Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

So you say. I’m OK with discussing how anyone triumphed over the evil ideology of feminism.

*I* don't say. Wynona, as the OP says.

She did not limit the discussion to those who have 'triumphed over feminism." She already understood that not everyone would agree with her. At no time did Wynona say, "Tell me how *YOU* have triumphed over Feminism!"

Maybe go through this thread and read it again...

 

[Naomanos]

So you say. I’m OK with discussing how anyone triumphed over the evil ideology of feminism.

Which you are free to do. As we are free to discuss what we’re discussing as it is on-topic.

 

[Skovand]

Your wish is my command, M'Lady!

From the link: (It's only 6 pages long, including a page of references. Pretty fast reading)

"Most of the couples (81%) where both spouses perceived the relationship as equalitarian (i.e. egalitarian) were happily married, while most of the couples (82%) where both spouses perceived their as relationship as traditional (i.e. hierarchical) were mainly unhappy. [12"

"the inequality experienced by women was a primary cause of unhappiness leading to the break up of marriages. [17]"

https://empowerinternational.org/wp-content/uploads/Egalitarian-Marriages-Prove-Happier-than-Hierarchical-Marriages.pdf

Oh, and, just in case there's any question about the author's possible bias,

Support for Egalitarian Marriage

It’s what me and my girlfriend’s relationship essentially is. We are equals. I can’t imagine a nontoxic version where I somehow have power
Over her. Not even really sure what that looks like. I would just demand she did what I wanted? Seems toxic. I think she and I both prefer equality. I’m not controlling or jealous. She’s from China and was an intelligence officer and I was in the army as a SIGINT. She was out already but we shared it in common. Started dating. We’ve been dating for almost 8 years now. Though last two years she’s been back in China but is coming back next year and we are getting married.

But like I have female friends and she has male friends. On the 23rd for example me and a really good friend of mine of 12 years , she and I are going to the movies and getting dinner together. Just as friends. My fiancee is cool with it, but I’ve met women who thinks it’s wrong to have friends if the opposite sex. But to me that’s ridiculous. It’s normal and healthy to have friends of all genders and sex. Just because you start dating someone or get married does not mean you should drop all your friends. To me that’s a red flag. My friends are all very important to me.

 

[Wrangler]

*I* don't say. Wynona, as the OP says.

Nope. You added "per Wyonna." This shows your argumentativeness.

 

[Wrangler]

Which you are free to do. As we are free to discuss what we’re discussing as it is on-topic.

No. It's opposite the topic.

 

[Naomanos]

No. It's opposite the topic.

Why are you ignoring what she herself has said?

She said that viewpoints other than her own are allowed in this thread. This make what we’re talking about on-topic.

 

[Wrangler]

Why are you ignoring what she herself has said?

She said that viewpoints other than her own are allowed in this thread.

<sigh> @Mink57 says we can only talk about Wynonna's POV. You are saying trolling the thread is acceptable.

Viewpoints triumphing over feminism is what this thread is about. Your "other" views are the opposite. You and @Mink57 still hold there is something good to this most evil ideology and have not triumped over it.

 

[Mink57]

It’s what me and my girlfriend’s relationship essentially is. We are equals. I can’t imagine a nontoxic version where I somehow have power
Over her. Not even really sure what that looks like. I would just demand she did what I wanted?

For the most part. Our buddy Wrangler can't seem to wrap his head around the idea of compromise or that BOTH can 'lead'. Sometimes YOUR idea works; sometimes HER idea works. Kind looks like:

Him: Let's go to dinner at that Thai place.
Her: I don't really like Thai food.
Him: I'm the MAN! I have the final say! We're going for THAI!

No thanks...

Seems toxic. I think she and I both prefer equality.

It is. Can't say that I prefer "equal"...in ALL regards, but definitely FAIRNESS. Sometimes fairness means equal. Sometimes not.

I’m not controlling or jealous. She’s from China and was an intelligence officer and I was in the army as a SIGINT. She was out already but we shared it in common. Started dating. We’ve been dating for almost 8 years now. Though last two years she’s been back in China but is coming back next year and we are getting married.

