]

They had all the legal, civil and cereminal privileges but they were not Jewish and history has abundantly shown that.

Numbers 25
9 And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.

24,000 dead Jews. Slain by God Himself.

Tell us what their Jewishness did for them.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

and none of this answers any of the decrees made in Jeremiah 31.

Is the explanation of the new covenant given in Hebrews 8-10 not enough for you? Jeremiah 31:31-34 is quoted in full within Hebrews 8:8-12. Have you ever read Hebrews 8, 9 and 10? If you want to understand what the new covenant is all about, then read that. You should accept what is written there in Hebrews 8-10 about the new covenant instead of clinging to your own understanding of it.

If you can't even understand that the new covenant was established long ago by the blood of Christ and that all of those who belong to Christ are saved and have their sins under the new covenant, then you fail Christianity 101.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Of course He doesn't set aside individuals. It is about teh promises of Israel as a nation!

Such as?

He has set aside those promises to call out of the Gentiles a people for the name of Jesus! this was prophesied in the OT>

Show me. Your words mean nothing without scriptural support.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well tehn please explain the "real interpretation" of Jeremiah 31 which is the new covenant written down.

Do you have Hebrews chapters 8 through 10 in your Bible? If so, read them and then you will have the real interpretation of Jeremiah 31 and you will learn what the new covenant is all about and how it was established by the blood of Christ and His once for all sacrifice and replaced the old covenant with its inadequate animal sacrifices long ago.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Is the explanation of the new covenant given in Hebrews 8-10 not enough for you? Jeremiah 31:31-34 is quoted in full within Hebrews 8:8-12. Have you ever read Hebrews 8, 9 and 10? If you want to understand what the new covenant is all about, then read that. You should accept what is written there in Hebrews 8-10 about the new covenant instead of clinging to your own understanding of it.

If you can't even understand that the new covenant was established long ago by the blood of Christ and that all of those who belong to Christ are saved and have their sins under the new covenant, then you fail Christianity 101.

Established? Yes! fulfilled? NO.

If you think it has been, then please show where Jews no longer have to have the gospel preached to them for all of them know the Lord.

I understand the new covenant. It is a covenant tha is made to Israel and Judah- a new one. to replace the Mosaic covenant.

All who belong to Jesus are saved! But the church is not the house of Judah and the house of Israel in Jeremiah. No Gentile nation was in the desert along with the houses of Israel and Judah.

I am fully graduated in christianity 101. but confusing the church with Israel is the failure of understanding Scripture.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Such as?


Show me. Your words mean nothing without scriptural support.

Well if we are going to have to answer questions, you answer the one I asked first.

show me from history and Scripture when the terms and promises of the New covenant as written in Jeremiah 31 have been fulfilled.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Here is the covenant- now show it is fulfilled.

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