The Third (Ezekiel's) Temple of Israel, Project 1534

[Galgal]

And how do you know this? Were you there in Zerubbabel's days as he was helping to build it from start to finish? Remember, Herod's temple renovations greatly changed what the Second temple looked like during those 46 years in building it, as of Christ's first Passover. Jerusalem's temple by then had become one of the wonders of the world at that time.

You really can't imagine the Temple described by Ezekiel. The outer wall that fences off the area of the Lord's estate, in the center of which the temple complex is located, is 1440 meters long (500 reeds). Around this wall, along the perimeter, a trading area 24 meters wide (40 cubits) will be built.

He measured the east side with the measuring reed, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed round about.
He measured the north side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed round about.
He measured the south side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring reed.
He turned about to the west side, and measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
He measured it by the four sides: it had a wall round about, five hundred reeds long, and five hundred broad, to make a separation between the sanctuary and the profane place.
(Ezekiel 42:16-20)

Of this there shall be for the sanctuary five hundred in length, with five hundred in breadth, square round about; and fifty cubits round about for the suburbs thereof.
(Ezekiel 45:2)



This entire area, measuring 1488x1488 meters, must be cleared of any extraneous buildings and graves. No one has ever built anything like this in Jerusalem and will never be able to do this - demolish all the buildings and graves in an area of 1.5 by 1.5 kilometers!

Zadok was not an imaginary person. And his family descendants were not imaginary. God specifically prohibited the other Levites and their families from serving as a high priest in that temple described in Ezekiel, because they became unfaithful during their Babylonian exile.

You stubbornly continue to talk about some position of high priest, which does not exist at all in the Temple described by Ezekiel. There will only be priests (Kohanim) and Levites.

Only the family of Zadok had remained faithful, and their reward was to be the only ones allowed to come near unto God and offer Him the fat and the blood, and to minister "in the MOST HOLY PLACE" (Ez. 44:13). To enter the Holy of Holies was the role of the high priest back then in Zerubbbel's days, when Joshua son of Josedech with his Zadok genealogy was set up as the high priest in the rebuilt Ezekiel temple.

There should be no high priest in Ezekiel's Temple. Because the High Priest is now Jesus:

Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. (Hebrews 6:20)

Nobody said Christ abolished the law. He fulfilled it by becoming the prophesied High Priest after the order of Melchizedek - a superior order than that of the Levites.

Jesus fulfilled only that part of the law that was laid upon Him at the First Coming. He also did not fulfill many of the Old Testament prophecies that pertained to His Second Coming.

For example, Jesus fulfilled only 3 of the seven feasts of the Lord at the First Coming:

1. Passover
2. Unleavened Bread
3. The First Sheaf

One more feast of the Lord was fulfilled by the Church:
4. Pentecost

There are 3 autumn feasts that remain unfulfilled for the Second Coming:
5. Yom Teruah
6. Yom Kippur
7. Sukkot (Simchat Torah, the 8th day of Sukkot)

These last three feasts will be fulfilled with the building of the Third Temple and the city of Yahweh Shammah.

Christ Jesus is a priest forever after this superior order of Melchizedek. This was that "change in the law" which Hebrews 7:12 spoke of. "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." The Old Covenant died as soon as Christ established the New Covenant in His blood on His resurrection-day ascension. We know the OC and its rituals died then because Hebrews 8:13 says so. It was dead, and it was decaying, and it was ready to "vanish away", once God physically tore the whole system down to the last stone in AD 70 so that it would never be rebuilt again.

The Temple will be built on a new site, which is determined by the prophecy of Ezekiel. The fact that the Second Temple was destroyed does not mean anything. The First Temple was also destroyed, and then the Second Temple was built, and on the same site.

It matters not that the Jews continued to offer sacrifices in memory of sin in their obsolete physical temple after Christ's death and resurrection. Those sacrifices had become replaced by "better things" at that point, and the apostle Paul warned believers not to return and submit to Judaism. Judaism and the temple was scheduled for a fiery ending which was about to devour the Jews in that first century Roman / Jewish war period.

