Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[Taken]

Appeal to Strawman. You speak religion contrary to Jesus and the prophets and Apostles of Scripture.

Given that the Bible is the authoritative words of God, it is a supremely reasonable question to ask what verse teach what you teach. I’d be embarrassed to have to tacitly admit everything I say contradicts God’s words.

As I said…you demand and want to hear your words quoted in Scripture…
(Get a toddler Bible, to satisfy that need.)

As I said…you have repeatedly been given Umpteen Scriptures…REVEALING that which ONLY Applies TO God…Expressly Applies TO JESUS.

Do you have the power/authority to Forgive SIN? Nope ONLY God can Forgive SIN.
Jesus forgave Sin.

Do you have A Name Above All Others? Nope.
Jesus’ Name is Above all Names.

Do you have the Power To Save A mans Soul?
Jesus Does.

Are you the Power Of God?
Christ IS.

Are you the Life of God?
Jesus Is.

Are you the Truth of God?
Jesus Is.

Are you the Word of God?
Jesus is.

When human men see you, Do they See the Father?
Human men who Saw Jesus, Saw the Father!

John 14:
[9] Jesus saith … he that hath seen me hath seen the Father…

Why you reject Jesus IS God…is not accounted TO me…but only unto you.

Every man shall be Judged according to his own works.

Your works IS Standing Against those who believed and committed their Belief IS Jesus IS God.

And quite simply, I disagree with you.
Ditto @Dan Clarkston.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

As I said…you have repeatedly been given Umpteen Scriptures…REVEALING that which ONLY Applies TO God…Expressly Applies TO JESUS.

I reject your premise.

The basic tenet of the Bible is that YHWH is the only true God, which we relate to as Father. Jesus said the Father is the only true God. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?

Odd that you are unconcerned that nothing in Scripture says it is important to believe in the trinity, reject the 1st Commandment, reject how Jesus taught us to pray, etc. What’s missing from Scripture is telling in light of what it explicitly teaches.

“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh alone!
Beginning of Sh’ma, what Christ said is the most important commandment.

 

[Keiw]

@Wrangler

Disagree.
No Exception.

The Son, Father, Holy Spirit…

ARE:
US, Our…God..

Gen 1:
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image…

ARE: HE

Isa 41:
[4] …I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

John 9:
[9] …he said, I am he.


IS He

Mark 12:
[29] And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Was, Is, Is to come…

Rev 4:
…
Holy, holy, holy,
Lord God Almighty,
which was, and is, and is to come.



Glory to God,
Taken

You are taught to twist Gen 1:26=us-- because at verse 27 is 100% clear 1 created--Prov 8:27-28= 1 created--Isaiah 40:26= 1 Created, not us or we created-----reality= US = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= Jesus. Jehovah = ( he) the true living God= the only one with power and wisdom to create.

 

[Taken]

I reject your premise.

The basic tenet of the Bible is that YHWH is the only true God, which we relate to as Father. Jesus said the Father is the only true God. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?

Every bit by bit , step by step was Good Enough for me…as I was a babe, learning, maturing and preparing for more and more of Gods Revealing….
You are content where you have Stopped Learning, that’s you. I am not you, and I continue learning, and take advantage of Gods Offering to increase My Understanding of His Word according to Him… my option, my election.

Odd that you are unconcerned that nothing in Scripture says it is important to believe in the trinity,

Mans word…Trinity…does not confuse or bother me…

Gods Word certainly Does say to Believe IN God IN Jesus…and a Mans Baptism IS of the Lamb, In the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

If that confuses you…that would be your problem.

reject the 1st Commandment, reject how Jesus taught us to pray, etc

.

Your Option to reject and declare your rejection of whatever you want ever you want.

What’s missing from Scripture is telling in light of what it explicitly teaches.

I read quite Clearly where Jesus Came from…His Kingdom…Out from Hisself…said to those who saw Him, they had seen the Father…said He and His father Are One.
On and on as has been given you repeatedly.

But curiously (from one time Salvation deniers…) not one Scripture saying Those Born Again…CAN become “unsaved and unborn”……

“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh alone!
Beginning of Sh’ma, what Christ said is the most important commandment.

How many Names do you have?
Wrangler…Blanc blank blank ?

Yehweh, Yehovah, JAH, on and on…and Jesus…

So you have multiple names…are you multiple men?

God has multiple Names yet is ONE God…

You are what God calls stiffednecked and stubborn to Trust Gods Word.

John 10:
[30] I and my father are One.

The day JESUS said that to the Jews….they Understood He was Claiming to BE God…and WHY they wanted to Kill Him.

How does that understanding, not resonate with you?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

You are taught to twist Gen 1:26=us-- because at verse 27 is 100% clear 1 created--Prov 8:27-28= 1 created--Isaiah 40:26= 1 Created, not us or we created-----reality= US = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= Jesus. Jehovah = ( he) the true living God= the only one with power and wisdom to create.

