THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

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For My thoughts are not your thoughts,

neither are your ways My ways,”

declares the LORD.
9“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,

so My ways are higher than your ways

and My thoughts than your thoughts.

10For just as rain and snow fall from heaven

and do not return without watering the earth,

making it bud and sprout,

and providing seed to sow and food to eat,

11so My word that proceeds from My mouth

will not return to Me empty,

but it will accomplish what I please,

and it will prosper where I send it.

He (Yahweh) sent forth His Word - correct!

 

[RLT63]

If God foreknew you in that same glory, did you also pre-exist? (Romans 8:29)

If you were in His mind (Logos), which He had already prepared for glory (note the past tense) (Romans 9:23, cf. 2 Timothy 1:9).

Once again, because you don't grasp His Logos in terms of reason and purpose, you are unable to comprehend how Christ could pray such a thing.

I believe you understand, but in order to uphold your Trinitarian doctrine, you must impose the idea for believing in pre-existence.

If you truly saw the beauty in the Master's words, you would be moved by them! How much faith does this take for Christ to utter?

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John 1 lays it out perfectly. If you misunderstand it's because you're reading your beliefs into it.
The Word became flesh, the same that was with God in the beginning and was God.
Before Abraham was, I am.

 

[David in NJ]

Is it fair to say you are not very good at explaining your point

Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers,
Elohe of Abraham,
Elohe of Isaac,
Elohe of Jacob,
has sent me to you.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֨י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

 

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Yahweh is not the name given to Moses whereby the LORD said "This is My Name forever......"

The word "ever" is olam in Hebrew, and signifies "a hidden period."

You are not making any sense whatsoever David!

 

[face2face]

John 1 lays it out perfectly. If you misunderstand it's because you're reading your beliefs into it.
The Word became flesh, the same that was with God in the beginning and was God.
Before Abraham, I am.

Correct - His Word became Flesh

 

[David in NJ]

The word "ever" is olam in Hebrew, and signifies "a hidden period."

You are not making any sense whatsoever David!

forever,
לְעֹלָ֔ם (lə·‘ō·lām)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 5769: 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, world 1a) ancient time, long time (of past) 1b) (of future) 1b1) for ever, always 1b2) continuous existence, perpetual 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity

 

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Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers,
Elohe of Abraham,
Elohe of Isaac,
Elohe of Jacob,
has sent me to you.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֨י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

Correct!

His memorial name includes all those who reflect His character! This is basic, elementary Sunday School material, David.

"And this is My memorial"—This term comes from the Hebrew zeker, derived from zakar, meaning to mark for remembrance and, by implication, to mention. References to God's memorial Name are found in Psalm 135:13, Hosea 12:5, and Isaiah 26:8, where the RSV translates: "Thy memorial Name is the desire of our soul."

Just to be clear David - you are saying that your life has nothing to do with the Name God revealed to you through Moses and The Lord Jesus Christ?

Wow - thats a staggering admission if this is correct

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[David in NJ]

Correct!

His memorial name includes all those who reflect His character! This is basic, elementary Sunday School material, David.

"And this is My memorial"—This term comes from the Hebrew zeker, derived from zakar, meaning to mark for remembrance and, by implication, to mention. References to God's memorial Name are found in Psalm 135:13, Hosea 12:5, and Isaiah 26:8, where the RSV translates: "Thy memorial Name is the desire of our soul."

Just to be clear David - you are saying that your life has nothing to do with the Name God revealed to you through Moses and The Lord Jesus Christ?

Wow - thats a staggering admission if this is correct

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Abraham/Isaac/Jacob were the Representatives on earth that tell us who Elohim is in Heaven

Abraham - FATHER
Isaac - only Begotten SON of the FATHER
Jacob - HOLY SPIRIT

This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

 

[Grailhunter]

What was the eternal name given to Moses?

Clue - "This is My Name FOREVER......."

In Exodus 3:14, God tells Moses, “I AM WHO I AM,” which represents God's eternal nature and self-existence.

 

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@David in NJ

I'm starting to see how the Trinity is mudding the waters of this crystal clear teaching which is totally unknown to you.

The use of the divine Name is about continually awakening the mind to the responsibilities of the one who uses it, in order to fully manifest it. The Lord Jesus Christ, the prophet "like unto Moses," proclaimed and revealed the Name to the apostles (John 17:6, 26). His actions in this regard serve as a warning to those who, with misguided zeal, lead God's people to "forget His name" (see Jeremiah 23:27).

