THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[RLT63]

If you have nothing to offer only to infer some false meaning on a text you copy and paste.

Can you see this?

The texts speak for themselves. You are the one that attaches a false meaning.
You act as if there is something wrong with posting scriptures

 

[IronMaiden]

WOWZA

@Wrangler @Aunty Jane

Page after page of CLEAR scripture denoting CHRIST as God = just like His FATHER

It says: "in Christ is ALL the FULLNESS of THE Deity"

Amen. The Father is Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, too. One.

 

[face2face]

The Word that was God from the Beginning

So true Logos and its manifestation whether the Physical Creation or Spiritual Creation in Christ - Logos is the Power and Reason behind Yahweh God.

 

[IronMaiden]

The Word that was God from the Beginning

The Word is the Lord who spoke to Moses for NO ONE comes to the FATHER but thru ME(the Word that became flesh)

Yes.

 

[face2face]

The texts speak for themselves.

What do they say?

 

[David in NJ]

So true Logos and its manifestation whether the Physical Creation or Spiritual Creation in Christ - Logos is the Power and Reason behind Yahweh God.

Sounds very intellectual........

 

[St. SteVen]

Looks like the Trinitarians finally showed up. - LOL

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[RLT63]

What do they say?

Jesus is Lord

 

[face2face]

Sounds very intellectual........

You would need to understand the One True God - there is hope for you yet...

 

[IronMaiden]

Looks like the Trinitarians finally showed up. - LOL

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[face2face]

Jesus is Lord

Well this is the first truth you have offered - well done!

 

[face2face]

Looks like the Trinitarians finally showed up. - LOL

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....with blunt tools

 

[IronMaiden]

....with blunt tools

I’ve got a double-edged sword!

Hebrews 4:12 (NKJV) For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

 

[David in NJ]

Looks like the Trinitarians finally showed up. - LOL

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You would need to understand the One True God - there is hope for you yet...

Even more deep ontological imperative speech that has me quizzically enamored within the confines of a endless eternal paradigm by which the opportune equation of binary impossibilities that are over-evaluated before becoming distinct possibilities within the realm of unknown
paridigm beyond which i have formulated an absence of vacuum with which to be filled upon further forensic manipulation of non-material entities whereby invocation of said particles within the constraint of letters that form words over which a patterned seasoned recumbent investigator beyond my paradigm who has the existence of endless contact with said Individual who claim to be THREE yet ONE.

Go figure!!!

 

[David in NJ]

I’ve got a double-edged sword!

Hebrews 4:12 (NKJV) For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Let's Fill UP with some Latter Rain

 

[face2face]

Even more deep ontological imperative speech that has me quizzically enamored within the confines of a endless eternal paradigm by which the opportune equation of binary impossibilities that are over-evaluated before becoming distinct possibilities within the realm of unknown
paridigm beyond which i have formulated an absence of vacuum with which to be filled upon further forensic manipulation of non-material entities whereby invocation of said particles within the constraint of letters that form words over which a patterned seasoned recumbent investigator beyond my paradigm who has the existence of endless contact with said Individual who claim to be THREE yet ONE.

Go figure!!!

Halfway through reading this my mind went back to the Trinitarian formula and then it all made sense...

 

[face2face]

I’ve got a double-edged sword!

Hebrews 4:12 (NKJV) For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Don't cut yourself with it

 

[Aunty Jane]

Then you deny the truth of the scriptures in favor for your own private interpretation.

The Angel of the LORD is the Son of God; YHWH the LORD God.

I find that completely illogical for many reasons….how is God an angel of himself? Angels are “messengers“ who take the words of one person to give them to another.
And since Jesus is also said to be our “High Priest“…(Heb 3:1) what was the role of the High Priest in Israel? It was a position of service to God….can God be his own High Priest as well as his own “servant?” (Acts 4:27, 30)

Can he be his own mediator, and can mere humans kill an immortal God….can you answer these questions from a trinitarians viewpoint? I think not, which is why I left Christendom to adopt true worship, not based on ancient errors adopted by an apostate church centuries after Christ died.

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59

Why did the Jews pick up stones to stone Him when He said I AM?

Can you read that again this time without the trinitarians glasses?

”Jesus answered: “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, the one who you say is your God. 55 Yet you have not known him, but I know him. And if I said I do not know him, I would be like you, a liar. But I do know him and am observing his word. 56 Abraham your father rejoiced greatly at the prospect of seeing my day, and he saw it and rejoiced.” 57 Then the Jews said to him: “You are not yet 50 years old, and still you have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” (eimi) 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid and went out of the temple.”

