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One of the books from the realm of Jewish mysticism is the Zohar. Most Christians haven’t read it and know very little about it. It’s easy to be misled when we lack knowledge.

What is the Zohar?

”The Zohar is a commentary on the Hebrew Scriptures and the primary source of the beliefs of Kabbalah, a mystical form of Judaism.”

Were Jesus and the apostles, were the primitive Christians, involved in a mystical form of Judaism?

”According to Kabbala, this text was written in the second century AD by Shimon bar Yochai. Supposedly, bar Yochai was inspired by visions from the angel Gabriel to record secret, powerful knowledge about interpreting the Torah. Unlike other Jewish commentaries on the Torah, known as the Mishna or Midrash, the Zohar is heavily mystical and borders on an occult - or witchcraft-based approach to spirituality.”

That should be a red flag.

“Kabbalists believe that Jewish leadership during the Roman era considered such knowledge to be too powerful for the common man, and so they suppressed it,”

If it is true that the Zohar was written in the second century - and there is good reason to doubt that it is - then these Jewish religious leaders are the Pharisees after the destruction of the Temple.

“According to the Zohar, God’s message in the Torah is meant to be understood at four levels: literal, allegorical, Rabbinic, and secretive. In other words, the more powerful and truthful purpose of the Torah is only accessible to thise with special knowledge and insight, per Kabbalah. This places the Zohar and Kabbalah squarely in the sphere of Gnosticism and mysticism.”

The Jewish monotheism of the Messiah and the apostles isn’t Gnosticism and mysticism.

When a trinitarian (or non-trinitarian) uses the Zohar and Jewish mysticism in evangelism - it’s important to note that not all trinitarians do, in fact, few trinitarians do - then they are falling back on Gnosticism. How effective is that in evangelization? Not very, if the person being evangelized knows what he or she is being offered.

”The text of the Zohar was unknown until first published in the 13th century by Moses de Leon. De Leon claimed the writings to be traditions passed down from Shimon bar Yochai many centuries before. However, modern scholars, Jewish and otherwise, believe that de Leon himself actually composed the Zohar‘s content. De Leon’s publication came from a place and era when Gnostic concepts were in fashion. Also, no mention is made of the Zohar or its contents in any midrash known prior to de Leon’s publication of the Zohar.

Mainstream Christianity considers the Zohar and Kabbalah to be false teachings in the same vein as other Gnostic and mystical cults. The same is true of all major sects of mainstream Judaism, although some Jewish scholars see the Zohar as useful for gaining insight into Jewish thinking, and some use the Zohar to provide additional opinions on the meaning of the Torah.”


Now we are better equipped when someone uses the Zohar and Jewish mysticism to evangelize.

Is the Zohar and Jewish mysticism persuasive to you?

It isn’t to me. Let everyone be convinced in his or her own mind.
 
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Is Jesus God? — Jesus claimed to be God.

Take for example the words of Jesus in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33, emphasis added). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” This is a reference back to Exodus 3:14 when God revealed Himself as the “I AM.” The Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).

Is Jesus God? — His followers declared Him to be God.

John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God.

Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as God, indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. Beyond these, there are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus being God.

Is Jesus God? — The reason Jesus must be God.

The most important reason that Jesus must be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

Is Jesus God? Yes. Jesus declared Himself to be God. His followers believed Him to be God. The provision of salvation only works if Jesus is God. Jesus is God incarnate, the eternal Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8; 22:13), and God our Savior (2 Peter 1:1).

 
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In addition to Jesus’ specific claims about Himself, His disciples also acknowledged the deity of Christ. They claimed that Jesus had the right to forgive sins—something only God can do—as it is God who is offended by sin (Acts 5:31; Colossians 3:13; Psalm 130:4; Jeremiah 31:34). In close connection with this last claim, Jesus is also said to be the one who will “judge the living and the dead” (2 Timothy 4:1). Thomas cried out to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). Paul calls Jesus “great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13) and points out that prior to His incarnation Jesus existed in the “form of God” (Philippians 2:5-8). God the Father says regarding Jesus: “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever” (Hebrews 1:8). John states that “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God” (John 1:1). Examples of Scriptures that teach the deity of Christ are many (see Revelation 1:17, 2:8, 22:13; 1 Corinthians 10:4; 1 Peter 2:6-8; Psalm 18:2, 95:1; 1 Peter 5:4; Hebrews 13:20), but even one of these is enough to show that Christ was considered to be God by His followers.



