Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

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Same here
The cry for blood against the true saints will surely come out of this upmost wicked generation
and when it do they will believe they do the love gods will for peace n safety to attain their beloved utopia .
I had sooner be a man in a cave and on the run than to have billions of friends and not know the LORD .
This lamb , by grace , WILL NOT BEND THE KNEE to harlot and sip of her cup of fornication .
But david , do understand two things . THIS will cost many all , but the lambs shall be faithful unto death
loving not their lives . and they overcame by the blood of the lamb and loved not their lives unto death .
WE is about to face a great persecution . But lambs through all ages , some have bled , some have died
for the faith , BUT ALL WHO WERE FAITHFUL to the end , WHAT A GLORIOUS REWARD awaits .
but woe wail unto the one who be moved out of the way and compromises . Wont end good for that soul .
OH its a battle all right . AND FAITHFUL TO THE END the lambs mustbe and shall be .
THE LORD will be with us , AS HE HAS ALWAYS been with all lambs through all ages . TO HE BE THE GLORY no matter the cost .
WE WIN for HE HAS WON . no matter what they do , WE WIN for JESUS has overcome the world . FAITH IN HIM my friend .
 

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To whom is Jeremiah speaking to : the Children of Benjamin and the time period is the coming captivity of Judah, lower Israel.
and all the examples were written for OUR ADMONITION so as we would not do the evil they did .
GOD dont change his mind about sin . no matter what this generation tries to say .
AND THOUGH HE be very very LONG SUFFERING , HIS WRATH WILL COME upon all who denied JESUS the CHRIST
unto all who loved a lie , loved another image of GOD of CHRIST which in truth was OF SATAN not GOD .
we better all bible up bladerunner , cause ITS ALL REPEATING HUGE IN THIS GENERATION .
and MY PEOPLE SURELY DO PERISH from lack of knowledge .
 

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and all the examples were written for OUR ADMONITION so as we would not do the evil they did .
GOD dont change his mind about sin . no matter what this generation tries to say .
AND THOUGH HE be very very LONG SUFFERING , HIS WRATH WILL COME upon all who denied JESUS the CHRIST
unto all who loved a lie , loved another image of GOD of CHRIST which in truth was OF SATAN not GOD .
we better all bible up bladerunner , cause ITS ALL REPEATING HUGE IN THIS GENERATION .
and MY PEOPLE SURELY DO PERISH from lack of knowledge .
wow,,,,such hostility....I agree with every word, well almost all of them. what I was trying to convey was if one reads the context, history, etc.; the meaning that you so vividly pronounce will reveal the plans of God which will bring others closer to the one you speak of.
 
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wow,,,,such hostility....I agree with every word, well almost all of them. what I was trying to convey was if one reads the context, history, etc.; the meaning that you so vividly pronounce will reveal the plans of God which will bring others closer to the one you speak of.
not hosttility , its LOVE . i warn , i remind , because i love and desire none to perish .
its LOOOOVE . see every warning , every reminder as good .
UNLESS my reminder or warning Contradicts the bible . THEN rebuke me before all . Be encouraged .
Never let BIG words scare you . I often capitlize for a purpose , not to be mean .
 
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wow,,,,such hostility....I agree with every word, well almost all of them. what I was trying to convey was if one reads the context, history, etc.; the meaning that you so vividly pronounce will reveal the plans of God which will bring others closer to the one you speak of.
To the trenches one and all . This war has raged through the ages but is hitting a peak and in this hour
the cry for the largest persecution against any and all who conformed not
to the image of the love god , whose love was of the world but claoked as though it were of GOD ,
Will be made . WHEN this cry is made much blood will be spilled against the true lambs who did not conform
to the inclusive image of what all who did conform believed was GOD . but friend , tis not GOD
its HE who desired and has always desired to be AS GOD . its the devil friend . And his men can wear wool .
 
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not hosttility , its LOVE . i warn , i remind , because i love and desire none to perish .
its LOOOOVE . see every warning , every reminder as good .
UNLESS my reminder or warning Contradicts the bible . THEN rebuke me before all . Be encouraged .
Never let BIG words scare you . I often capitlize for a purpose , not to be mean .
appreciate the warm words, and I lay GODs word out directly from His word.
 

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To the trenches one and all . This war has raged through the ages but is hitting a peak and in this hour
the cry for the largest persecution against any and all who conformed not
to the image of the love god , whose love was of the world but claoked as though it were of GOD ,
Will be made . WHEN this cry is made much blood will be spilled against the true lambs who did not conform
to the inclusive image of what all who did conform believed was GOD . but friend , tis not GOD
its HE who desired and has always desired to be AS GOD . its the devil friend . And his men can wear wool .
yes, we are in the "end days". The Church that Jesus built will have those true believers (overcomers) and they will not be touched. Yet, those true believers after will have to lose their heads for Jesus Christ.
 

