Revelation 9:1 - 11 Who are these locusts representing?

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Earburner

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i figured as much my friend . INTERFAITH is of anti christ . NOT GOD .
interfaith must be fled .
You took away only what YOU wanted to glean, and did not perceive by the Holy Spirit what I said:
"Interfaith is fine, as long as it is being sought after in "the hidden wisdom of God", and not by "the wisdom of men". 1 Cor. ch. 2."
Just on this site alone, we all are speaking to each other by "interfaith".
 
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You took away only what YOU wanted to glean, and did not perceive by the Holy Spirit what I said:
"Interfaith is fine, as long as it is being sought after in "the hidden wisdom of God", and not by "the wisdom of men". 1 Cor. ch. 2."
Just on this site alone, we all are speaking to each other by "interfaith".
interfaith is of anti christ cloaked to look good and for a good cause .
 

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What is earburner doing that is this interfaith thing? I am still not getting it, what is anti christ?
did you watch that video . that is of anti christ .
i aint accusing ear burner of being anti christ , just warning him to have nothing to do with interfaith is all .
No one here is being accused . I am just warning and reminding us all to have nothing to do with this finding common
ground interfaith stuff . its all been a set up all along .
 

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did you watch that video . that is of anti christ .
i aint accusing ear burner of being anti christ , just warning him to have nothing to do with interfaith is all .
No one here is being accused . I am just warning and reminding us all to have nothing to do with this finding common
ground interfaith stuff . its all been a set up all along .
But where is the evil? I shouldnt need the pope to tell me of this evil I should be able to see myself which I do not. Like what has been said? For example, Jesus said,

John 18:23 Jesus answered him, If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil: but if well, why smitest thou me?

I shouldnt need to watch everything the Pope says to discern an evil when its before me.

Know what I am trying to say amigo de christo?
 

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claiming interfaith can be done in the wisdom of GOD
is like saying FORNICATION can be done so long as its done in the wisdom of GOD .
NO DEAL .
You don't know WHAT "the HIDDEN wisdom of God" is!! Though it be present in attendance, It doesn't thrive in any of the denominational churches. 1 Cor. ch. 2.

I and a few here can assure you, it is definitely NOT that of "the wisdom of men", which is ALL the scholarly doctrines and traditions of men, derived from ALL denominational interpretations, thus creating quagmires of CONFUSION,.... also known as: CHURCH-IANITY.
All here are witnesses to that denominational confusion!!

So then, on any biblical topic:
"There can always be more than one LIE, but there can never be more than ONE Truth". - Earburner
 
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Hellooo, "that spirit of antichrist" is in the SINGULAR, but INFECTS the many, which are of the PLURAL. It's not ONLY about Religion!! It's about everyone who denies that Jesus our Savior has come in the flesh.
That always reminded me of that little liar in Kings

And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

Permission granted

Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Shows similarly to

2 Thes 2:9 [Even him] whose coming is after the working of Satan (whereas here it adds) with all power and signs and lying wonders

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
 

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Hellooo, "that spirit of antichrist" is in the SINGULAR, but INFECTS the many, which are of the PLURAL. It's not ONLY about Religion!! It's about everyone who denies that Jesus our Savior has come in the flesh.
Wont argue with that my friend . thus beware of interfaith for it is of anti christ and we have many anti christs
at work in these last and final hours upon earth .
EVERY OTHER RELIGOIN DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST . popey and his interfaith says OH THEY OKAY THEY KNOW GOD TOO .
That is a lie and is of anti christ and beleive me when i write , Many anti christs can wear wool
and use the name of JESUS , ONLY TO DENY HIM . so lets be on gaurd my dear friend .
 

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You don't know WHAT "the HIDDEN wisdom of God" is!! Though it be present in attendance, It doesn't thrive in any of the denominational churches. 1 Cor. ch. 2.

I and a few here can assure you, it is definitely NOT that of "the wisdom of men", which is ALL the scholarly doctrines and traditions of men, derived from ALL denominational interpretations, thus creating quagmires of CONFUSION,.... also known as: CHURCH-IANITY.
All here are witnesses to that denominational confusion!!