You haven’t forgotten His Name, David; it seems you have never truly known it. You are here attempting to teach someone who has spent years studying the meaning and application of His Name, striving to become a part of that Name, which is God's desire for all His children, with Christ being the Firstborn of this Age.

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[face2face]

Abraham/Isaac/Jacob were the Representatives on earth that tell us who Elohim is in Heaven

Abraham - FATHER
Isaac - only Begotten SON of the FATHER
Jacob - HOLY SPIRIT

This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

Wow the foolishness continue to come on thick and fast!

Abraham - The Father
Isaac - The Only Begotten Son of the Father
Jacob - The Multitudenous Seed, i.e., The Saints (stars without number...sand of the seashore!) 12x12 Jew & Gentile

Everything above communicates the meaning of His Name!

Your brain is so sick on false dogma you cannot interpret the Story of the Bible for forcing your falsehood on it.

Terrible!

Two out of three isn’t bad, but it’s still incorrect! @Johann can you see his error?

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[St. SteVen]

Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Another one for Genesis @Wrangler that makes three and counting. Ambiguous? - LOL

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[David in NJ]

In Exodus 3:14, God tells Moses, “I AM WHO I AM,” which represents God's eternal nature and self-existence.

The Name begins in verse 15

 

[David in NJ]

Another one for Genesis @Wrangler that makes three and counting. Ambiguous? - LOL

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Maybe the scripture is wrong and it should Read as follows: "Lettuce go down and make salad"

 

[David in NJ]

Wow the foolishness continue to come on thick and fast!

Abraham - The Father
Isaac - The Only Begotten Son of the Father
Jacob - The Multitudenous Seed, i.e., The Saints (stars without number...sand of the seashore!) 12x12 Jew & Gentile

Everything above communicates the meaning of His Name!

Your brain is so sick on false dogma you cannot interpret the Story of the Bible for forcing your falsehood on it.

Terrible!

Two out of three isn’t bad, but it’s still incorrect! @Johann can you see his error?

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OK
You gave yourself to willful blindness.

Remain as you are.

 

[face2face]

#291 David forced Holy Spirit to interpret the Sons of Jacob incorrectly. Note; will David admit his mistake and in humility apply the correction?

This shows how far a believer will go to impose the Trinity onto the record, missing the deeper spiritual lessons that are meant to be revealed.

It also means David does not understand the Memorial Name and How it applies to the Promises, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob and the Lord Jesus Christ.

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[David in NJ]

#291 David forced Holy Spirit to interpret the Sons of Jacob incorrectly. Note; will David admit his mistake and in humility apply the correction?

This shows how far a believer will go to impose the Trinity onto the record, missing the deeper spiritual lessons that are meant to be revealed.

It also means David does not understand the Memorial Name and How it applies to the Promises, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob and the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Foolish child, have you never Read the Gospel of John.......

Therefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John 2(though Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples), 3He left Judea and departed again to Galilee. 4But He needed to go through Samaria.

5So He came to a city of Samaria which is called Sychar, near the plot of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph. 6Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied from His journey, sat thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.

7A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.” 8For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.

9Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.

10Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”

11The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”

13Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

 

[St. SteVen]

Huh? Without reading trinitarian doctrine into it. Can’t answer questions otherwise, eh?

Well... there are three plurals. I can't get monotarianism out of that.

Genesis 1:26 NIV
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness,
so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky,
over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over
all the creatures that move along the ground.”

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[RLT63]

Abraham/Isaac/Jacob were the Representatives on earth that tell us who Elohim is in Heaven

Abraham - FATHER
Isaac - only Begotten SON of the FATHER
Jacob - HOLY SPIRIT

This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

Actually Abraham's servant represents the Holy Spirit. He tells Rebecca about the son and he brings gifts, like the Holy Spirit he doesn't speak of himself, he tells Rebecca ( the bride) about the son

 

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@David in NJ

"That they may believe that Yahweh God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" Exo 4:5

The divine Name and titles served as a guarantee that, just as God had responded to the faith of the fathers, so He would respond to their descendants. "Abraham" means Father of a Multitude, reflecting God's purpose to create a family of faith (Rev. 7:9). "Isaac" means Rejoicing, symbolizing the joy that comes to those who embody the faith of his father (Rev. 7:12). "Jacob" means Supplanter, signifying that the Spirit will ultimately replace the flesh (Rev. 7:14).

Look up the revelation references - start to learn David

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