Jesus is also given titles that are unique to YHWH (the formal name of God) in the Old Testament. The Old Testament title “redeemer” (Psalm 130:7; Hosea 13:14) is used of Jesus in the New Testament (Titus 2:13; Revelation 5:9). Jesus is called Immanuel—“God with us”—in Matthew 1. In Zechariah 12:10, it is YHWH who says, “They will look on me, the one they have pierced.” But the New Testament applies this to Jesus’ crucifixion (John 19:37; Revelation 1:7). If it is YHWH who is pierced and looked upon, and Jesus was the one pierced and looked upon, then Jesus is YHWH. Paul interprets Isaiah 45:22-23 as applying to Jesus in Philippians 2:10-11. Further, Jesus’ name is used alongside God’s in prayer “Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2). This would be blasphemy if Christ were not deity. The name of Jesus appears with God’s in Jesus’ commanded to baptize “in the name [singular] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19; see also 2 Corinthians 13:14).

Actions that can be accomplished only by God are credited to Jesus. Jesus not only raised the dead (John 5:21, 11:38-44) and forgave sins (Acts 5:31, 13:38), He created and sustains the universe (John 1:2; Colossians 1:16-17). This becomes even clearer when one considers YHWH said He was alone during creation (Isaiah 44:24). Further, Christ possesses attributes that only deity can have: eternality (John 8:58), omnipresence (Matthew 18:20, 28:20), omniscience (Matthew 16:21), and omnipotence (John 11:38-44).

Now, it is one thing to claim to be God or to fool someone into believing it is true, and something else entirely to prove it to be so. Christ offered many miracles as proof of His claim to deity. Just a few of Jesus’ miracles include turning water to wine (John 2:7), walking on water (Matthew 14:25), multiplying physical objects (John 6:11), healing the blind (John 9:7), the lame (Mark 2:3), and the sick (Matthew 9:35; Mark 1:40-42), and even raising people from the dead (John 11:43-44; Luke 7:11-15; Mark 5:35). Moreover, Christ Himself rose from the dead. Far from the so-called dying and rising gods of pagan mythology, nothing like the resurrection is seriously claimed by other religions, and no other claim has as much extra-scriptural confirmation.

There are at least twelve historical facts about Jesus that even non-Christian critical scholars will admit:

1. Jesus died by crucifixion.
2. He was buried.
3. His death caused the disciples to despair and lose hope.
4. Jesus’ tomb was discovered (or was claimed to be discovered) to be empty a few days later.
5. The disciples believed they experienced appearances of the risen Jesus.
6. After this, the disciples were transformed from doubters into bold believers.
7. This message was the center of preaching in the early Church.
8. This message was preached in Jerusalem.
9. As a result of this preaching, the Church was born and it grew.
10. Resurrection day, Sunday, replaced the Sabbath (Saturday) as the primary day of worship.
11. James, a skeptic, was converted when he also saw the resurrected Jesus.
12. Paul, an enemy of Christianity, was converted by an experience which he believed to be an appearance of the risen Jesus.

Even if someone were to object to this specific list, only a few are needed to prove the resurrection and establish the gospel: Jesus’ death, burial, resurrection, and appearances (1 Corinthians 15:1-5). While there may be some theories to explain one or two of the above facts, only the resurrection explains and accounts for them all. Critics admit that the disciples claimed they saw the risen Jesus. Neither lies nor hallucinations can transform people the way the resurrection did. First, what would they have had to gain? Christianity was not popular and it certainly did not make them any money. Second, liars do not make good martyrs. There is no better explanation than the resurrection for the disciples’ willingness to die horrible deaths for their faith. Yes, many people die for lies that they think are true, but people do not die for what they know is untrue.