So then, on any biblical topic:
"There can always be more than one LIE, but there can never be more than ONE Truth". - Earburner
and what church or what denonmination do you THINK i sat under .
NONE my friend . Them denominations sure did create much confusion .
BUT never forget that satan can even say the same thing and THEN TURN around and get all to beleive
this unifying lie of interfaith . You see HE DOES know how to decieve . HE can speak truths but then uses
that to push his lie . Oh i know my friend that these churches have been in trouble .
This lamb , by grace does read its bible . Beware of men for the deciever has now come
to UNIFY the decieved in all them denominations TO MERGE WITH THE HARLOT HO and her cup of interfaith .
 
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Here is what it says,

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

How denying the Son its central to either not having the Father or having the Father also

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 

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Here is what it says,

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

How denying the Son its central to either not having the Father or having the Father also

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
exactly . but beware for an anti christ can wear wool .
and say things like MR FRANCIS DID at the INTEFAITH MEETING . many lip as do queen oprah wimphrey
beleiving as does this pope and many . OH they lip the name and make the cliam
BUT TURN around and then PREACH ANTI CHRIST MESSAGE . they wolves in wool . and they be many .
Just as their were false prophets amongst the people
so too shall their be false teachers AMONG YOU church
who shall bring in DAMNABLE HERESAYS EVEN DENYING THE LORD that brought them .
AND MANY shall follow THEIR PERNSCIOUS ways . oh yeah , we sure need to take heed all right .
 
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interfaith is of anti christ cloaked to look good and for a good cause .
If you are meaning that the doctrine of Christ is to be considered equal to Buddhism, Hinduism, and many similar faiths, that deny that Jesus, God's ONLY begotten Son Himself, has come in the flesh, then yes that would be what "interfaith" is.

If that be the case, then all "born again" Christians, who are"sealed" by the Holy Spirit, will be leaving the visible churches that invite and entertain apostasy, though they themselves shall be branded as being apostate, by the Apostate churches.

It's something of a "role reversal", to the good of those WHO ARE "sealed in Christ", that none have attempted to think about. Such "a falling away" from the Apostate churches, would not be a negative. 2 Thes. 2:2-4.

Edit: here is the full scripture of your quote in post #272:
2 Peter 2

[1] But there were false prophets also among the people,
even as there shall be false  TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[2] And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

Now I ask you, would you, as a born again Christian, who has been bought by the blood of Christ, stay in a visible Apostate church, listening to damnable heresies??

Though you may not agree to what I am saying, we must consider who it actually is that is "falling away" and why.
Let's look at 2 Thes. 2:2-4 again:
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. [Written 2024+/- years ago].

[3] Let no man [plural] deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that [the] man [men] of sin be revealed, the son [sons] of perdition [destruction];
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he [satan] as God sitteth in the [potential] temple of God [of their own human bodies], shewing himself [through them] that he [satan] is God.***

(***Note: in the Textus Receptus Greek, the word "the" is used and not "that", which allows for the verse(s) to be understood in the plural).

Q. So, the question is: who exactly are they, that are "falling away", and what exactly are they "falling away" from?
A. They are born again Christians falling away from (leaving) the deception by those who are that [the] man [men] of sin, being those who remain to be of "the natural man", who are NOT born again of God's Holy Spirit, who  TEACH, sit and dwell among you in the Apostate churches, wallowing in "the wisdom of men".

Rom. 8
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any [plural] man have not the Spirit of Christ, he [they] is [are] none of his.

1 John 1
[18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that [spirit of] antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists [plural]; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 4
[3] And every [plural] spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 
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exactly . but beware for an anti christ can wear wool .
and say things like MR FRANCIS DID at the INTEFAITH MEETING . many lip as do queen oprah wimphrey
beleiving as does this pope and many . OH they lip the name and make the cliam
BUT TURN around and then PREACH ANTI CHRIST MESSAGE . they wolves in wool . and they be many .
Just as their were false prophets amongst the people
so too shall their be false teachers AMONG YOU church
who shall bring in DAMNABLE HERESAYS EVEN DENYING THE LORD that brought them .
AND MANY shall follow THEIR PERNSCIOUS ways . oh yeah , we sure need to take heed all right .
amigo de christo, I cannot see what anyone is wearing online, I only see words, on the one hand I see nothing being said that is somehow antichrist on the other hand I see you accusing of this antichrist interfaith thing, I cannot find. Its also just as wrong for us to falsely accuse anyone just because you might suspect they will do or have done some sort of evil you cannot even speak to, point out, underline or correct using the word of truth. In the last days there will also be false accusers too. Someone being an anti christ only affects themselves, we are just given to know who are by what they have written to us. I dont see how earnburner somehow pulled an anti christ here.

