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amigo de christo

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I only teach Pauline Theology. (Paul's Doctrine).

He didnt make it up, and i know His Doctrine very well.

People who actually study the NT correctly , recognize Paul's doctrine when when i teach.

Paul said that we are to be a "follower of Him, as He follows Christ", and that means His lifestyle, His walk of Faith, and most of all we are to learn HIS Doctrine.

So, that is NOT Your Calvinism, nonsense. @Ritajanice

Calvinism is actually "anti-Paul" and "Anti-Christ" because it denies The Cross. as this = : > "TULIP".. "the 5 points".<




You're a hyper Calvinist who does not even understand how a person is saved.



Listen,
you can't even understand how to be SAVED.

You keep proving this by your posts...
Teach it all . paul nor james nor any other contradicted each other OR THE TRUTH of CHRIST .
Every word of the LORD is meat for our soul .
 
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Ritajanice

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Peter said , no scripture is of PRIVATE interpretation . NO IT WAS INSPIRED BY GOD
peter and paul agreed , as did all the apostels .
Oh the lovely truth written and recorded in that bible is so wonderful good to the soul of the lambs .
feast upon it daily .
God says that we are Born Of The Living Spirit, by divine heart revelation. The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God..the scripture confirms this truth.

God is a Living Spirit we are His Living spirit children.
 

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Teach it all . paul nor james nor any other contradicted each other OR THE TRUTH of CHRIST .
Every word of the LORD is meat for our soul .
As my Living witness does through me.

His Name is The Holy Spirit...only he speaks Gods Living truth, which is confirmed in the penned word.

Spirit gives birth to spirit,= by divine, heart, revelation.confirmed in the word.

Every word testified to my spirit feeds my spirit, that is where I grow and mature in Christ, as his Spirit indwells my spirit.
 
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Lets look real closely at this lovely golden rule which actually sums up the entire law .
THEN lets ask ourselves the serious question .
HOW can a man truly LOVE GOD , if that man denies HIS CHRIST ,
THEY DONT thus even their version of love your neighbor even falls short of LOVING its neighbor .
FOR THEY do not point their neighbor to CHRIST they allow the sin of UNBELIEF upon them poor lost souls .
He who loveth NOT CHRIST JESUS LOVETH NOT GOD .
HE who believes NOT JESUS THE CHRIST HAS NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN THEM .
As JESUS Once said , YE HAVE NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU , NO LOVE of THE TRUTH
for HE whom GOD did send , HIM you BELIEVE NOT . so lets not ever once go in the direcition
of satans all inclusive interfaith lie , WHICH actaully calls GOD A LIAR .
For he who beleives NOT the TESTIMONY THAT GOD gave OF THE SON , CALLETH GOD A LIAR .
Though the popes and intefaith and many within the protestant realm TRY AND Say OTHERWISE
as they tout out , OH there are good people in every religoin who do KNOW GOD and do good .
NO THEY CALL GOD A LIAR cause THEY REJECT HIS TESTIMONY OF THE SON . YA better keep that in mind rita .
cause a huge delusion has come amongst even christendom as it has unto all the other false religoins
TO bring them as one , united in heart and mission , TO PERDITION .
 
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Lets look real closely at this lovely golden rule which actually sums up the entire law .
THEN lets ask ourselves the serious question .
HOW can a man truly LOVE GOD , if that man denies HIS CHRIST ,
THEY DONT thus even their version of love your neighbor even falls short of LOVING its neighbor .
FOR THEY do not point their neighbor to CHRIST they allow the sin of UNBELIEF upon them poor lost souls .
He who loveth NOT CHRIST JESUS LOVETH NOT GOD .
HE who believes NOT JESUS THE CHRIST HAS NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN THEM .
As JESUS Once said , YE HAVE NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU , NO LOVE of THE TRUTH
for HE whom GOD did send , HIM you BELIEVE NOT . so lets not ever once go in the direcition
of satans all inclusive interfaith lie , WHICH actaully calls GOD A LIAR .
For he who beleives NOT the TESTIMONY THAT GOD gave OF THE SON , CALLETH GOD A LIAR .
Though the popes and intefaith and many within the protestant realm TRY AND Say OTHERWISE
as they tout out , OH there are good people in every religoin who do KNOW GOD and do good .
NO THEY CALL GOD A LIAR cause THEY REJECT HIS TESTIMONY OF THE SON . YA better keep that in mind rita .
cause a huge delusion has come amongst even christendom as it has unto all the other false religoins
TO bring them as one , united in heart and mission , TO PERDITION .
Let’s look closely at only Praising my LIVING Father God in Heaven.....who gets all the honour and Praise!!