What "better things" are you talking about? How Christians have been fighting among themselves for thousands of years? Or how Christians have crucified the Body of Christ by thousands of denominations, building a Babylon where one denomination does not understand another denomination? Or how Christians have come up with the idea of putting an idol in the Temple instead of God, a pagan sun god, repainting it to look like Jesus Christ? Today's Judaism is simply a lamb of God compared to the predatory eagle of Christianity.

Daniel 12:7 had predicted long ago that the power of the holy people would be shattered, and it was back in AD 70 .

"To scatter the power of the holy people" has not yet happened, the prophecy of Daniel refers to the future. The prophecy of 2300 evenings and mornings, the prophecy of 1290 days, the prophecy of 1335 days are still in the process of being fulfilled.

 

[Galgal]

Here on a topographic map is shown the actual location of the future Temple described in the prophecy of Ezekiel:


There should be no extraneous buildings on the entire territory, approximately one and a half by one and a half kilometers.

 

[Earburner]

Do you want to follow tradition? The name of the beast from the earth is Tradition:

παράδοσις = (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666 (Matthew 15:2)

Instead of using Gamatria (numerology), the answer is found right in the scriptures.

Rev. 18
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and
his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

1. Where is wisdom?
It was with "a man", King Solomon.
2. What number did that man have?
Six hundred threescore and six.
3. What did that man count?
Gold.
4. How much Gold did that man receive?
Six hundred, threescore and six talents of Gold, in one year. 1 Kings 10:14

Q. Though at the time, Solomon made shields out of that Gold, what is Gold to you and I today?
A. Fiat Money, which is soon to become digitized money, requiring a Digital ID.

Rev. 13[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[Galgal]

Instead of using Gamatria (numerology), the answer is found right in the scriptures.

Rev. 18
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and
his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

1. Where is wisdom?
It was with that man, King Solomon.
2. What number did that man have?
Six hundred threescore and six.
3. What did that man count?
Gold.
4. How much Gold did that man receive?
Six hundred, threescore and six talents of Gold, in one year. 1 Kings 10:14

Q. Though at the time, Solomon made shields out that Gold,
What is Gold to you and I today?
A. Fiat Money, soon to become digitized money, requiring a Digital ID.

Rev. 13[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

It says "count the number of the beast", not "find the number of the beast". There is no need to count anything to find 666 talents of gold in the Bible.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Revelation 13:18)

You need to find the word(s) whose numerical value is 666, and in meaning they fit as the name(s) of the beast(s).

In ancient times, letters were used as numbers. For the Greek alphabet, this was called isopsephy. This method was well known. In the Greek text of the New Testament, there are only 2 words whose sum of letter values equals 666. These are the names of the 2 beasts from Revelation 13.

εὑπορία = (5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 + 10 + 1) = 666 (Acts 19:25) - Wealth (KJV) or Prosperity (NASB)

παράδοσις = (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666 (Matthew 15:2) - Tradition

This issue is discussed in detail in the forum thread Names of the Beasts of Revelation: Wealth (Prosperity) and Tradition. If you want to discuss it, we should move to that thread.

 

[Earburner]

It says "count the number of the beast", not "find the number of the beast". There is no need to count anything to find 666 talents of gold in the Bible.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Revelation 13:18)

You need to find the word(s) whose numerical value is 666, and in meaning they fit as the name(s) of the beast(s).

In ancient times, letters were used as numbers. For the Greek alphabet, this was called isopsephy. This method was well known. In the Greek text of the New Testament, there are only 2 words whose sum of letter values equals 666. These are the names of the 2 beasts from Revelation 13.

εὑπορία = (5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 + 10 + 1) = 666 (Acts 19:25) - Wealth (KJV) or Prosperity (NASB)

παράδοσις = (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666 (Matthew 15:2) - Tradition

This issue is discussed in detail in the forum thread Names of the Beasts of Revelation: Wealth (Prosperity) and Tradition. If you want to discuss it, we should move to that thread.

No need to get into the Babylonian method of the Talmud, when Jesus in Rev. 13:17 makes a clear reference to the number six hundred, three score and six in 1 Kings 10:14.

 

[Earburner]

Do you think that the opinion supported by 2 billion people on earth is more correct than the one supported by 2 people? If you think so, you are wrong. The truth is not established by the majority of "yes" votes.

