Theosis vs Christlikeness

[David in NJ]

The Sting of death realtes to what?

This is not hard David but you have a habbit of making it so!

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This is not hard, just post the obvious = SIN

 

[face2face]

This is not hard, just post the obvious = SIN

Well done!

So if Christ died to a nature Paul deems as Sin once AND was held under death dominion all his life; what nature did he have?

And more importantly, why?

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[David in NJ]

Right, at last you are getting there!

What type of flesh?

Hybrid or was it your flesh and blood nature?

What do the Apostles say?

Use them and not your own false teachings

Remember

1. Death had dominion over Christ
2. Died to sin once!

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Use them and not your own false teachings

You have yet to prove even one is false - lol x100

He who knew no sin(SINLESS) , became sin for us................simple = even a child can understand

 

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You have yet to prove even one is false - lol x100

He who knew no sin(SINLESS) , became sin for us................simple = even a child can understand

Okay, lets move you along now.

He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. 1 Peter 2:24

How were your sins represented in Christ's body?

Notice the doubled up pronoun? He Himself!

Note Jesus died to sin once and now Christ wants us to do likewise!

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[face2face]

You have yet to prove even one is false - lol x100

He who knew no sin(SINLESS) , became sin for us................simple = even a child can understand

Note for future reference you did not commit to an answer.

This is interesing in itself as most Trinatarians go with the Hybrid nature which as you are finding is a fallacy.

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[David in NJ]

Okay, lets move you along now.

He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. 1 Peter 2:24

How were your sins represented in Christ's body?

Notice the doubled up pronoun? He Himself!

Note Jesus died to sin once and now Christ wants us to do likewise!

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No one can die for their sins BUT you can die and will die on account of sin!!!

Christ wants us to reckon our cursed bodies as DEAD, so that we LIVE by the Holy Spirit
Pretty simple stuff that God came UP with!

Die to yourself and LIVE in Christ who overcame Sin and Death on our behalf.

 

[David in NJ]

Note for future reference you did not commit to an answer.

This is interesing in itself as most Trinatarians go with the Hybrid nature which as you are finding is a fallacy.

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What's ah trinitarian??? lol

 

[face2face]

No one can die for their sins BUT you can die and will die on account of sin!!!

Christ wants us to reckon our cursed bodies as DEAD, so that we LIVE by the Holy Spirit
Pretty simple stuff that God came UP with!

Die to yourself and LIVE in Christ who overcame Sin and Death on our behalf.

So how did Christ die to sin once?

 

[face2face]

What's ah trinitarian??? lol

Maybe you if my spellcheck was working properly, lol.

 

[David in NJ]

So how did Christ die to sin once?

On the Cross - did you miss that?

 

[David in NJ]

Maybe you if my spellcheck was working properly, lol.

trinytarien?

 

[David in NJ]

Maybe you if my spellcheck was working properly, lol.

trendyutopian?

 

[face2face]

On the Cross - did you miss that?

What was put to death on the cross, and how were your sins represented in Christ?

Looks like you're struggling, huh? lol

It's amusing from my perspective.

Just some light entertainment.

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[David in NJ]

Note for future reference you did not commit to an answer.

This is interesing in itself as most Trinatarians go with the Hybrid nature which as you are finding is a fallacy.

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tinyTimaquarium?

triunitariot?

trinitybeyondinfinity = that's it

 

[David in NJ]

What was put to death on the cross, and how were your sins represented in Christ?

Looks like you're struggling, huh? lol

It's amusing from my perspective.

Just some light entertainment.

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What was put to death on the cross?

a LAMB without spot and blemish

 

[face2face]

a LAMB without spot and blemish

Close, at least you have the animal nature correct!

8:3 For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh. Rom 8:2–3.

If God condemned sin in the flesh of Christ, how was it represented in him?

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[David in NJ]

Close, at least you have the animal nature correct!

8:3 For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh. Rom 8:2–3.

If God condemned sin in the flesh of Christ, how was it represented in him?

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uh, let me think a little..........................

i know , i know = HE who knew no sin became sin for us = on the Cross!

 

[face2face]

uh, let me think a little..........................

i know , i know = HE who knew no sin became sin for us = on the Cross!

It seems you don't quite understand Romans 8:1-3.

Let’s turn this around for you, David...

What was wrong with the "flesh" that the Law couldn’t fix?

Consider how the law was weakend by the flesh...

And while you're reflecting on that,

"For he was crucified in weakness, but lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but in dealing with you, we will live with him by the power of God." 2 Corinth 13:4

What is the weakness we share, David?

I'm just loving how you can't go there, it so laughable!

@Wrangler - you would love this interaction with David, he has gone to every verse he knows to discribe Christ, but not one which speaks to his nature. I've got so many more to provide and I'm thinking how long before David throws in the towel lol

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[David in NJ]

It seems you don't quite understand Romans 8:1-3.

Let’s turn this around for you, David...

What was wrong with the "flesh" that the Law couldn’t fix?

Consider how the law was weakend by the flesh...

And while you're reflecting on that,

"For he was crucified in weakness, but lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but in dealing with you, we will live with him by the power of God."

What is the weakness we share, David?

I'm just loving how you can't go there, it so laughable!

@Wrangler - you would love this interaction with Daivd, he has gone to every verse he knows to discribe Christ, but not one which speaks to his nature. I've got so many more to provide and I'm thinking how long before David throws in the towel lol

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What was wrong with the "flesh" that the Law couldn’t fix?

iknow , iknow = animals are lower level creation when compared to humans = only man was made in the image of Elohim

Therefore, a MAN had to pay for man's sins

Now this poses a impossible impasse

 

[face2face]

iknow , iknow = animals are lower level creation when compared to humans = only man was made in the image of Elohim

Therefore, a MAN had to pay for man's sins

Now this poses a impossible impasse

Still struggling David

I also said to myself, “As for humans, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. Ecc 3:18

And Paul

8:7 because the outlook (carnal mindedness) of the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to the law of God, nor is it able to do so.
Ro 8:7.

You are exhibiting a carnal mind in this conversation because you are not able to communicate how God had Victory over this nature in Christ.

I could approach this in a hundred different ways, and each time, you'll respond as if you're groping in the dark.

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