THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[amigo de christo]

The Trinitarian correctly testifies of Knowing God is Almighty, Omnipotent, and His All Power IS His Glory Which He GIVES His All Power, All Glory, TO NO One.

Gods Word came to Earth As A Humbled Servant unto God, Without All Power, without the Task To Teach Human Men OF ALL of Gods Knowledge, Rather to Teach Human Men, HOW they could Gain More of Gods Knowledge beyond the Text AND Gods Understanding OF Gods Such increased Knowledge.

While on Earth God Revealed TO “A Very Few shepherds”…that Gods Humbled Servant…Jesus…IS IN FACT …. The ALL Knowing and All Powerful Of God.

A FEW of the shepherds, TO Jesus’ Face, Confessed THEY Absolutely BELIEVED HE IS HE, The All-Knowing … Which ONLY APPLIES TO God.

Any human CAN call ON The Lord, And Confess the SAME….which IS What a Trinitarian Believes AND Does.

And people such as yourself, and @Ritajanice Can REJECT such Belief And Further Rail Against People WHO Have Accepted Such Belief and they such as yourself can challenge and Discourage Others WHO may be leaning Toward Accepting Such Belief.

The Text Reveals the Knowledge THAT Jesus IS the Word of God AND the Christ, Who IS the all Power And Glory Of God.

The willingness for an individual human to Believe the Revealed Knowledge, hangs on every individuals FREEWILL to Believe and their FREEWILL to call on the Lord and CONFESS their Belief…..OR Not.

The Conundrum IS People Claiming THEY DO Believe WHO Jesus IS. And HAVE CONFESSED THEIR BELIEF TO HIM….
YET Continue to preach to other men Christ the Lord Jesus IS NOT God.

Scripture WARNS to be Diligent, be Informed, BE Sure, Know What one IS Confessing TO, Before calling ON the Lord TO make a CONFESSION of Agreement OF WHO The Lord Jesus IS!
(2 Pet 1:10)

WHO IS THE Lord Jesus?

You along with RitaJanice can Read for yourselves the very question JESUS asked And the Correct Answer.

Luke… Chapter 9
Mark …Chapter 8
Matthew… Chapter 16

Glory to God,
Taken

Hello my friend . correct you are .
but i want to remind you of another HUGE conundrum , PEOPLE who are claiming to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST
and yet saying and implying its not necessary for one to beleive. That other religions are fine so long as they so call
perform the golden rule . TALK about an anti christ conundrum we gots going on right now within a heap of christendom .
For they cliam to BELIEVE but imply ITS NOT NECESSARY to have BELEIVED . not looking good taken . not at all .

 

[St. SteVen]

I did not know that it was a sin to be "fully indoctrinated" by the TRUTH.

Indeed.

To be clear, I allow them the right to have their own opinions about the nature of the godhead. (a term they deny)
It's too bad we can't present our views on both sides and learn to better understand each other.

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[amigo de christo]

The largest conundrum is
THOSE WHO SAY and CLAIM to BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST
but then turn around and imply to them false religoins and all , OH BUTS ITS NOT NECESSARY they BELIEVED HE WAS .
that is of ANTI CHRIST .

 

[face2face]

@St. SteVen even if it was explained to you it would fall through your fingers to the ground

 

[amigo de christo]

More unitarian Jews?

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beware for many scholars are and have twisted the clear written words in the bible to suit a lie .
And beleive me when i say , WE ALL NEEDS TO BEWARE .

 

[Taken]

You do know that "Christ" means Anointed, anointed by God. NOT God.

Of course .
Anointed means chosen.
God chose HIS Word to be Sent Out of Gods Mouth, TO Earth, IN a body God Prepared, TO Teach manKind HOW earthly, terrestrial manKIND could Choose to Be Transformed and SEE God AS He IS and such man BE alive and with God Forever.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

More unitarian Jews?

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@Wrangler @Ritajanice @amigo de christo @Taken

i AGREE that the majority of Jewish leaders that were against JESUS were in fact 'unitarians'.

And this was the outcome of their religion according to the LORD - Matthew 23:31-36

“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

After reading these words of the Lord Jesus Christ, i would never be comfortable being a 'unitarian' nor would i allow myself to be under such who teach it.

 

[St. SteVen]

i AGREE that the majority of Jewish leaders that were against JESUS were in fact 'unitarians'.

Perhaps we should say "monotheists"?
So as to not give credit to uninitarianism?

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[David in NJ]

@Aunty Jane and @Nancy and @Ritajanice

In the Light of the words of JESUS in His Gospel does anything 'jump out' at you on this passage???

Deuteronomy 5:6-7
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me.

 

[amigo de christo]

@Wrangler @Ritajanice @amigo de christo @Taken

i AGREE that the majority of Jewish leaders that were against JESUS were in fact 'unitarians'.

And this was the outcome of their religion according to the LORD - Matthew 23:31-36

“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

After reading these words of the Lord Jesus Christ, i would never be comfortable being a 'unitarian' nor would i allow myself to be under such who teach it.