In conclusion, Christ claimed He was YHWH, that He was deity (not just “a god” but the one true God); His followers (Jews who would have been terrified of idolatry) believed Him and referred to Him as God. Christ proved His claims to deity through miracles, including the world-altering resurrection. No other hypothesis can explain these facts. Yes, the deity of Christ is biblical.


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The early-Second Century Second Epistle of Clement opens with the interesting admonition "Brethren, it is fitting that you should think of Jesus Christ as of God."

Question: if everyone in his audience ALREADY thought that way, why mention "thinking" this way at all; and if many in his audience did NOT think that way, why not be definitive rather than hortatory?
 
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Someone might ask, “When were you ever approached by a trinitarian attempting to evangelize you with the Zohar?”

I’ve been approached by trinitarians using the Zohar on this forum, even recently, but they weren’t the first. The first time, the very first time, was by an organization called Jews for Jesus.

What evidence is there that this trinitarian organization associates itself with the Zohar? Plenty. For example:


My advice: Beware of these people. Thinking themselves wise …
 
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Maybe I am not too far off from the OP with my question .

@Matthias , what do you know of the PaRDeS method of Bible study ? As I read of this method I found that was almost the method I was using without knowing about it .

PaRDeS - Four levels of Hebraic Study/Understanding

It’s similar to what I find in Origen; an important figure in the Ante-Nicene period. It’s too speculative to me. I’m a civil engineer by education and practice. The method doesn’t resonate with my mind / spirit.
 
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Allegory is tricky @talons. Using the allegorical method of interpretation, we can make the Bible say anything we want it to say. It’s too easy to deceive ourselves and others with it. If it’s something that no one has ever come up with before then it’s most likely not true.

The Bible contains allegory. What should we do with that?

If we believe the scriptures are inspired by God, then we should trust it.

I’m confident in and about the allegory that is found in scripture. I’m not confident in and about the allegorical interpretations of scripture others offer.

When I’m confronted by someone with an allegorical interpretation, I search the scriptures to see if what I’m being told can be confirmed.
 
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It’s too easy to deceive ourselves and others with it. If it’s something that no one has ever come up with before then it’s most likely not true.
I have seen some of this where the person is all alone in what they think and they will believe they must be right , they may be the only one with the truth . Scary stuff .
When I’m confronted by someone with an allegorical interpretation, I search the scriptures to see if what I’m being told can be confirmed.
Yes , as we should .
What amazes me about the Bible is the interconnectedness of scriptures , just in last ten years or so that I have really focused on that .
You might find what is at this link of interest , click the links in the Breakthrough box .
The Institute of Midrashic Studies of the New Testament
 
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I was reading Jesus last night and when I came to this passage, my mind suddenly paused; the Zohar came to mind. The passage I was reading:

”I know what you’ve been doing. Look! I have put in front of you an open door that no one can shut. You have only a little strength, but you have obeyed my word and have not denied my name. I will make those who belong to the synagogue of Satan - those who claim to be Jews and aren’t, but are lying - come and bow down at your feet. Then they will realize that I have loved you.”

(Revelation 3:8–9, ISV)

The Zohar comes to us from the synagogue of Satan. It was introduced to me many years ago by Jews for Jesus. It has also been used by others - in the past and recently - in efforts to evangelize me.

The spirit of Jesus - “the words that I speak to you are spirit and life” (John 6:63) - is not the spirit of the Zohar. The Zohar is from another spirit. It is not from God.

”Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”

(1 John 4:1, ESV)

P.S.

To be perfectly clear, what I’m saying is this: the spirit of the Zohar is the spirit of Satan.

As always, let everyone be convinced in his or her own mind.
 
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I was thinking about why the Zohar is typically used in evangelizing Jews, not gentiles. The source of the Zohar is Jewish mysticism, not Jesus and the apostles (who are Jews). Jewish mysticism is of interest to some Jews but of less interest to gentiles. It is a Jewish occultic work used by very few Christians (we should all be thankful for that) in an attempt to persuade Jewish monotheists.

