THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

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David in NJ

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Please allow me to cite a few verses to show there is more than one that upholds different gospels

Peter said.............[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Paul said........[Rom 4:25 KJV] 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Being raised for the throne...being raised for our justification.....different

[Gal 2:7 KJV] 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;

Two gospels here

[Mat 4:23 KJV] 23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

[Rom 15:19 KJV] 19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

Two gospels here
Only One Gospel in those verses.

Why do think it speaks of two???
 

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Verse please
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”


For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.”
 
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No doubt if Peter used Paul's exact wording we would all say it is plagureism.
so if I understand you here you are saying that what Peter preached was only different wording of the same message in spite of the fact they say different things
 
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Especially since you have been shown Peter and Paul baptized believers, and you have BEEN SHOWN all Apostles preached salvation BY AND THROUGH JESUS.
Did you read my post on why Paul baptized
WHY DID PAUL BAPTIZE?

Yes they all preached Christ but show me verses where what was preached was all the same
 

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so if I understand you here you are saying that what Peter preached was only different wording of the same message in spite of the fact they say different things
God created all nations and all languages.

Within this vast array of human dialogue, culture and interaction there remains a universal Truth of God.
This is Declared by God in His Creation = Romans 1:18-20

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.


They say different things
What is the one gospel you see?
The Holy Spirit, Speaking thru the Apostles are describing multiple Promises, Blessings and Prophecies that are all
contained within the One Gospel.
 

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Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
Israel had to be born again not us
Israel was the firstborn (Exodus 4:22) physically but had to be born again spiritually
This message was to Israel
 

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Israel had to be born again not us
Israel was the firstborn (Exodus 4:22) physically but had to be born again spiritually
This message was to Israel
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes,
for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’
26To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities
 

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For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
This is a wonderful verse but there is nothing of the cross in it
Look at the following verse
[Jhn 3:18 KJV] 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Do you see that they had to believe on his name...not yet the cross (John 20:31)
 

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so if I understand you here you are saying that what Peter preached was only different wording of the same message in spite of the fact they say different things
why did you love this if I may ask
 

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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes,
for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’
26To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities
Sorry still dont see how this relates to born again
 

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This is a wonderful verse but there is nothing of the cross in it
Look at the following verse
[Jhn 3:18 KJV] 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Do you see that they had to believe on his name...not yet the cross (John 20:31)
His Name is Yeshua which means Salvation

Listen to what Jesus/Yeshua/Salvation says to you = John 3:13-16

JESUS Says:
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up(Cross), that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
 
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I dont understand how this applies to born again
Listen to the Voice of God = John 12:23-26 is in Direct relation to Romans 1:18-20

But Jesus answered them, saying, “The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified. 24Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much [d]grain. 25He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.
 

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His Name is Yeshua which means Salvation
That is his name but Israel had to believe on his name by believing he is Christ, the Son of God, not just knowing what his name is
I gave you John 20:31 as a reference verse...here it is below
[Jhn 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
 

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That is his name but Israel had to believe on his name by believing he is Christ, the Son of God, not just knowing what his name is
I gave you John 20:31 as a reference verse...here it is below
[Jhn 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Yeshua dying on the Cross was the Prophesied Sacrificial Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.

No Cross = no Salvation

Once JESUS Fulfilled His Mission, all that remains is to Believe on His Glorious NAME = Acts 4:1-12



You must understand that the term/phrase "of the world" includes EVERYONE = all Nations!!!
 
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