Well, as I had said, this is new to me.

So then, for you to not come forth with a straight answer of what church or denomination agrees to your belief system, I am left to the conclusion that it is of a private interpretation. Please correct me if I'm wrong, by sharing the evidence of others (more than two) that also promote your belief system.
Thanks, Earburner

 

[covenantee]

Or how Christians have come up with the idea of putting an idol in the Temple instead of God, a pagan sun god, repainting it to look like Jesus Christ?

What "Christians" are you referring to?

 

[Galgal]

What "Christians" are you referring to?

Those who worship the Roman sun god, calling him "Jesus Christ." About those who are opponents of the Third Temple and opponents of the real Jesus Christ, who according to Scripture was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei.

 

[3 Resurrections]

You stubbornly continue to talk about some position of high priest, which does not exist at all in the Temple described by Ezekiel. There will only be priests (Kohanim) and Levites.

You yourself are stubbornly refusing to read all of Ezekiel chapter 44, where it describes how none of the idolatrous Levites from the Babylonian exile period except for the faithful family of Zadok were going to be allowed access into "the MOST HOLY PLACE" (Ezekiel 41:4 and 44:13) of Ezekiel's temple that would be built (in the post-exilic return). This "MOST HOLY PLACE" was the "Holy of holies", where the high priest represented the people before God by "standing before me".

Ezekiel also described how the "prince" of Ezekiel's temple would prepare for himself, (and then for all the people which he represented) a bullock for a sin offering during the Passover (Ezekiel 45:22). "And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel." (Ezekiel 45:17).

This describes the high priestly activity which would be done by that "prince", without any doubt, happening in Ezekiel's temple. You are mistaken that there was no high priest operating in Ezekiel's temple (the second temple built during the post-exilic return).

Those who worship the Roman sun god, calling him "Jesus Christ." About those who are opponents of the Third Temple and opponents of the real Jesus Christ, who according to Scripture was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei.

Personally, I have not celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ on the December 25th date for many decades. Like you, I believe Christ Jesus was born in the fall - probably around the Feast of Tabernacles when Jerusalem and the surrounding towns were crowded with pilgrims coming for the fall feast. There was no room for Mary and Joseph at an inn, because Jerusalem's population and the surrounding towns had swelled to the usual over-crowded conditions during that time. The incarnate Christ Jesus came to "tabernacle" among mankind - perfect symbolism for the time of His birth during the Feast of Tabernacles of the 7th month.

The Temple will be built on a new site, which is determined by the prophecy of Ezekiel.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen. We as believers are the "living stones" which compose the new temple being built upon Christ Jesus as the "chief cornerstone". This temple made of "living stones" has gone vibrantly mobile into the whole world. Christ Jesus "rules in the midst of His enemies" by this means. It would be regression, and not progress, to once again confine worship to a fixed, physical structure of a physically rebuilt temple. Besides, the angel announced concerning the overthrow of Babylon ("that great city" old Jerusalem) that it would be cast like a great stone into the sea, "and shall be found no more at all" (Revelation 18:21). God has been done with using physical Jerusalem and a physical temple system ever since the New Covenant realities were set up at Christ Jesus's resurrection-day ascension.

The Jews of the first century failed to get that message, so God made a very public display during AD 70 of tearing down both the nation, the temple, and anything that was connected with that OT system. None of that will be found any more at all according to the statement of John's angel.

 

[covenantee]

Those who worship the Roman sun god, calling him "Jesus Christ." About those who are opponents of the Third Temple and opponents of the real Jesus Christ, who according to Scripture was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei.

Provide a link to independent information about "Christians" who "worship the Roman sun god".

 

[3 Resurrections]

"To scatter the power of the holy people" has not yet happened, the prophecy of Daniel refers to the future. The prophecy of 2300 evenings and mornings, the prophecy of 1290 days, the prophecy of 1335 days are still in the process of being fulfilled.

These things have ALL been fulfilled. ALL of Daniel's prophecy is ancient history by now. The 2,300 mornings and evenings (a total of 1,150 literal 24-hour days, each with a morning and evening oblation) was fulfilled by the time the victorious Maccabees had cleansed the temple after the abominations of Antiochus E's armies had defiled Jerusalem and the temple. The "feast of dedication" after that temple cleansing is mentioned in the gospel accounts. And Josephus records that this period of Antiochus E's abominable armies having control over Jerusalem lasted for this length of time.

