Have you actually read your own link? You continue to obfuscate.No, you are not interested in honest discussion when you quote "minor" issue than get all flustered when I agree with what you quoted.
Over and out.
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David in NJ
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When the Lord saved me 40 years ago i had the option of which translation to Grow on and the Lord led me to KJV.
This does not mean i only believe the KJV but i have found it to be the most reliable and completely trustworthy version.
i now read from the NKJV as there is no need for 'thee' and 'thou' and '___est'
As you know, i use Strong's Concordance when studying scripture for word usage and definition.
Projected emotionalism to manipulate the conversation. Sorry, I'm not playing.
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David in NJ
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What have you noticed from the Gospel and Acts???
The more religion you seek the more condemnation you reap!!!
David in NJ
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Elohim raised up Cyrus for the rebuilding of the Temple
Elohim raised up those who put together the KJV for the building of the Eternal Temple
Elohim did this because HE is in charge of world affairs and the fulfillment of prophecy which is directly related to that which is contained in the Holy Scriptures.
SHALOM
I try to gather what I can from the Bible. That’s all I can do. If I start hating people, it’s most definitely from the flesh. That Bible will never teach you to hate people in the end: people are so worried about their reputation, and status as though we can be higher than Jesus Christ, it’s not true. He is the one to abide in, though or flesh fails it’s funny to watch and listen and read some of the way people treat each other on this website. I’ll be the first to admit it, either way I hate the way it is. There are people on this website if they owned it they would just kick me personally out for having a different opinion. It just goes to show, people are more worried about how people think of them, and how they want people to perhaps feel about them that they are right and they use that like button as a “feeling.” It’s a weird way that the brain can work. After 7 years of coming to Christ and being so far afield as a believer of Jesus having returned. It still bothers me I’m ignored but it’s for good reason, it’s all for God and the benefit of others; even if they don’t understand perhaps yet. I don’t care about being liked, my flesh does. However the Spirit within me just wants to please God. Not people…
And I love those who see differently than me, if I start to hate them, that’s a personal struggle going in on me in my own heart…
And I love those who see differently than me, if I start to hate them, that’s a personal struggle going in on me in my own heart…
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NotTheRock
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Hello @NotTheRock,
A lot of people say they don’t like that man. I just revert to what Paul stated to the people of his day in age.
“And I want you to know, my dear brothers and sisters, that everything that has happened to me here has helped to spread the Good News. For everyone here, including the whole palace guard, knows that I am in chains because of Christ. And because of my imprisonment, most of the believers here have gained confidence and boldly speak God’s message without fear. It’s true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry. But others preach about Christ with pure motives. They preach because they love me, for they know I have been appointed to defend the Good News. Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. For I know that as you pray for me and the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will lead to my deliverance.”
Philippians 1:12-19 NLT
I don’t keep up with many pastors or preachers these days, I still have a fondness for the one who runs a school at www.cult.love. I barely go to church.
One time I heard this preacher man say at a local church near me.
“Remember to pay your tithes for this church you wanted.” They done many renovations since I went there as a teen. I know paying tithes and what not doesn’t mean anything today. Therefore especially those who are poor shouldn’t be giving anything at all.
A lot of people say they don’t like that man. I just revert to what Paul stated to the people of his day in age.
“And I want you to know, my dear brothers and sisters, that everything that has happened to me here has helped to spread the Good News. For everyone here, including the whole palace guard, knows that I am in chains because of Christ. And because of my imprisonment, most of the believers here have gained confidence and boldly speak God’s message without fear. It’s true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry. But others preach about Christ with pure motives. They preach because they love me, for they know I have been appointed to defend the Good News. Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. For I know that as you pray for me and the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will lead to my deliverance.”
Philippians 1:12-19 NLT
Philippians 1:12-19 And I want you to know, my dear brothers and sisters, that everything that has happened to me here has helped to spread the Good News. For everyone here, including the whole palace guard, knows that I | New Living Translation (NLT
And I want you to know, my dear brothers and sisters, that everything that has happened to me here has helped to spread the Good News. For everyone here, including the whole palace guard, knows that I
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I don’t keep up with many pastors or preachers these days, I still have a fondness for the one who runs a school at www.cult.love. I barely go to church.
