Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[MA2444]

Nothing wrong with it @MA2444.

I read Jewish customs and cultures and not afraid to crack open good, exegetical commentaries-they all do-to help me gain a deeper understanding on a particular verse.

J.

Exactly. Have you ever read the book of Jubilees? That's a great book! Is it scripture? No. Is it good, no, it's great! (didn't hear me the 1st time? Lol!)

I think what happened with Wrangler is when the book of Enoch hit modern publishing shelves again, of course the enemy rose up against it and tried to denounce it 15 different ways and perhaps some of that stuck with him? ( I seen all those videos too. if there a specific heresy in it you can bet money that someone would be posting it!)

Some kind of impulse he gets sometimes? Likes to argue about stuff? The girls arent arguing with him for a day or two so how about me? Lol! I think when we hear something bad about a book you must read the book to form your own opinion and discern for yourself if it's true or not.

I aint sticking up for Enoch saying that's scripture (Lol). It's just a book. A good book and nobody who has ever told me it is a bad book can tell me why? So maybe they didn't read it for themselves or something? Don't take my word for it, read it for yourself and see what it says. I liked it. Jubilees too, oh and the lost Gospel of Thomas is a great book too. I recommend reading it.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @David in NJ,

Of course those people where lying in that day and age; therefore it is written. I believe the Revelation was written when the time has come near and was soon. You do good in point those people out. They were leading people astray, but John speaks of the truth and Jesus himself at least 7 times in revelation states he was coming soon. Therefore the question is, who do I believe? I don’t want to seem rude now, but you are someone I have on ignore. There is a reason this option exist. If you respond or do not, I’m going to disengage with you now. I love you, and many others I have on ignore but for my sanity, I must walk away. You take care now. Most people desire me to follow underfoot with their beliefs, otherwise I’m subject to death. Apparently. All the best to you!

 

[Johann]

Exactly. Have you ever read the book of Jubilees? That's a great book! Is it scripture? No. Is it good, no, it's great! (didn't hear me the 1st time? Lol!)

I think what happened with Wrangler is when the book of Enoch hit modern publishing shelves again, of course the enemy rose up against it and tried to denounce it 15 different ways and perhaps some of that stuck with him?

Some kind of impulse he gets sometimes? Likes to argue about stuff? The girls arent arguing with him for a day or two so how about me? Lol! I think when we hear something bad about a book you must read the book to form your own opinion and discern for yourself if it's true or not.

I aint sticking up for Enoch saying that's scripture (Lol). It's just a book. A good book and nobody who has ever told me it is a bad book can tell me why? So maybe they didn't read it for themselves or something? Don't take my word for it, read it for yourself and see what it says. I liked it. Jubilees too, oh and the lost Gospel of Thomas is a great book too. I recommend reading it.

Forget @Wrangler brother-where can I find that book so I can read it for myself? Is it available in e sword format?

J.

 

[David in NJ]

Hello @David in NJ,

Of course those people where lying in that day and age; therefore it is written. I believe the Revelation was written when the time has come near and was soon. You do good in point those people out. They were leading people astray, but John speaks of the truth and Jesus himself at least 7 times in revelation states he was coming soon. Therefore the question is, who do I believe? I don’t want to seem rude now, but you are someone I have on ignore. There is a reason this option exist. If you respond or do not, I’m going to disengage with you now. I love you, and many others I have on ignore but for my sanity, I must walk away. You take care now. Most people desire me to follow underfoot with their beliefs, otherwise I’m subject to death. Apparently.

YES - in Revelation JESUS says 'He is Coming soon'

HE never said, as you proclaim, that HE has already returned = please see the MAGNITUDE of these two opposing proclamations!!!

Many people have the Lord Jesus Christ, the FATHER and the Holy Spirit on ignore.

 

[MA2444]

Forget @Wrangler brother-where can I find that book so I can read it for myself? Is it available in e sword format?

J.

It's all over the internet for online reading or free download. Do a google search for it and download it. It was free when I searched for it and got it, and Jubilees, and Thomas! I might have another couple too? I dunno.

It was available in book form that you can order and sit on your table. That might be a good book to own. I havent yet but should.

If it can't find it now let me know and I'll send the file to you email? I dunno what format it is in. All I know is it opens when I click on it, lol.

 

[MatthewG]

@David in NJ whatever you want buddy. It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. Jesus did come as promised I just believe faithfully he did so to get the bride. Therefore I continue to believe he did come soon. In the face of opposition. You take care now. If I did anything to say anything to defame you, or was rude to you, you let me know. I tried to handle this the best I could in Christ Yeshua. Peace to you.

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ whatever you want buddy. It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. Jesus did come as promised I just believe faithfully he did so to get the bride. Therefore I continue to believe he did come soon. In the face of opposition. You take care now. If I did anything to say anything to defame you, or was rude to you, you let me know. I tried to handle this the best I could in Christ Yeshua.

The FATHER continues to call for the Bride of Christ as long as the Gospel is being preached to all nations.

When the FATHER sees that the Number of Saints constitutes the Bride of Christ, then the FATHER will send His SON the LORD to Return to Resurrect His Bride from the grave.