As for the 1,290 days plus 45 more days to reach the 1,335th day, the end of those 1,335 days arrived at AD 70's Pentecost day. This was the day when Christ Jesus returned bodily to the Mount of Olives, and returned to heaven, taking with Him all the gathering of all the bodily-resurrected saints who had died up to that point. The "rapture" of only the resurrected righteous happened then.

We know this by the combination of two events that Daniel 12:11 said would initiate the 1,335 day period. These two events would happen together in the same season of time - the removal of a daily sacrifice after Passover in AD 66, and the abomination of desolation being set up (Jerusalem surrounded by armies in October of AD 66). This began the 1,335-day countdown to the bodily resurrection at Christ's second-coming return in AD 70 on that year's Pentecost day.

 

[Galgal]

You yourself are stubbornly refusing to read all of Ezekiel chapter 44, where it describes how none of the idolatrous Levites from the Babylonian exile period except for the faithful family of Zadok were going to be allowed access into "the MOST HOLY PLACE" (Ezekiel 41:4 and 44:13) of Ezekiel's temple that would be built (in the post-exilic return). This "MOST HOLY PLACE" was the "Holy of holies", where the high priest represented the people before God by "standing before me".

The Tabernacle hall, where half of the hall is the Holy of Holies, will be entered by priests, not by the high priest. There will be no high priest in the Third Temple. "Sons of Zadok" is an idiomatic expression meaning "sons of righteousness," that is, righteous people. These righteous people will be from among the hereditary Kohanim who remained among the Jewish people, as well as from among the lost tribes of Israel gathered by Jesus Christ:

And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the Lord out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the Lord, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the Lord.
And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord.
(Isaiah 66:20,21)

Ezekiel also described how the "prince" of Ezekiel's temple would prepare for himself, (and then for all the people which he represented) a bullock for a sin offering during the Passover (Ezekiel 45:22). "And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel." (Ezekiel 45:17).

"Prince", "nasi" is the president of Israel. This is not a priestly position, and he is not allowed to enter the inner court, and especially not inside the Tabernacle.

And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening. (Ezekiel 46:2)

Here is the place up to which the President is allowed to enter the inner court:



The Israelis will be required to give the president a portion of their livestock, and the president will bring these animals to the Temple and hand them over to the Levites and Kohanim for sacrifices on behalf of the people of Israel.

This describes the high priestly activity which would be done by that "prince", without any doubt, happening in Ezekiel's temple. You are mistaken that there was no high priest operating in Ezekiel's temple (the second temple built during the post-exilic return).

This is one of many reasons that refute your version that the Second Temple corresponded to Ezekiel's prophecy.

There was a high priest in the Second Temple. There should not be a high priest in Ezekiel's Temple.

Personally, I have not celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ on the December 25th date for many decades. Like you, I believe Christ Jesus was born in the fall - probably around the Feast of Tabernacles when Jerusalem and the surrounding towns were crowded with pilgrims coming for the fall feast. There was no room for Mary and Joseph at an inn, because Jerusalem's population and the surrounding towns had swelled to the usual over-crowded conditions during that time. The incarnate Christ Jesus came to "tabernacle" among mankind - perfect symbolism for the time of His birth during the Feast of Tabernacles of the 7th month.

This means that it will be easier for you than for others to understand the essence of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ when it is expressed in the fulfillment of the autumn feasts of the Lord.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen. We as believers are the "living stones" which compose the new temple being built upon Christ Jesus as the "chief cornerstone". This temple made of "living stones" has gone vibrantly mobile into the whole world. Christ Jesus "rules in the midst of His enemies" by this means. It would be regression, and not progress, to once again confine worship to a fixed, physical structure of a physically rebuilt temple. Besides, the angel announced concerning the overthrow of Babylon ("that great city" old Jerusalem) that it would be cast like a great stone into the sea, "and shall be found no more at all" (Revelation 18:21). God has been done with using physical Jerusalem and a physical temple system ever since the New Covenant realities were set up at Christ Jesus's resurrection-day ascension.