You are Stubborn…and rely too much on your natural Carnal Mind, thinking you can Logically determine WHO God IS…

You should HEED Gods Warning…
Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Glory to God
Taken

 

[Keiw]

You are Stubborn…and rely too much on your natural Carnal Mind, thinking you can Logically determine WHO God IS…

You should HEED Gods Warning…
Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Glory to God
Taken

I know 100% Jehovah is the only true living God= a single being ---SEE BIBLE TRUTH = Isaiah 44:6--I ( not we) am Jehovah beside ME( not we) there is no other God.--(Isaiah 42:8- I am Jehovah that is my name.

 

[Wrangler]

Mans word…Trinity…does not confuse or bother me…

Appeal to Strawman. It’s the teaching that is contrary to God’s word. Odd that it being missing does not bother you.

 

[Wrangler]

Yehweh, Yehovah, JAH, on and on

No. Translating his one name in different languages does not mean Jesus is his name in any translation.

 

[Wrangler]

God has multiple Names yet is ONE God…

False. He has many titles. Scripture says YHWH is his eternal name. You contradict Scripture.

 

[Wrangler]

John 10:
[30] I and my father are One.

Doesn’t say one Being.

 

[Taken]

I know 100% Jehovah is the only true living God= a single being ---SEE BIBLE TRUTH = Isaiah 44:6--I ( not we) am Jehovah beside ME( not we) there is no other God.--(Isaiah 42:8- I am Jehovah that is my name.

Jesus is not beside God…
Jesus is IN God!
Whom is IN God but He who IS God?

John 14:
[11] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me…

John 16:
[28] I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world:

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

[Taken]

Doesn’t say one Being.

I do not require your words to be quoted in Scripture to Comprehend..

Gods Word is God, Gods Power Is God.

God opened His mouth and Sent His Word forth from the beginning of His Creation.

God prepared a body for His word..and sent it to Earth…just as God Told ISAIAH He would do.
And Gods Word Accomplished All He was Sent To Do.

God Named His Word Jesus

God Named His Spirit Truth, Named His Power Christ, Named His Seed Christ. Named His Wisdom Christ, Named His Savior Jesus, Named His Salvation Jesus, Named His Light Bright Morning Star and Jesus.

What are the Names you have Named your word…on this Forum, it’s “wrangler”…yet you have other names… Are you multiple Men… because you have multiple Names?

Do you have a Father? Are you a Father, yet called a Son?

Do you even Know WHEN or WHO first called God…The Father?
It wasn’t God or Jesus!

Do you even Know WHEN or WHO God called His First born son?

Do you NOT believe God IS omnipresent?

Do you NOT believe God Can name and Call Himself whatever Pleases Him?…
But you can?

 

[Traveler]

I notice a huge amount of religiosity associated with this subject. Thats the first red flag. Jesus and his Father are two separate persons. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, Begotten not created. God did not send himself into this world he sent his Son. The real question is why is there so much effort being applied to bring in this deception. Seems to be something rather new and it spread world wide very fast. It needs to stop !

 

[Keiw]

Jesus is not beside God…
Jesus is IN God!
Whom is IN God but He who IS God?

John 14:
[11] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me…

John 16:
[28] I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world:

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is not God, he is Gods son. You are being mislead. The Father= Jehovah is Jesus' God-John 20:17-- God does not have a God.

 

[face2face]

I notice a huge amount of religiosity associated with this subject. Thats the first red flag. Jesus and his Father are two separate persons. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, Begotten not created.

You were right up until the red text.

If you remove Christ from the Spiritual New Creation nothing exists and you remove the purpose of God in and through the Son.

Think of it as removing the Head from the Body - The Head is the same as the Body in everyway with one difference we sin and he did not!

F2F

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus is not beside God

Yes, Jesus is beside God. This is what it means to be at God’s right hand.

 

[Taken]

Jesus is not God, he is Gods son. You are being mislead. The Father= Jehovah is Jesus' God-John 20:17-- God does not have a God.

Yes, Jesus is beside God. This is what it means to be at God’s right hand.

You debate Gods Word with God…

Heb 1:
[8] …unto the Son he (God)….saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever…

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[christgal33]

Jesus declared to the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am." By stating that, Jesus is declaring Himself as God,

 

[Johann]

Jesus declared to the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am." By stating that, Jesus is declaring Himself as God,

Welcome to the forum @christgal33.

J.

 

[Wrangler]

You debate Gods Word with God…

Heb 1:
[8] …unto the Son he (God)….saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever…

Not at all. "throne O god" is short hand for OF God. Jesus has a God, who has a throne. Doesn't mean Jesus is God. Also, try reading the verses leading up to v 8, which further destroy the trinity idol as it says there has finally come a day with the boy, today, becomes his son. Profound.