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @David in NJ,

Will you respect me in just leaving me alone. Many people start to become obsessive as though they need to correct people. Let Yahavah correct me if I’m wrong. That’s why it’s important to pray for all people friend. Some people just need the last word as though they have done a good deed. Will you respect my boundaries? I like to be honest and straight forward, and being authentic. It’s only through Christs strength I’m able to do so.

 

[David in NJ]

Hello @David in NJ,

Will you respect me in just leaving me alone. Many people start to become obsessive as though they need to correct people. Let Yahavah correct me if I’m wrong. That’s why it’s important to pray for all people friend. Some people just need the last word as though they have done a good deed. Will you respect my boundaries? I like to be honest and straight forward, and being authentic. It’s only through Christs strength I’m able to do so.

I like to be honest and straight forward, and being authentic.

Same here

 

[St. SteVen]

You sound like you have a negative stance towards Enoch? What is it about it that you don't agree with or don't like?

No, not all. I was just answering the posted questions.
It's fine as a resource. It isn't scripture and probably wasn't written by Enoch.
Enoch was a pre-flood individual. I doubt we have any writing from that ancient period.

So, if it wasn't written by Enoch, what is it exactly? (topic worthy)

The prophecy of weeks - the 10 weeks prophecy from the Book of Enoch.​

PART 1 OF 2 This could be posted under apologetics because I firmly believe in the book of Enoch (although finding a great translation is not so easy) but the following is worthy of any debate that might ensue. The 10 Weeks prophecy of the Book of Enoch

Enoch and Holy Scripture​

I am currently reading into the Book of Enoch in which he made a little headway into our current Bible... And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are...

Should the book of Enoch be in the Bible canon?​

Wiki: before 3000 BC The book of Enoch could not have been written by the great-grandfather of Noah. To me, this is a weighty reason for excluding it from the canon. The author of the book of Enoch was not inspired by God. Why was the book of Enoch quotes in Jude, yet not included in the...

The Apocalypse of Weeks by Enoch​

The entire period of 7000 years of human history is revealed in the Apocalypse of Weeks. Was this actually written by Enoch? Is it historically accurate? What does it predict about our future? There is a very careful tightrope to walk when considering apocryphal works. There is a lot of...

What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.​

Even the Holy Bible tells us in Genesis 5:24 NASB95 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. NOW. Can the bible lie? I submit it is possible based on who is writing what they perceive to be the truth, but again NO. As we have been told by "the experts" that the bible is...

The Non-Canon Book of Enoch​

...or legends, heroes, mighty people in general. A lot of theories there. That first point though, a lot of people who argue for it mention Enoch Genesis 5:21-24 21 When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah. 22 After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked...


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[Marvelloustime]

Ye shall not HATE your neighbor in your heart , you shall in any way rebuke him and not allow SIN upon him .
Love corrects mathew , love dont lie .

@amigo de christo

 

[Wrangler]

why I would I ever read Any other book than the scriptures? Well, I dunno, I do read other books beside the scriptures some of them are good books.

Hey does this mean that you will never crack open a book that isnt the Bible in your life?
Yes or no Bro, be honest!

Sure! I read many books besides Scripture. However, a general maxim is to rely on (meaning invoke) the most authoritative reference first, then pivot to additional supportive materials.

For instance, FDR asked Congress for a declaration of war, which they voted for within 24 hours. General Eisenhower issued the command to begin Operation Overlord. Vids capture the soldiers on D-Day storming the beaches of Normandy where the 1st waves suffered 80% casualties. The story is not generally told from the POV of the crabs on the beach.

 

[Wrangler]

I have read the whole book and I don't see where it contradicts scripture anywhere.

Have you read other Apocrypha, Such as the Gospel of Mary?

For Christmas, a friend gave me the collection of HG Wells science fiction and I have about 10 other books before I get to this Christmas gifts. So, it’ll be a while before I get to any Apocrypha.

 

[Wrangler]

I think what happened with Wrangler is when the book of Enoch hit modern publishing shelves again, of course the enemy rose up against it and tried to denounce it 15 different ways and perhaps some of that stuck with him?

No. Not at all.

On this forum, we all have Christ in common and, by extension, the Bible. Other books may not be in common. Yes, I assumed your reference was from Scripture because Scripture also refers to the transfiguration.

 

[RLT63]

Merry Christmas everyone!
Hope everyone has a great day.

 

[amigo de christo]

Same here

 

[amigo de christo]

that is massive in christendom now david .

 

[amigo de christo]

Same here

 

[amigo de christo]

Same here

Go to and behold much of christendom for it does now as the jews right before GOD destroyed them .
They honor sins and hold rainbows , they declare all religoins as valid paths . Truth is removed
and they heed only those who preach unto them smooth things .
many cry AWAY with the biblical JESUS , prophesy unto us the all inclusive one .

 

[amigo de christo]

all many now clambor and run as troops in massive numbers to gather unto the harlots house .
And if a man cometh amongst them to bring truth and exposes the darkness
he makes himself a prey unto their teeth . ITS getting bad . And worse will it get .