Sometimes people disagree, or are at various levels of understanding, but it really is best and more productive to copy past what was so evil and try correcting according to the scripture (because that is what its for). Thats much more helpful.
 

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The basis for the concept of Interfaith, has its origins with the Zionist Jews, not the Pope!!
The Pope is only following/obeying the Jewish concept as a true modern day Pharisee (religionist), that he is.

The origin of "Interfaith" is being based on a Jewish understanding, that they call The Noahide Laws, of which strongly appeal to the desires of "the natural man". 1 Cor. 2:14.

The Noahide Laws: (my insertion: how to love "the things of this world" and yourself as "the natural man" (??).

Every "born again" Christian should beware of the subtil words in The Noahide Laws.
Please see 1 Cor. 2:5; 1 John 2:5.
 
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These sort of sound similar, in the wording between these for example,

Rev 9:7a And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle,

Whereas here it says

Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.

And of these it says,

Joel 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.

Back to Rev 9:7 and the crowns

Rev 9:7b And on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men

Speaks of crowned locusts here

Nah 3:17 Thy crowned are as the locusts, and thy captains as the great grasshoppers, which camp in the hedges in the cold day, but when the sun ariseth they flee away, and their place is not known where they are.

These locusts also have a king over them

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Which is also interesting that of Leviathan it says,

Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

And its written of pride that

Prov 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

The name of the king of them is Abaddon which means "destruction" in the Hebrew tongue

And pride itself is also the devil's condemnation

1 Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

I didnt know this but the word "lifted up" there in 1 Ti 3:6 is derived from a verb which means to smoke

Lots of smoke going on must be a fire somewhere. Here is the lifting up of smoke mentioned here

Isaiah 9:18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

There is alot that meshes in the picture between pride which goeth before destruction (which is the name of the king over the crowned locusts) even as we similarly have Leviathan who is said to be the king over all the children of pride .

There is also a crown of pride mentioned here

Isaiah 28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower
Crowns speak of authority
Horses speak of 'speed' to cover the earth = "as horsemen, so shall they run"
Stingers could be 'NEEDLES' = VAXX
 
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Crowns speak of authority
Horses speak of 'speed' to cover the earth = "as horsemen, so shall they run"
Stingers could be 'NEEDLES' = VAXX
You and Earburner should talk about locust vaccines! How did the vaccines torment people for 5 months, those who got the vaccine actually tormented those of us that did not clfh

Alright, Im convinced, I was tormented by them so which side of this thing am I on?
 
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You and Earburner should talk about locust vaccines! How did the vaccines torment people for 5 months, those who got the vaccine actually tormented those of us that did not clfh

Alright, Im convinced, I was tormented by them so which side of this thing am I on?
We can enjoy seeking to uncover the deep symbolism in Revelation

Look at it this way = That which God knows will eventually be made known to us as God desires to unfold the meaning to us.

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 25:2
 

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We can enjoy seeking to uncover the deep symbolism in Revelation

Look at it this way = That which God knows will eventually be made known to us as God desires to unfold the meaning to us.

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 25:2
That was always my favorite verse, you are brother after my own heart on this one.

I always liked this one too, knowing that the scriptures are for our reproof, it says,

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: (( behold )) I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Then ofcourse,

Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

I been talking about carnally type things all day, and this just feels so good
 
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We can enjoy seeking to uncover the deep symbolism in Revelation

Look at it this way = That which God knows will eventually be made known to us as God desires to unfold the meaning to us.

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 25:2
There are many here, that do not know that we are as Ambassadors FOR Christ, in this present Age of God's Grace. We ARE NOW both kings and priests.
Rev. 1
[4] John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
[5] And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
[6] And hath [now] made us kings and priests UNTO God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
 
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