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David in NJ

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Not the point David..if they were Born Again it would be written..you talk nonsense..show me scripture David, you can’t,.therefore you make assumptions and lie..don’t add your assumptions to Gods word, he won’t allow it.
Where in scripture did God say they were NOT Born-Again???
 
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But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

12“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He [c]will take of Mine and declare it to you.
Once again David all you do is post scripture, no living testimony from the Holy Spirit what soever...you can’t explain Born Of God that his seed remains in us, I’ve asked you countless times, yet you have the cheek to accuse the JWS of false doctrine, LOL

No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the testimony of the Living Holy Spirit.

We need him in our spirit, our spirit must be birthed David?bringing scripture to our understanding by the power of the Spirit to our spirit.

Without him we are nothing and know nothing, we are spirit children do you understand that?
 
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Where in scripture did God say they were NOT Born-Again???
God does not say they were Born Again, stop making yourself look silly David.

Scripture is what I stand on and there is nowhere in the word that says they are Born Again..you assume that they were..you can’t do that David..for it is not written that they were Born Again.
 

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Once again David all you do is post scripture, no living testimony from the Holy Spirit what soever...you can’t explain Born Of God that his seed remains in us, I’ve asked you countless times, yet you have the cheek to accuse the JWS of false doctrine, LOL

No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the testimony of the Living Holy Spirit.

We need him in our spirit, bringing scripture to our understanding.

Without him we are nothing and know nothing, we are spirit children do you understand that?
YEP - exactly what i and @amigo de christo and @Scott Downey have been posting on here all along for years
God does not say they were Born Again, stop making yourself look silly David.

Scripture is what I stand on and there is nowhere in the word that says they are Born Again..you assume that they were..you can’t do that David..
Ritajanice says: "God does not say they were Born Again"

TRUTH Challenge = Where does God say they were NOT Born-Again
 
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YEP - exactly what i and @amigo de christo and @Scott Downey have been posting on here all along for years

Ritajanice says: "God does not say they were Born Again"

TRUTH Challenge = Where does God say they were NOT Born-Again
No David ..Rita says..nowhere in the word does it say that these men were Born Again..God is quiet on that...nothing there to validate your false assumptions that they were Born Again...absolutely nothing...just your own words adding Born Again to these men.

I won’t be continuing this argument with you David, I stand on the word of truth....100% and everything that I posted ..good day David.
 

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No David ..Rita says..nowhere in the word does it say that these men were Born Again..God is quiet on that...nothing there to validate your false assumptions that they were Born Again...absolutely nothing...just your own words adding to Born Again to these men.
Go write your own gospel and book on how the spirit tells you the truth apart from God's word and you will have millions of followers - guaranteed
 

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Go write your own gospel and book on how the spirit tells you the truth apart from God's word
Gods word is Alive and Active in our hearts, that’s the part that you don’t understand I’m afraid.

Remember we are to seek God out with our heart David..not through the scriptures.the scripture confirms what I just said.
and you will have millions of followers - guaranteed
Good day David..once again @Wrangler @Aunty Jane @TheHC ..he has evaded most of my questions ..I hope you have better luck with yours that you have for him..getting answers from him, is like prizing sardines out of a can, that’s only been partly opened by a can opener.
 

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@Ritajanice Here's an explanation of what you might be seeking in scripture RJ.

A meaning of Born of God and that his seed remains in us.
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According to 1 John 3:9, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (or nature) remains in us. This concept is further explained in the passage:

God’s seed is likened to a natural seed that is planted in the ground, requiring time to germinate and grow (Mark 4:26-29).

When God’s Word is planted in our hearts, it produces spiritual growth and fruit (Luke 8:15).

As believers, we are expected to reflect God’s characteristics, and His seed (or nature) remains in us, influencing our thoughts, desires, and actions (2 Corinthians 5:9; Colossians 1:10).

The phrase “his seed remains in us” implies a permanent and ongoing presence of God’s nature within us.

This seed:

Prevents believers from continuing in sin (1 John 3:9). While believers still struggle with sin, the presence of God’s seed in them enables them to resist and overcome sin’s power (Romans 6:1-2).

Enables believers to produce spiritual fruit, demonstrating their relationship with God (John 15:5).

Empowers believers to live a life pleasing to God, as they surrender to the Holy Spirit’s guidance and transformation (Ephesians 2:10).

In summary, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (nature) remains in us, influencing our lives and enabling us to:

- Resist sin
- Produce spiritual fruit
- Live a life pleasing to God

This concept emphasizes the transformative power of God’s Word and the ongoing presence of His Spirit in the lives of believers, guiding and directing them toward spiritual maturity and conformity to Christ’s likeness.
 