Awwww. Hope she comes back home sooner than later. Bless you both...

But like I have female friends and she has male friends. On the 23rd for example me and a really good friend of mine of 12 years , she and I are going to the movies and getting dinner together. Just as friends. My fiancee is cool with it, but I’ve met women who thinks it’s wrong to have friends if the opposite sex. But to me that’s ridiculous. It’s normal and healthy to have friends of all genders and sex. Just because you start dating someone or get married does not mean you should drop all your friends. To me that’s a red flag. My friends are all very important to me.

Oh, I agree! I'm FINE with opposite sex friends, as long as they BOTH respect boundaries.

 

[Mink57]

Nope. You added "per Wyonna." This shows your argumentativeness.

I didn't add "per Wynona". I QUOTED Wynona!! Even POSTSED the quote FROM HER!

 

[Mink57]

No. It's opposite the topic.

Why don't you ask the OP? As in Wynona?

 

[Naomanos]

<sigh> @Mink57 says we can only talk about Wynonna's POV. You are saying trolling the thread is acceptable.

Viewpoints triumphing over feminism is what this thread is about. Your "other" views are the opposite. You and @Mink57 still hold there is something good to this most evil ideology and have not triumped over it.

No one is trolling the thread. The OP has said different viewpoints are welcome. She is the thread’s author, not Wrangler. She has dictated that viewpoints other than her own are allowed to contribute in this thread and has expressed thanks for those viewpoints even though she does not agree.

If you want it to only be about triumphing over feminism, than go ahead and start your own thread and dictate that only those who agree with you are allowed to post.

I will keep posting within this thread because different viewpoints are allowed to be expressed.

 

[Mink57]

<sigh> @Mink57 says we can only talk about Wynonna's POV. You are saying trolling the thread is acceptable.

Whoa, dude! At what point did I say that we can ONLY talk about Wynona's POV?

At what point did WYNONA -- the AUTHOR OF THIS THREAD -- that ONLY viewpoints about how others triumphed over feminism were welcome?

Viewpoints triumphing over feminism is what this thread is about. Your "other" views are the opposite. You and @Mink57 still hold there is something good to this most evil ideology and have not triumped over it.

Wynona EXEPECTED as much.

Seriously dude, go back and read her opening page!

Besides.....why would I listen to YOU, who can't even spell the OP's name right?

 

[Skovand]

Why don't you ask the OP? As in Wynona?

 

[Skovand]

I’m not sure how that posted above.

But equal I just mean I don’t have power or authority to make her do anything. Anything one of us does, it’s because we came to an agreement, or either did not and carried on. But since we love each other, and trust each other, normally we are of one mind. If not, the issue is almost never that serious. Biggest argument we got over was a centipede laid an egg sac on the side of our bed years ago. She wanted me to remove it and was kind of scared. I convinced her no. Took a while. It hatched and dozens and dozens came out. I collected them all. Raised about 30 of them in jars for a few weeks and released them outside.

 

[Rita]

For goodness sake , some threads go off topic from time to time. Right at this moment in time I would suspect that Wynona is too busy looking after a new born baby and a toddler to worry about conveying different prospectives
Stop arguing or the thread will be locked

 

[Mink57]

I’m not sure how that posted above.

But equal I just mean I don’t have power or authority to make her do anything. Anything one of us does, it’s because we came to an agreement, or either did not and carried on. But since we love each other, and trust each other, normally we are of one mind. If not, the issue is almost never that serious.

Exactly!

Biggest argument we got over was a centipede laid an egg sac on the side of our bed years ago. She wanted me to remove it and was kind of scared. I convinced her no. Took a while. It hatched and dozens and dozens came out. I collected them all. Raised about 30 of them in jars for a few weeks and released them outside.

Awwww, cute little centipedes!

Wow...if that's the WORST of your disagreements.....Surprised you didn't need a THERAPIST to help you make that decision!

Oh, the horror...the HORROR...

 

[Skovand]

Exactly!

Awwww, cute little centipedes!