This is your fundamental mistake. There have always been and are spiritual believers, and there have always been and are carnal believers. For those who have reached the spiritual level, the Temple is not required. In Israel, they will be interested in the city of Yahweh Shammah, where the word of God will be produced in various forms to help all people reach God by the end of the Millennial Kingdom.

And for carnal believers, the Israelis, the Jews, there will be the Third Temple.

For us, the role of the Third Temple is to designate on earth the point of the general gathering of the saints. This Temple is given in the Bible, therefore it is the only, unique place appointed by God, where the elect from the four winds must be gathered. This gathering will be a testimony of our unity before the whole world. Then, the saints who have gathered there will build the city of Yahweh Shammah.

And the carnal Jews will receive the Temple as a gift, from the resurrected Messiah, from Jesus Christ - so that they can begin their path to reaching God following the example of the saints who came to Israel.

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: (Ephesians 1:10)

There are 12 tribes of earthly Israel, "the stick of Judah" (Ezekiel 37). And there are 12 tribes of heavenly Israel, "the stick of Joseph." The stick of Joseph will be added to the stick of Ephraim, the saints from the nations will come to Israel, enter the eastern gate of the Temple, unite with the Jewish people, bring the spirit of life from God to Israel. And then Israel will come to life, become the Kingdom of God and the incarnation of Jesus Christ at the Second Coming. The 24 refectory halls for the Israelites that will be in the Third Temple symbolize the unity of the 12 heavenly tribes and the 12 earthly tribes of Israel.

The Jews of the first century failed to get that message, so God made a very public display during AD 70 of tearing down both the nation, the temple, and anything that was connected with that OT system. None of that will be found any more at all according to the statement of John's angel.

Babylon is not Jerusalem. Babylon is the Christian religion in that dominant part of it which serves the present world ruled by the devil.

The Jews could not understand Ezekiel's prophecy about the Temple because the construction of this Temple requires (1) the First Coming of Christ to have taken place, (2) the preaching of the Gospel among all the nations of the world, (3) the attainment of a certain spiritual level by a sufficient number of believers, (4) the technological advances of the last two centuries, including the accuracy of geodetic measurements, when we were able to measure great distances in Israel and thus find the location of the Temple shown to Ezekiel.

 

[Galgal]

Provide a link to independent information about "Christians" who "worship the Roman sun god".

Why? If you want to worship an idol, that's your problem. Those who celebrate Christmas on December 25th worship the idol of the sun, because the real Jesus Christ was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei. Also, those who replaced Saturday with Sunday, the day of the sun god, worship the idol of the sun. The problem of dealing with the many iniquities of Christians is not my problem. I am currently engaged in the implementation of the Third Temple, and this is a topic about the Temple.

God has long taught me not to celebrate my birthday, and not to celebrate Christmas of the False Christ.

 

[Galgal]

These things have ALL been fulfilled. ALL of Daniel's prophecy is ancient history by now. The 2,300 mornings and evenings (a total of 1,150 literal 24-hour days, each with a morning and evening oblation) was fulfilled by the time the victorious Maccabees had cleansed the temple after the abominations of Antiochus E's armies had defiled Jerusalem and the temple. The "feast of dedication" after that temple cleansing is mentioned in the gospel accounts. And Josephus records that this period of Antiochus E's abominable armies having control over Jerusalem lasted for this length of time.

You have been deceived. Never, under any combination of leap/non-leap years in the Jewish calendar, will you get the desired number of 2300 evenings and mornings between the 15th of Kislev of one year and the 25th of Kislev of another year. Someone came up with this nonsense, and others repeat it and do not bother to check that such a thing simply could not happen.

As for the 1,290 days plus 45 more days to reach the 1,335th day, the end of those 1,335 days arrived at AD 70's Pentecost day. This was the day when Christ Jesus returned bodily to the Mount of Olives, and returned to heaven, taking with Him all the gathering of all the bodily-resurrected saints who had died up to that point. The "rapture" of only the resurrected righteous happened then.

There is a simple rule to determine whether a prophecy has come true or not. If the prophecy says 1290 days, then try to name the beginning and end dates of this period, confirmed by the Bible or reliable historical evidence. If you cannot name the beginning and end dates, the prophecy is considered unfulfilled.

