Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Naomanos]

It's not about men. Feminists are frightened off by these things.

Have you spoken to every feminist on the planet?

Ever hear of division of labor?

Yep!

I told my wife from the beginning that I don't want her to do the hard work.

Know what my fiance told me? While she won't clean, she'll do the hard work with me. You are not the speaker for all women or men, as I am not the speaker for all women or men.

I do believe that men should help with household chores, such as doing dishes, vacuuming, etc. Do I expect it in all relationships? Nope! Not all relationships are the same and what works for one, will not work for the other, but I betcha, if a husband helps out with "easy" work such as doing dishes, vacuuming the rugs, etc, there would be a lot less intimacy issues if the wife is tired. It's that give and take I mentioned before.

 

[Wrangler]

Have you spoken to every feminist on the planet?

Is that required? Or are you setting a standard designed to fail the opposition to an evil ideology?

 

[Naomanos]

Is that required? Or are you setting a standard designed to fail the opposition to an evil ideology?

What I am trying to point out is that you cannot speak for every feminist on the planet.

We will have to agree to disagree that Feminism is evil.

 

[Wrangler]

What I am trying to point out is that you cannot speak for every feminist on the planet.

Never was that my goal. How have you triumphed over feminism?

 

[Naomanos]

Never was that my goal.

You seem to do it an awful lot though.

How have you triumphed over feminism?

I never said I have ever tried, nor would I try. I don't see a need to, because most feminists aren't extremists.

I thought that would have been evident by my we will have to agree to disagree about feminism being evil.

 

[Wrangler]

 

[Wrangler]

I never said I have ever tried, nor would I try.

Then your only purpose in posting in this thread is to be a troll..

 

[Naomanos]

Then your only purpose in posting in this thread is to be a troll..

Not trolling at all and name calling doesn’t help your side any.

Want to try replying to me again without the name calling? I have shown you respect and I expect the same in return.

 

[Naomanos]

Then your only purpose in posting in this thread is to be a troll..

My purpose in this thread is to show that there is other viewpoints and ways of doing things that actually work for marriages. That there isn’t a cookie cutter way of doing marriage.

It is also to say that not all of feminism is evil as you portray. I had said that we will have to agree to disagree and I stand by that, but I am going to add that if you feel that all of feminism is evil because of a few bad apples, then so is patriarchy. You cannot say that all of feminism is evil because of the few and yet say that patriarchy is not when there are those in patriarchy that do things that are evil too.

This is the problem with blanket statements.

 

[Wrangler]

My purpose in this thread is to show that there is other viewpoints

Start your own thread. This thread is about triumphing over feminism.

 

[Naomanos]

Troll. Start your own thread. This thread is about triumphing over feminism.

I forgive you for the name calling.

There is a nice way to get someone to do what you want them to to do and name calling isn’t it.

 

[Mink57]

Start your own thread. This thread is about triumphing over feminism.

If Im not mistaken, I think U.K's women's suffrage began a decade or two before the feminist movement in the U.S in the 1890's. I'm a bit fuzzy about how similar they are but Id enjoy learning about it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! All of them. Anyone is free to agree or disagree with my point of view and I expect plenty of opposition on mine.

This thread is a discussion about triumphing over feminism as per Wynona's POV.

 

[Mink57]

Also, why aren't the husbands helping in this post? Are they only to go to work and come home and sit in their easy chairs and watch the game?

I know that is not the type of man that I am. Maybe, just maybe, if the husbands helped with household chores, there would be more intimacy as well.

Studies for egalitarian marriages vs. Traditional marriages have proven time and time again, that egalitarian marriages are more successful than Traditional marriages AND that egalitarian marriages do have more intimacy than Traditional marriages.

 

[Naomanos]

Studies for egalitarian marriages vs. Traditional marriages have proven time and time again, that egalitarian marriages are more successful than Traditional marriages AND that egalitarian marriages do have more intimacy than Traditional marriages.

It really does make sense!

I watched my grandparents marriage as I was growing up as my mom was a single mom and theirs was egalitarian before I think the word was ever mainstream so to speak.

So, I have done my best to emulate them. They were married for 59 years before my grandmom passed away of cancer.

 

[Wynona]

Studies for egalitarian marriages vs. Traditional marriages have proven time and time again, that egalitarian marriages are more successful than Traditional marriages AND that egalitarian marriages do have more intimacy than Traditional marriages.

This I gotta see

 

[Wynona]

I do apologize for not responding to @Naomanos and @Skovand

IIve had really limited internet time lately but I do appreciate you both and everyone posting here whether I agree or not.

 

[Mink57]

This I gotta see

Your wish is my command, M'Lady!

From the link: (It's only 6 pages long, including a page of references. Pretty fast reading)

"Most of the couples (81%) where both spouses perceived the relationship as equalitarian (i.e. egalitarian) were happily married, while most of the couples (82%) where both spouses perceived their as relationship as traditional (i.e. hierarchical) were mainly unhappy. [12"

"the inequality experienced by women was a primary cause of unhappiness leading to the break up of marriages. [17]"

https://empowerinternational.org/wp-content/uploads/Egalitarian-Marriages-Prove-Happier-than-Hierarchical-Marriages.pdf

Oh, and, just in case there's any question about the author's possible bias,

Support for Egalitarian Marriage

 

[Wrangler]

I forgive you for the name calling.

There is a nice way to get someone to do what you want them to to do and name calling isn’t it.

A troll is what a troll does. Not name calling, properly identifying reality.

 

[Wrangler]

This thread is a discussion about triumphing over feminism as per Wynona's POV.

So you say. I’m OK with discussing how anyone triumphed over the evil ideology of feminism.

 

[Naomanos]

A troll is what a troll does. Not name calling, properly identifying reality.

As I said, I forgive you for name calling.

What you are failing to read in her OP is that she wants discussion whether we agree or disagree and she expects opposition. I cannot be a troll if the OP is welcoming different viewpoints from her own.

In her latest post she even stated that she appreciates us posting here even if she doesn’t agree.