David , why do you think this has increased within christendom in LARGE as of late .
Go back about twenty five or thirty years .
THE PLAN is to unify all religoins . BUT TO DO SO CHRIST MUST BE REMOVED as being seen as GOD .
Cause how ya gonna sell our truth is no better than any other religons truth
WHEN ONE RELIGOIN SAYS OUR CHRIST IS GOD . you cant david . You have to break down the diety of CHRIST
and make him appear more on the scale as did prophets like muhammed and other beliefs .
They have to make all religoins beleive they are serving the same GOD if they just perform the golden rule .
Rather odd dont ya think . THEY say PERORM the golden rule as though that were possible for all them
CHRIST GOD DENYING religoins to do . I BELIEVE that rule starts with TO LOVE WHO
with all your heart mind and soul . GOD . IF one loveth NOT CHRIST , THEY LOVETH NOT the FATHER WHO SENT HIM .

 

[David in NJ]

David , why do you think this has increased within christendom in LARGE as of late .
Go back about twenty five or thirty years .
THE PLAN is to unify all religoins . BUT TO DO SO CHRIST MUST BE REMOVED as being seen as GOD .
Cause how ya gonna sell our truth is no better than any other religons truth
WHEN ONE RELIGOIN SAYS OUR CHRIST IS GOD . you cant david . You have to break down the diety of CHRIST
and make him appear more on the scale as did prophets like muhammed and other beliefs .
They have to make all religoins beleive they are serving the same GOD if they just perform the golden rule .
Rather odd dont ya think . THEY say PERORM the golden rule as though that were possible for all them
CHRIST GOD DENYING religoins to do . I BELIEVE that rule starts with TO LOVE WHO
with all your heart mind and soul . GOD . IF one loveth NOT CHRIST , THEY LOVETH NOT the FATHER WHO SENT HIM .

THE PLAN is to unify all religoins . BUT TO DO SO CHRIST MUST BE REMOVED as being seen as GOD .

BINGO

 

[Grailhunter]

God is the One who Planted me.

And when a great multitude had gathered, and they had come to Him from every city, He spoke by a parable: 5“A sower went out to sow his seed. And as he sowed, some fell by the wayside; and it was trampled down, and the birds of the air devoured it. 6Some fell on rock; and as soon as it sprang up, it withered away because it lacked moisture. 7And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up with it and choked it. 8But others fell on good ground, sprang up, and yielded [e]a crop a hundredfold.” When He had said these things He cried, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

The one God formula for the Trinity did not occur for several centuries after the biblical era but the first documented time the word Trinity was used in relations to Christianity was written in the second century. (Now, the definitions that follow are not that hard to lookup and for anyone that is truly interested, I recommend it.) The Greek word used for Trinity was Τριάς, meaning "a set of three." The only meaning of one in this word was that it was one set of three.

Webster’s definition of Trinity
1. the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma
2. not capitalized : a group of three closely related persons or things
3. a set of three

And again the McKenzie Bible Dictionary explains it this way.... “The Trinity of God is defined by the Church as the belief that in God there are three persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly or formally a biblical belief.” Which hold true to the fact that the word Trinity does not occur in the Holy Bible.

 

[David in NJ]

David , why do you think this has increased within christendom in LARGE as of late .
Go back about twenty five or thirty years .
THE PLAN is to unify all religoins . BUT TO DO SO CHRIST MUST BE REMOVED as being seen as GOD .
Cause how ya gonna sell our truth is no better than any other religons truth
WHEN ONE RELIGOIN SAYS OUR CHRIST IS GOD . you cant david . You have to break down the diety of CHRIST
and make him appear more on the scale as did prophets like muhammed and other beliefs .
They have to make all religoins beleive they are serving the same GOD if they just perform the golden rule .
Rather odd dont ya think . THEY say PERORM the golden rule as though that were possible for all them
CHRIST GOD DENYING religoins to do . I BELIEVE that rule starts with TO LOVE WHO
with all your heart mind and soul . GOD . IF one loveth NOT CHRIST , THEY LOVETH NOT the FATHER WHO SENT HIM .

You have to break down the diety of CHRIST
and make him appear more on the scale as did prophets like muhammed and other beliefs .
They have to make all religoins beleive they are serving the same GOD if they just perform the golden rule .

DOUBLE BINGO

 

[Wrangler]

Of course .
Anointed means chosen.
God chose HIS Word to be Sent Out of Gods Mouth

You are deliberately confusing WHAT's with WHO's. Words are WHAT's. The chosen servant of God is a WHO.

 

[David in NJ]

The one God formula for the Trinity did not occur for several centuries after the biblical era but the first documented time the word Trinity was used in relations to Christianity was written in the second century. (Now, the definitions that follow are not that hard to lookup and for anyone that is truly interested, I recommend it.) The Greek word used for Trinity was Τριάς, meaning "a set of three." The only meaning of one in this word was that it was one set of three.