By the way, Jesus' ministry lasted not three and a half years, but only two and a half. According to the Gospel of John, Jesus was in Jerusalem during his ministry for Passover twice, and on the third time He was crucified. Less than three years. You are drinking water from bad springs.

We already know about the 1335 days that this is the period from Tu Bishvat to Simchat Torah of the 4th year after planting the tree, according to the law Leviticus 19:23-25. More about this - forum topic:

Solution 1335 Days to Blessing

We know this by the combination of two events that Daniel 12:11 said would initiate the 1,335 day period. These two events would happen together in the same season of time - the removal of a daily sacrifice after Passover in AD 66, and the abomination of desolation being set up (Jerusalem surrounded by armies in October of AD 66). This began the 1,335-day countdown to the bodily resurrection at Christ's second-coming return in AD 70 on that year's Pentecost day.

What Coming of Christ in 70 A.D.? The prince of this world ruled as he did and still rules. Look around.

 

[covenantee]

Why?

To confirm your hallucination.

Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[3 Resurrections]

You have been deceived. Never, under any combination of leap/non-leap years in the Jewish calendar, will you get the desired number of 2300 evenings and mornings between the 15th of Kislev of one year and the 25th of Kislev of another year. Someone came up with this nonsense, and others repeat it and do not bother to check that such a thing simply could not happen.

If you subscribe to the idea that this was supposed to be a total of 2,300 literal 24-hour days, that was not what Daniel wrote. The word "days" never appears in this particular prophecy. There was a morning and an evening oblation for each of 1,150 days, which totalled 2,300 of those oblations. Antiochus and his abominable army held sway over Jerusalem and its people for that specified 1,150 literal 24-hour days, after which the victories of the Maccabees allowed them to cleanse the temple.

This was already fulfilled long ago, according to Daniel. Because this period was supposed to take place during the time the remnants of the Greek empire were still in place, but before the rise of the 4th empire (Roman). Josephus documented the specific time period for this in the Preface to his "Wars" (19). "For example, I shall relate how Antiochus, who was named Epiphanes, took Jerusalem by force, and held it three years and three months, and was then ejected out of the country by the sons of Asamaneus:..." (the Hasmoneans, or the Maccabees).

There is a simple rule to determine whether a prophecy has come true or not. If the prophecy says 1290 days, then try to name the beginning and end dates of this period, confirmed by the Bible or reliable historical evidence. If you cannot name the beginning and end dates, the prophecy is considered unfulfilled.

A bodily resurrection was going to take place at the end of those 1,335 days, in which Daniel would participate. And the 1,335 days started with TWO described events taking place during the same season of time (kairos).

After Passover in AD 66, Eleazar the temple governor got rid of the daily sacrifice for the Roman empire and the emperor, which instigated the beginning of the Roman Jewish war (the daily sacrifice taken away in Dan. 12:11). As a response to this, during the same season, Rome sent Cestius Gallus and an army who surrounded Jerusalem and managed to get into the city in October. The Roman solders made contact with the temple gates in "testudo" fashion, and were preparing to undermine those gates ("the abomination standing where it ought not") when Cestius Gallus for no reason whatever decided to withdraw his army from the city (allowing any believers inside the city to immediately flee to the mountains, as Christ had instructed them to do). From this date, it was 1,290 days until Titus came again with the Roman army and many auxiliary troops to again surround Jerusalem and set up camp, just after Passover had begun and the city's population was at peak occupancy for the Passover. Forty-five days later, Pentecost day arrived on the 1,335th day in AD 70 - the day of Christ's bodily return to the Mount of Olives. Christ had predicted that He would return while some of those He had once spoken to in person were still alive (Matt. 16:27-28). This He did, just as promised.

Daniel's prophecies have ALL been fulfilled long ago. Every one of them.

What Coming of Christ in 70 A.D.? The prince of this world ruled as he did and still rules. Look around.

No, Christ slew Satan the prince of this world and his entire realm of evil angelic hosts and unclean spirits back in AD 70. There are a number of scriptural passages and prophecies which teach this. Since then, the wickedness present in this world has been emerging solely from the evil that lurks in the hearts of mankind. Satan's presence is not required for this, as Christ once told us ("For from within, out of the heart of man, proceed all manner of evil...", etc.).