Wow...if that's the WORST of your disagreements.....Surprised you didn't need a THERAPIST to help you make that decision!

Oh, the horror...the HORROR...

What was a bit horror was that in the first two years we were dating she barely spoke English. So a lot of it was broken English and hybrid English. So sometimes I would be talking and suddenly realize she’s just looking at me, smiling, and eventually I learned she had no idea what I was saying and was googling words trying to be certain. Now she speaks really good conversational English. I still speak almost no Chinese. But she also knows Korean and Spanish. English is like her 6th language.

 

[Mink57]

What was a bit horror was that in the first two years we were dating she barely spoke English. So a lot of it was broken English and hybrid English. So sometimes I would be talking and suddenly realize she’s just looking at me, smiling, and eventually I learned she had no idea what I was saying and was googling words trying to be certain. Now she speaks really good conversational English. I still speak almost no Chinese. But she also knows Korean and Spanish. English is like her 6th language.

Meanwhile, English was my best subject all through school. K-12. Minored in English in College. Had a career as a paralegal. Am now a screenwriter by trade.

I STILL don't have the language mastered! Doubt I ever will!

Then again, it's a lot different writing on these forums than writing a screenplay...or a legal brief! Can only imagine the trials and tribulations that your fiancee went through! Great that she was able to pick up additional languages, though. I took 3 years of Spanish in high school. Can BARELY count in that language! Meanwhile, late ex-husband was fluent in German.

Some people are more adept at picking up languages than others. But your story speaks volumes. Sometimes, language requires...

...no words.

But I digress...

It makes no sense to me that one gender should dominate over another...especially since God, nor Jesus ever said that. So many examples in the Bible that demonstrate otherwise.

Jesus' words of "Do unto others..." tells me that we should treat others the way we would want to be treated...EVEN IN A MARRIAGE. Unless a man would want his wife to dominate over HIM, why would he dominate over HER?

God doesn't want oppression of groups. He freed the oppression of the Hebrews from Egypt. While God ALLOWED the Hebrews to be oppressed for hundreds of years, his attitude about the oppressors, that they "haven't yet risen to their culminatin of thier sin" before God helped Moses DO something about it.

Makes me wonder if God isn't doing the same thing with Patriarchy.....

 

[Naomanos]

What was a bit horror was that in the first two years we were dating she barely spoke English. So a lot of it was broken English and hybrid English. So sometimes I would be talking and suddenly realize she’s just looking at me, smiling, and eventually I learned she had no idea what I was saying and was googling words trying to be certain. Now she speaks really good conversational English. I still speak almost no Chinese. But she also knows Korean and Spanish. English is like her 6th language.

Meanwhile, English was my best subject all through school. K-12. Minored in English in College. Had a career as a paralegal. Am now a screenwriter by trade.

I STILL don't have the language mastered! Doubt I ever will!

Then again, it's a lot different writing on these forums than writing a screenplay...or a legal brief! Can only imagine the trials and tribulations that your fiancee went through! Great that she was able to pick up additional languages, though. I took 3 years of Spanish in high school. Can BARELY count in that language! Meanwhile, late ex-husband was fluent in German.

Some people are more adept at picking up languages than others. But your story speaks volumes. Sometimes, language requires...

...no words.

That's cool guys!

My fiance and I are going through Duolingo to learn Scottish Gaelic. It's a bit rough to learn, but we're continuing through it.

 

[Skovand]

Meanwhile, English was my best subject all through school. K-12. Minored in English in College. Had a career as a paralegal. Am now a screenwriter by trade.

I STILL don't have the language mastered! Doubt I ever will!

Then again, it's a lot different writing on these forums than writing a screenplay...or a legal brief! Can only imagine the trials and tribulations that your fiancee went through! Great that she was able to pick up additional languages, though. I took 3 years of Spanish in high school. Can BARELY count in that language! Meanwhile, late ex-husband was fluent in German.

Some people are more adept at picking up languages than others. But your story speaks volumes. Sometimes, language requires...

...no words.

Really cool. Are the screenwritings for films or games? Maybe podcasts. Anything horror driven?