They asked a past tense question, so Jesus did not give them a present tense answer. In context “I Am” is not even close to what Moses told the people in Exodus 3:13-15.

What were the Jews plotting? They wanted an excuse to have him put to death since they possessed no power under Roman law to execute anyone. First of all they tried to get Pilate to punish him on political grounds, saying that he was a king, but Pilate said he was innocent, being no threat to the Roman state…..so they got angry and told Pilate that it was he who would face the Power of Rome on a charge of treason if he allowed another king but Caesar….

If you look up what Jesus actually said in the Interlinear, he did not say “I Am” at all. He was answering a question about his age, not his status as a deity…something he never once claimed. He said he existed before Abraham was even born…..speaking about his position in heaven as God’s “only begotten son” before anything else existed. (Col 1:15-17)

He was God’s “only begotten son“ from the moment his Father created him. (Rev 3:14) And he remains a worshipper and servant of his Father to this day. (Rev 3:12)

 

[RLT63]

So true Logos and its manifestation whether the Physical Creation or Spiritual Creation in Christ - Logos is the Power and Reason behind Yahweh God.

Logos is the Greek term translated as “word,” “speech,” “principle,” or “thought.” In Greek philosophy, it also referred to a universal, divine reason or the mind of God.

In the New Testament, the Gospel of John begins, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men” (John 1:1-4). Here it is clear that the “Word” or Logos is a reference to Jesus Christ.

John argues that Jesus, the Word or Logos, is eternal and is God. Further, all creation came about by and through Jesus, who is presented as the source of life. Amazingly, this Logos came and lived among us: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth” (John 1:14).

John’s Gospel begins by using the Greek idea of a “divine reason” or “the mind of God” as a way to connect with the readers of his day and introduce Jesus to them as God. Greek philosophy may have used the word in reference to divine reason, but John used it to note many of the attributes of Jesus. In John’s use of the Logos concept, we find that

-Jesus is eternal (“In the beginning was the Word”)
-Jesus was with God prior to coming to earth (“the Word was with God”)
-Jesus is God (“the Word was God.”)
-Jesus is Creator (“All things were made through him”)
-Jesus is the Giver of Life (“In him was life”)
-Jesus became human to live among us (“the Word became flesh and dwelt among us”)

Further, the opening of John’s Gospel carries a striking resemblance to Genesis 1:1.

“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1).

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him…” (John 1:1).

(The corresponding theme of “light” is also used in both Genesis 1 and John 1.)

Logos is used in many ways, yet in John’s Gospel Logos is a clear reference to Jesus, the God who both created us and lived among us. Logos became a theological term important to Christians in the early church and remains a concept of significant influence today.
Source; Got Questions?

 

[face2face]

Logos is the Greek term translated as “word,” “speech,” “principle,” or “thought.” In Greek philosophy, it also referred to a universal, divine reason or the mind of God.

In the New Testament, the Gospel of John begins, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men” (John 1:1-4). Here it is clear that the “Word” or Logos is a reference to Jesus Christ.

John argues that Jesus, the Word or Logos, is eternal and is God. Further, all creation came about by and through Jesus, who is presented as the source of life. Amazingly, this Logos came and lived among us: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth” (John 1:14).

John’s Gospel begins by using the Greek idea of a “divine reason” or “the mind of God” as a way to connect with the readers of his day and introduce Jesus to them as God. Greek philosophy may have used the word in reference to divine reason, but John used it to note many of the attributes of Jesus. In John’s use of the Logos concept, we find that

-Jesus is eternal (“In the beginning was the Word”)
-Jesus was with God prior to coming to earth (“the Word was with God”)
-Jesus is God (“the Word was God.”)
-Jesus is Creator (“All things were made through him”)
-Jesus is the Giver of Life (“In him was life”)
-Jesus became human to live among us (“the Word became flesh and dwelt among us”)

Further, the opening of John’s Gospel carries a striking resemblance to Genesis 1:1.

“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1).

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him…” (John 1:1).

(The corresponding theme of “light” is also used in both Genesis 1 and John 1.)

Logos is used in many ways, yet in John’s Gospel Logos is a clear reference to Jesus, the God who both created us and lived among us. Logos became a theological term important to Christians in the early church and remains a concept of significant influence today.
Source; Got Questions?

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