"Prince", "nasi" is the president of Israel. This is not a priestly position, and he is not allowed to enter the inner court, and especially not inside the Tabernacle.

Nonsense. "Messiah the Prince" was Daniel's title for Christ Jesus who would become our Great High Priest. It was a high priest prince who was to offer those sacrifices both for himself and all the people in Ezekiel's rebuilt temple in the post-exilic return. And this high priest prince was to have access to the "most holy place" in that temple structure. And he had to be a family member of Zadok's family. The man Zadok's name actually did mean "righteousness", but that does not mean Ezekiel 44 was speaking generically of all righteous people.

You are confusing the OT and the NT realities. And you are hung up on continuing the discarded separation of Jew and Gentile categories. Under the New Covenant, Christ has made of both of these "One new man" in which there are no more category divisions such as used to be under the OC. You seem to be stuck in the Old Covenant when you should have moved on to the New Covenant based upon "better promises".

 

[Earburner]

Those who worship the Roman sun god, calling him "Jesus Christ." About those who are opponents of the Third Temple and opponents of the real Jesus Christ, who according to Scripture was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei.

Are you meaning those who worship on Sunday? If so, then it must be that you worship on Saturday.

 

[Galgal]

If you subscribe to the idea that this was supposed to be a total of 2,300 literal 24-hour days, that was not what Daniel wrote. The word "days" never appears in this particular prophecy. There was a morning and an evening oblation for each of 1,150 days, which totalled 2,300 of those oblations. Antiochus and his abominable army held sway over Jerusalem and its people for that specified 1,150 literal 24-hour days, after which the victories of the Maccabees allowed them to cleanse the temple. Already fulfilled long ago, according to Daniel.

No. Never, under any combination of leap/non-leap years of the Jewish calendar, can there be 1150 days between 15 Kislev in one year and 25 Kislev in another year. You are too lazy to check, but I checked. Christianity is full of false myths.

Because this period was supposed to take place during the time the remnants of the Greek empire were still in place, but before the rise of the 4th empire. Josephus documented the specific time period for this in the Preface to his "Wars" (19). "For example, I shall relate how Antiochus, who was named Epiphanes, took Jerusalem by force, and held it three years and three months, and was then ejected out of the country by the sons of Asamaneus:..." (the Hasmoneans, or the Maccabees).

I would never refer to Flavius, because he is an unreliable source. When he spoke of a period of exactly 3 years and 3 months, he was simply adjusting the prophecy to the desired result.

A bodily resurrection was going to take place at the end of those 1,335 days, in which Daniel would participate. And the 1,335 days started with TWO described events taking place during the same season of time (kairos).

After Passover in AD 66, Eleazar the temple governor got rid of the daily sacrifice for the Roman empire and the emperor, which instigated the beginning of the Roman Jewish war (the daily sacrifice taken away in Dan. 12:11). During the same season, Rome sent Cestius Gallus and an army who surrounded Jerusalem and managed to get into the city in October. The Roman solders made contact with the temple gates in "testudo" fashion, and were preparing to undermine those gates ("the abomination standing where it ought not") when Cestius Gallus for no reason whatever decided to withdraw his army from the city (allowing any believers inside the city to immediately flee to the mountains, as Christ had instructed them to do). From this date, it was 1,290 days until Titus came again with the Roman army to again surround Jerusalem and set up camp, just after Passover had begun and the city's population was at peak occupancy for the Passover. Forty-five days later, Pentecost day arrived on the 1,335th day in AD 70 - the day of Christ's bodily return to the Mount of Olives. Christ had predicted that He would return while some of those He had once spoken to in person were still alive (Matt. 16:27-28). This He did, just as promised.

Jesus returned in 70 AD? Don't talk such nonsense.

Daniel's prophecies have ALL been fulfilled long ago. Every one of them.

These are the words of the beast from the earth. The false prophet who looks like the Lamb (Jesus) but speaks like a dragon (the devil). If he has convinced you of this, woe to you. This is what is called "falsely called knowledge" in 1 Timothy 6:20.