One time I heard this preacher man say at a local church near me.
“Remember to pay your tithes for this church you wanted.” They done many renovations since I went there as a teen. I know paying tithes and what not doesn’t mean anything today. Therefore especially those who are poor shouldn’t be giving anything at all.
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NotTheRock
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Hello @NotTheRock,
I rather talk openly than privately. Im a person who tries to use the Bible and seek for answers, God gives wisdom if one so desires it. I’m a person who likes to get to the truth at least as close as I can get. I don’t believe what everyone else may believe the problem is when people start to segregate and downplay people and just be downright hateful and mean. All those things come from the flesh. In the end I believe mainly what’s found in the Bible concerning your question. Therefore my question to you would be what does the Bible say concerning those things? May the spirit of God lead you to the truth concerning those matters.
I rather talk openly than privately. Im a person who tries to use the Bible and seek for answers, God gives wisdom if one so desires it. I’m a person who likes to get to the truth at least as close as I can get. I don’t believe what everyone else may believe the problem is when people start to segregate and downplay people and just be downright hateful and mean. All those things come from the flesh. In the end I believe mainly what’s found in the Bible concerning your question. Therefore my question to you would be what does the Bible say concerning those things? May the spirit of God lead you to the truth concerning those matters.
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Eternally Grateful
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so the KJV, and english translation of the word of God. is the eternal temple?
Did I read this right?
David in NJ
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No
The sons of God = living stones
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed in the whole earth, for a testimony to all the nations; and then the end will come.
What language were the Gospel's written in?
Eternally Grateful
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Hebrew, Greek and I believe some where written in aramic.
An interpretation is an attempt to bring that language into a language readable by the people who speak that language.
any interpretation is limited by the language into which it is translated to.
The english language in this area is flawed. as compaired to the greek.
for many reasons, You can not perfectly interpret it in a word for word interpretation (the KJV is considered a word for word translation. so by practice, will carry these flaws)
a great example is the word love. There are 4 greek words for love. each with differing interpretations. In english, all 4 words are translated by one word. love.
This is seen with Jesus conversation with peter.
John 21: 15 (AKJV) So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
Now what you can not see. Is what actually was said
The first tome jesus asked, Do you Agape me
Peter responded yeah lord I phileo you
this went on twice. then the third time, Jesus changed his question, Peter do you phileo me, Which cased Peter angst,,
Now. translating love only is not horrible. And we can understand what Jesus said, But the first time I saw the different words in the greek. it made it so much more of a conversation that was lost in english.
I means Jesus asked peter. Do you agape me,
Peter, unable to say yes I agape you, said I phileo you.
Jesus still told him to feed his lambs, his sheep..
Thats the grace of God. lost in the KJV english.
this is just one of many examples.
Dan Clarkston
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David in NJ
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Dan Clarkston
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Yep, the word being used in the original text is passover.
The Greek word πάσχα (pascha) is uniformly translated "Passover" with the conspicuous exception of this verse in the KJV. It perpetuates the odd practice of William Tyndale, 1526, who translated "ester" which was copied by Coverdale Bible, 1535, ("Easter"), and the Bishops Bible, 1568, ("Easter") which also shows up in the KJV.
"Easter" is a pagan holiday and is not even close to being biblical and neither is bunny rabbits hopeing around hiding eggs for kids to hunt for either.
David in NJ
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NotTheRock
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Thanks Matt. I don't want to hijack this thread with that topic, which has already been discussed elsewhere. I was only curious as to your belief. Thanks again.
Behold
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For the Christian.........there is only Paul's Doctrine.
Anything else is going to be wrong.
There is a reason that Paul wrote most of the New Testament Epistles.
Its because the "church Doctrine" comes from Paul.
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