Why are some (I want to strongly emphasize that point) Christians holding up the Zohar to me? It’s simple, really: I’m a Jewish monotheist.

Why isn’t it effective? They are using the work of an unbelieving Jewish monotheist (the author of the Zohar) in their appeal to me, a Jewish monotheist who believes that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Son of the living God.
 

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“The unity of God, the Zohar teaches us, depends upon the prayer of humanity. The fate of God, therefore, so to say, is placed in the hands of the just ones, …”

(Jewish Monotheism and Christian Trinitarian Doctrine: A Dialogue by Pinchas Lapide and Jurgen Moltmann, p. 32)

The Zohar is not something believing Jewish monotheists should be playing around with.

Most trinitarians don’t. A few trinitarians do.
 

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One of the books from the realm of Jewish mysticism is the Zohar. Most Christians haven’t read

Yeah because.... it's mysticism which is demonic and is not God's Word. clueless-doh.gif




Were Jesus and the apostles, were the primitive Christians, involved in a mystical form of Judaism?

No, they were not followers of doctrines of demons disagree.gif
 

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Some trinitarians believe it teaches the doctrine of the Trinity. I was approached again yesterday by one on this forum who does.

God's Word teaches He is 3... and yet 1

Those that don't believe what God says about Himself in His Word... are primed by the devil for deception agree.gif

He can get them to believe all kinds of malarkey funny.gif
 

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No, they were not followers of doctrines of demons View attachment 56037

That’s right. The Zohar contains the doctrines of demons.

The Zohar doesn’t teach Jewish monotheism, nor does it teach the doctrine of the Trinity.

”Does the Zohar (main text of Kabbalah) include the Christian Trinity? … Kabbalah goes beyond saying that God is Three … there are said to be ten divine emanations (sefirot) through which God interacts with the world.”


As much as some non-trinitarians (and trinitarians - wow!) might like to believe that the Zohar teaches the Trinity, it doesn’t.

The devil and the demons aren’t trinitarians; they’re unitarians, and they inspired a work that isn’t compatible with the Jewish monotheism of the prophets, the Messiah, the apostles, and the primitive Christians.

The Zohar isn’t a trinitarian work; it’s a non-trinitarian Jewish work.

The doctrine of the Trinity comes to us from the Church. There are many good Church history books documenting the post-biblical formation / formulation of the doctrine / dogma.
 

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“Little children, guard yourselves from idols.”

(1 John 5:21, NASB)

The Zohar offers us an idol. That’s the work of the devil and the demons; it’s darkness, not light.

Guard yourselves from idols, and don’t hold out idols to others when evangelizing.

”Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?”

(2 Corinthians 6:14, NASB)

I cannot be persuaded by the Zohar. What about you, the reader?
 
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Scripture was written by Jewish monotheists.

No, Jesus Christ thru the Holy Ghost is responsible for the content of God's written word.



Can you be persuaded that the Zohar teaches the doctrine of the Trinity?

I don't sit under demonic teaching... but the New Testament teaches the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these are ONE

Those listening to 'ol slewfoot don't accept the whole counsel of God which is why6 they be all confused n stuff.



The Zohar doesn’t teach Jewish monotheism, nor does it teach the doctrine of the Trinity.

Who cares what the zobar teaches anyhow?

You should be studying God's Word. agree.gif
 

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No, Jesus Christ thru the Holy Ghost is responsible for the content of God's written word.

I don't sit under demonic teaching... but the New Testament teaches the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these are ONE

Those listening to 'ol slewfoot don't accept the whole counsel of God which is why6 they be all confused n stuff.

Who cares what the zobar teaches anyhow?

You should be studying God's Word. View attachment 56078

Who cares? I care.

The trinitarian member who approached me with it wrote: “I can help readers access to the Talmuds and the Zohar for free.”

There are a few trinitarian ministries that use it as an evangelism tool.

I’m not opposed to anyone reading it and I’m not the only one he and they will come to with it. Readers should be equipped to handle it.

I’ve done what I can to raise awareness about what the Zohar and Jewish mysticism teaches in this thread in order to alert and warn others of the danger.