No, Christ slew Satan the prince of this world and his entire realm of evil angelic hosts and unclean spirits back in AD 70. There are a number of scriptural passages which teach this. Since then, the wickedness present in this world has been emerging solely from the evil that lurks in the hearts of mankind. Satan's presence is not required for this, as Christ once told us ("For from within, out of the heart of man, proceed all manner of evil...", etc.).

What nonsense you are talking. I won't even argue with you.

Nonsense. "Messiah the Prince" was Daniel's title for Christ Jesus who would become our Great High Priest. It was a high priest prince who was to offer those sacrifices both for himself and all the people in Ezekiel's rebuilt temple in the post-exilic return. And this prince was to have access to the "most holy place" in that temple structure. And he had to be a family member of Zadok's family. The man Zadok's name actually did mean "righteousness", but that does not mean Ezekiel 44 was speaking generically of all righteous people.

I will end my conversation with you here so as not to waste my time.

 

[Galgal]

Are you meaning those who worship on Sunday? If so, then it must be that you worship on Saturday.

You are wrong.

 

[Keraz]

The Israelis will be required to give the president a portion of their livestock, and the president will bring these animals to the Temple and hand them over to the Levites and Kohanim for sacrifices on behalf of the people of Israel.

Israelites, Gods faithful peoples. not Israelis, who are just citizens of the current Jewish State. Also, their nation will be called Beulah. Isaiah 62

Will there be sacrifices in the new Temple?
When the Lord’s righteous people go to live in all of the Holy Land, soon after it is cleared and cleansed by the Lord’s Day of fiery wrath, Ezekiel 34:11-31, they will build a new Temple in Jerusalem, according to the details given in Ezekiel 40-46

Many Old Testament prophesies attest to this and how it will be built by men from far away, Zechariah 6:15, and it will be greater than the former ones. Haggai 2:9
The New Testament too, makes it clear there will be a Temple, 2 Thess. 2:4, Revelation 11:1-2, that will exist until the end of the Millennium, when God Himself will be the Temple. Revelation 21:22

We are told that during this age of Church dispensation, Christ is our high priest and we are the spiritual Temple, 2 Cor. 6:16 and no sacrifices are required. Hosea 9:4

Hebrews 9 & 10:1-21 are the scriptures that clearly tell us that Jesus made the once and forever sacrifice for the expiation of our sins. Now there is no Temple and Christians are His ‘body’ on earth. This is just for the time from the early church until the new Temple is built, when there will again be offerings and thanksgiving gifts made by the Lord’s holy people. Isaiah 56:1-8, Jeremiah 33:14-15

Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 9:26-27 tells us how, in the last days, an invading leader will make a peace treaty with the holy people, but will break it and put a stop to the sacrifices and offerings. Obviously there will be sacrifices and offerings taking place, for him to stop them.

This is confirmed by the prophesies detailing how it will be during the period the righteous people of God will be living the Land before the Return of Jesus:
Psalms 51:18-19 Now Lord, show Your favour to Zion and rebuild Jerusalem. Then You will delight in the appointed sacrifices, young bulls will be offered in Your altar.

Jeremiah 17:24-26 Now, if you obey the Lord’s Commandments, then a ruler will again occupy David’s throne and Jerusalem will be inhabited forever. Then people will come bringing whole offerings, sacrifices as thank offerings to the Lord’s House.

Jeremiah 33:14-18 The days are coming when I shall bless Judah and Israel…….there will always be a Levitical Priest to burn the grain and other offerings every day.

Ezekiel 45:13-25 The details of and the dates for making all the sacrifices and offerings on the Altar of the Temple.

Zechariah 14:21…all who come to make sacrifice will use the holy pots in Jerusalem to boil the flesh of the sacrifice……

Isaiah 60:6-7 Livestock in droves will be in the Land to serve your needs, as acceptable offerings on My Altar and I will adorn My glorious Temple.

The context of these scriptures proves that all this will be for the last days’ period before the Return of Jesus. What will happen in the Temple, during the Millennium isn’t told to us, although there will be priests then. Revelation 20:6, Zephaniah 14:16-21, Isaiah 2:1-3

But we know there will be no Temple in Eternity. Revelation 21:22