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yes, we are in the "end days". The Church that Jesus built will have those true believers (overcomers) and they will not be touched. Yet, those true believers after will have to lose their heads for Jesus Christ.
lets examine real closely all that you wrote .
You said we are in the end days . TRUE . The church that JESUS built will indeed have and does have us true beleivers , overcomers
BUT if you think we aint gonna be touched , or if when you say touched you mean WONT be persecuted ,
OH me and oh my friend , Better think again . The true church has often bled throughout the ages
THIS Blood bath i speak about , the only difference between IT and other tribiulations the church has faced
IS , THE NUMBER GONNA be so massive and so fast . We are gonna face hard trials and harsh persecutoins ,
but not all will be killed . manywill , but not all . JESUS IS A COMING friend
and when HE DO , HE gonna take us HOME and THEN lay down the wrath of GOD against all
who by influence of anti christ had went to war against his church . You be encouraged and have no fear .
Better is it , IF IT BE GODS WILL , to suffer and even die for HIS NAME SAKE , than to live a king under a lie and see many
days of riches . that is a fact . Look around .
See all them houses we live in , MARVEL NOT if caves and dens and hills and forests are our home
as we be on the run from a one world persecutoin fest to come against us . Fear it not . No fear . THE LORD is with us
and WILL be with us through it all .
 

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yes, we are in the "end days". The Church that Jesus built will have those true believers (overcomers) and they will not be touched. Yet, those true believers after will have to lose their heads for Jesus Christ.
Bladerunner,

When was the last time you sat and devoted yourself to the Lord in reading and praying thru the Gospel of John or Matthew?
 

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Bladerunner,

When was the last time you sat and devoted yourself to the Lord in reading and praying thru the Gospel of John or Matthew?
what a lovely reminder my friend . Lets all be in our bibles daily , reading , praying , and learning for ourselves .
What a lovely reminder you just gave my friend .
 

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yes, we are in the "end days". The Church that Jesus built will have those true believers (overcomers) and they will not be touched. Yet, those true believers after will have to lose their heads for Jesus Christ.
last days indeed my friend . lets be refreshed in daily bible reading again . be in prayer , be learning , be stirred up
and stirring one another up with all them lovely reminders .
 

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Sure! I read many books besides Scripture. However, a general maxim is to rely on (meaning invoke) the most authoritative reference first, then pivot to additional supportive materials.

For instance, FDR asked Congress for a declaration of war, which they voted for within 24 hours. General Eisenhower issued the command to begin Operation Overlord. Vids capture the soldiers on D-Day storming the beaches of Normandy where the 1st waves suffered 80% casualties. The story is not generally told from the POV of the crabs on the beach. :eek:

I know that your trying to make a big point about something. I just don't know what it is?
 

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Have you read other Apocrypha, Such as the Gospel of Mary?

For Christmas, a friend gave me the collection of HG Wells science fiction and I have about 10 other books before I get to this Christmas gifts. So, it’ll be a while before I get to any Apocrypha.

No can't say that I have. I never even heard of it. What's the gospel of Mary about?

HG Wells huh? I've read quite a bit from him.
 

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No. Not at all.

On this forum, we all have Christ in common and, by extension, the Bible. Other books may not be in common. Yes, I assumed your reference was from Scripture because Scripture also refers to the transfiguration.

The book of Enoch doesnt mention the Transfiguration that I recall.
 

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No, not all. I was just answering the posted questions.
It's fine as a resource. It isn't scripture and probably wasn't written by Enoch.
Enoch was a pre-flood individual. I doubt we have any writing from that ancient period.

So, if it wasn't written by Enoch, what is it exactly? (topic worthy)

The prophecy of weeks - the 10 weeks prophecy from the Book of Enoch.

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Enoch and Holy Scripture

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Should the book of Enoch be in the Bible canon?

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The Apocalypse of Weeks by Enoch

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What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

Even the Holy Bible tells us in Genesis 5:24 NASB95 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. NOW. Can the bible lie? I submit it is possible based on who is writing what they perceive to be the truth, but again NO. As we have been told by "the experts" that the bible is...

The Non-Canon Book of Enoch

...or legends, heroes, mighty people in general. A lot of theories there. That first point though, a lot of people who argue for it mention Enoch Genesis 5:21-24 21 When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah. 22 After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked...


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I don't know about all that. I just referred to the book in what I was talking about. I'm not here to make a case for Enoch or against Enoch. If people want to read it, let them read it. If they dont want to read it, then dont read it.

Why do people keep saying Enoch didnt even write Enoch? Like it means something sinister. God needed Ghost writers to write His book too. Is there a problem with that too?! Lol
 
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If a book is dishonest on the outside, what is it on the inside?

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The book of Enoch says, the Book of Enoch. What's dishonest about that? It is about Enoch so they call it Enoch. You are saying that Enoch is bad because Enoch may not have written it? Don't you think that just a we bit absurd? For all you know, I could be gathering material about you to write a book about you and your exploits...it will be a book about you so shouldn't I name it after you?

Then you could come out the next day and denounce the book as lies because you didn't write it so it can't be true. Lol!

Now you explain how Jesus wrote our Holy Scriptures. He wrote 66 books by about 40 different guys (Ghost writers) and apparently, God dictated it to them because every thing in it holds meaning, even the punctuation and spacing between the words! Over a period of about 2000 years to get it to where we have it today. So could we say Jesus wrote the book, or is that dishonest because Ghost writers were employed?

Oh but it's canonized! What does that even mean? And who canonized it and who DE canonized Enoch? Some men somewhere? Have you ever met them? Do you trust them? I've read books before that I refuse to read again! Other books, I liked them and thought they were useful, I'd even read them again. Enoch is like that for me I'd read Enoch again.
If you don't want to read Enoch, then dont read it. If you do want to read it, go ahead! Whatever you choose for yourself is fine with me Brother!
 
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