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@Ritajanice Here's an explanation of what you might be seeking in scripture RJ.

A meaning of Born of God and that his seed remains in us.
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According to 1 John 3:9, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (or nature) remains in us. This concept is further explained in the passage:

God’s seed is likened to a natural seed that is planted in the ground, requiring time to germinate and grow (Mark 4:26-29).

When God’s Word is planted in our hearts, it produces spiritual growth and fruit (Luke 8:15).

As believers, we are expected to reflect God’s characteristics, and His seed (or nature) remains in us, influencing our thoughts, desires, and actions (2 Corinthians 5:9; Colossians 1:10).

The phrase “his seed remains in us” implies a permanent and ongoing presence of God’s nature within us.

This seed:

Prevents believers from continuing in sin (1 John 3:9). While believers still struggle with sin, the presence of God’s seed in them enables them to resist and overcome sin’s power (Romans 6:1-2).

Enables believers to produce spiritual fruit, demonstrating their relationship with God (John 15:5).

Empowers believers to live a life pleasing to God, as they surrender to the Holy Spirit’s guidance and transformation (Ephesians 2:10).

In summary, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (nature) remains in us, influencing our lives and enabling us to:

- Resist sin
- Produce spiritual fruit
- Live a life pleasing to God

This concept emphasizes the transformative power of God’s Word and the ongoing presence of His Spirit in the lives of believers, guiding and directing them toward spiritual maturity and conformity to Christ’s likeness.

Very easy to understand ....

Mark 1:8. Romans 8:16 tells us the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God. Through the Spirit of God in you, HE TESTIFIES TO YOU. He leads you to life and peace, not confusion and disorder and death


Don’t listen to man only listen to the testifying of the Spirit to your spirit.

There is much i still have to learn of Gods heart, I see it out most of the day.
 
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David in NJ

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@Ritajanice Here's an explanation of what you might be seeking in scripture RJ.

A meaning of Born of God and that his seed remains in us.
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According to 1 John 3:9, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (or nature) remains in us. This concept is further explained in the passage:

God’s seed is likened to a natural seed that is planted in the ground, requiring time to germinate and grow (Mark 4:26-29).

When God’s Word is planted in our hearts, it produces spiritual growth and fruit (Luke 8:15).

As believers, we are expected to reflect God’s characteristics, and His seed (or nature) remains in us, influencing our thoughts, desires, and actions (2 Corinthians 5:9; Colossians 1:10).

The phrase “his seed remains in us” implies a permanent and ongoing presence of God’s nature within us.

This seed:

Prevents believers from continuing in sin (1 John 3:9). While believers still struggle with sin, the presence of God’s seed in them enables them to resist and overcome sin’s power (Romans 6:1-2).

Enables believers to produce spiritual fruit, demonstrating their relationship with God (John 15:5).

Empowers believers to live a life pleasing to God, as they surrender to the Holy Spirit’s guidance and transformation (Ephesians 2:10).

In summary, being “born of God” means that God’s seed (nature) remains in us, influencing our lives and enabling us to:

- Resist sin
- Produce spiritual fruit
- Live a life pleasing to God

This concept emphasizes the transformative power of God’s Word and the ongoing presence of His Spirit in the lives of believers, guiding and directing them toward spiritual maturity and conformity to Christ’s likeness.
And God's Seed is His Word
Yes/No?
 

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Scripture please?

Same to you..you only want to assume they were Born Again..

Why do you keep evading my questions?

I don’t believe one word you say,all you’ve done is voice your opinion..with no scriptural evidence to back up your claim/ opinions.
All those chosen before the foundation of the world (the Elect) have already obtained salvation.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 (NKJV) 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 

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Very easy to understand ....

Mark 1:8. Romans 8:16 tells us the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God. Through the Spirit of God in you, HE TESTIFIES TO YOU. He leads you to life and peace, not confusion and disorder and death


Don’t listen to man only listen to the testifying of the Spirit to your spirit.

There is much i still have to learn of Gods heart, I see it out most of the day.
Amen, and now we can move beyond this definition and this infant state RJ, and its scripture, and now grow into maturity...
 

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And God's Seed is His Word
Yes/No?
God’s seed is a Living seed..it penetrates my heart /spirit, there he has taken up residence , as I was chosen, predestined to become a child of God.

Born Again of imperishable seed, that liveth and abideth forever.

In my heart / spirit...never ever to leave, all by = supernatural divine heart revelation.
 
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