Webster’s definition of Trinity
1. the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma
2. not capitalized : a group of three closely related persons or things
3. a set of three

And again the McKenzie Bible Dictionary explains it this way.... “The Trinity of God is defined by the Church as the belief that in God there are three persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly or formally a biblical belief.” Which hold true to the fact that the word Trinity does not occur in the Holy Bible.

This is ASTONISHING!!!

Where did Webster's and McKenzie find such Truth???

 

[David in NJ]

David , why do you think this has increased within christendom in LARGE as of late .
Go back about twenty five or thirty years .
THE PLAN is to unify all religoins . BUT TO DO SO CHRIST MUST BE REMOVED as being seen as GOD .
Cause how ya gonna sell our truth is no better than any other religons truth
WHEN ONE RELIGOIN SAYS OUR CHRIST IS GOD . you cant david . You have to break down the diety of CHRIST
and make him appear more on the scale as did prophets like muhammed and other beliefs .
They have to make all religoins beleive they are serving the same GOD if they just perform the golden rule .
Rather odd dont ya think . THEY say PERORM the golden rule as though that were possible for all them
CHRIST GOD DENYING religoins to do . I BELIEVE that rule starts with TO LOVE WHO
with all your heart mind and soul . GOD . IF one loveth NOT CHRIST , THEY LOVETH NOT the FATHER WHO SENT HIM .

THEY say PERORM the golden rule as though that were possible for all them
CHRIST GOD DENYING religoins to do . I BELIEVE that rule starts with TO LOVE WHO
with all your heart mind and soul . GOD . IF one loveth NOT CHRIST , THEY LOVETH NOT the FATHER WHO SENT HIM .

TRIPLE BINGO

 

[Wrangler]

Perhaps we should say "monotheists"?
So as to not give credit to uninitarianism?

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Well, the reason is because trinitarians abuse language, pervert montheism to mean 3in1. Therefore, unitarianism strikes a more precise contrast with trinitarianism.

 

[amigo de christo]

@Aunty Jane and @Nancy and @Ritajanice

In the Light of the words of JESUS in His Gospel does anything 'jump out' at you on this passage???

Deuteronomy 5:6-7
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me.

but we were never in BONDAGE to any man .
JESUS came to set the captives free , free from the bondage of sin my friend .
OUT OF EYGPT have i called my SON . DOES that old test reminder , REMIND US OF ANYTHING written
in the gospels .
OUT of EYGPT i have called MY SON , ISRAEL .
Lets read mathew , i think . WHEN he uses that phrase to describe a far deeper meaning as to what this would lead too .
WHEN Joseph brought JESUS back out of EYGPT . Out of EYGPT .
Let us flee the tabernacle of men and go ye into the WILDERNESS wrote paul . Israel left eygpt and travelled the wilderness
WHERE GOD humbled them to teach them it is written ye shall not LIVE by bread alone
but by EVERY WORD OF GOD . and now we have come out of the bondage of sin , and have eaten of the bread
by JESUS THE CHRIST WHO IS THE WORD of GOD . With the true love of GOD shed upon our hearts
whereby the SPIRIT we do love and embrace the very words OF GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

TRIPLE BINGO

They who hear us , wrote john , are of GOD
they who hear not us are not OF GOD .
But interdeath or interfaith as it calls itself , SURE SAYS OTHERWISE .
lets reword interfaith . ENTERDEATH for all who beleive the lie have made a convenant of death.
ITS TIME for folks to ENTER INTO REAL FAITH . FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
FOr if one believes not WHAT HE SAID , BELIEVES NOT IN HIM as the CHRIST
THEY DO NOT as DID ABRAHAM who actually BELEIVED GOD .
FOR HOW can a man DENY JESUS as the CHRIST and yet BE BELEIVING GOD WHO TESTIFED OF HIM .
THEY call GOD a liar , they do only the work and working of that which is of anti christ
to DENY one must BELEIVE IN HIM .

 

[amigo de christo]

This is ASTONISHING!!!

Where did Webster's and McKenzie find such Truth???

where they found it ..................NOT FROM GOD my friend , it came of the carnal mind .
ANY definition , any teaching , any words that contradict A WORD OF GOD cometh and came not OF GOD but of men
under the sway of darkness .
The worlds best scholars , all politicians , all religoins and all churches within christendom
could stand as one and try and pry the truth in that bible outta my hand and my heart , OH i had sooner die first .
FOR EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH . HE IS TRUTH , HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH , THE SON IS TRUTH .
And the bible is FULL OF HIS INSPIRED TRUTH which is meat for our souls .
So the scholars can laugh at the dumb child all day and the world and its religions can come as one
against the lambs , BUT THEY FEAR NOT MAN , IMMANUEL my FRIEND . IMMANUEL . GOD IS WITH US
Man can do as he pleases to me , GOD has the sheep and his sheep love HIS words .