Wahoo! Praise my wonderful Father that by his mercy and grace gave me the Living spiritual rebirth, reborn in my spirit.


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In The Mighty Name Of Jesus! AMEN!

Matthew 28:18: “And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”. Luke 10:19: “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you
 
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Sure, we have that in common.

But it's just the start, we need to grow and take the milk. I could be wrong but it feels as if the milk frightens you.
Or is it, that meat frightens you.

Hebrews 5:13-14

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13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil
 
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I have no rift with you Brother. You’re my Brother in Christ always..and I Love you in Christ.
I know you mean well . but lets go again and look at a few threads .
See when me , you and perhaps a few others who did not agree with you had wrote .
THEN remember all the photos of wolves in wool that you brought
along with all the words you said to me . You seem to be in a conflict .
a real shaky ground if you will .
And what i see , and this is not to condemn you , is that some days you seem to be okay
and then all of a sudden you seem not to be so okay .
You seem to almost change with the tides . It seems to me you are being led by EMOTIONS .
Not so much the TRUTH at all . Again i am not calling you anti christ or etc
But i do have a question for you .
this question you have no need to answer to me or anyone on this site .
Its a question i want you to ask yourself .
What is it about reading the bible daily that might bother you .
Do you have a fear .
 
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I know you mean well . but lets go again and look at a few threads .
See when me , you and perhaps a few others who did not agree with you had wrote .
THEN remember all the photos of wolves in wool that you brought
along with all the words you said to me . You seem to be in a conflict .
a real shaky ground if you will .
And what i see , and this is not to condemn you , is that some days you seem to be okay
and then all of a sudden you seem not to be so okay .
You seem to almost change with the tides . It seems to me you are being led by EMOTIONS .
Not so much the TRUTH at all . Again i am not calling you anti christ or etc
But i do have a question for you .
this question you have no need to answer to me or anyone on this site .
Its a question i want you to ask yourself .
What is it about reading the bible daily that might bother you .
Do you have a fear .
Brother, stop holding onto past events , let them go.,.and Praise our Living God.


If I hurt you, I’m sorry, Love you very much in Christ,x can we now move on..cause I ain’t getting on my knees to you,hehehehe.. lots and lots of xxxx

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Brother, stop holding onto past events , let them go.,.and Praise our Living God.


If I hurt you, I’m sorry, Love you very much in Christ,x can we now move on..cause I ain’t getting on my knees to you,hehehehe.. lots and lots of xxxx

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You did not hurt me , its just i desire only good for you so i do feel sorrow for you . does that make sense .
In other words beleive me , You have not even been close at all to calling me the names other christains have called me .
like anti christ , son of perdition , satan . you never have even once came close to calling me that .
THE words of men do not hurt me nor stop me . But it dont mean i dont sorrow for them . its for them rita that i hurt .
Not for me . JESUS has me , He has the sheep . i just want and desire good for them .
 
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Or is it, that meat frightens you.

Hebrews 5:13-14​

King James Version​

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil
sml

I can appreciate some good sarcasm.

Consider the work of the Holy Spirit -

Code:
                He Shall Glorify Me
A Study of the Holy Spirit’s Exaltation of Christ
                 By: A.D. Millard

The most developed and comprehensive teaching of Jesus on the Holy Spirit on record is found in John 14–16. He
spoke to the disciples of His successor, the Holy Spirit, to whom He referred as “another Comforter” (one called along-
side to help). An overview of His words reveals many significant things about the person and work of the Holy Spirit,
but none more prominent than the words describing the Spirit’s exaltation of Christ. 

A Christological frame of reference is immediately apparent in an analysis of the work of the Holy Spirit in John 14–16:
In relationship to Christ: The Holy Spirit’s work of testifying (15:26) and glorifying (16:14) concerns the person of
Christ.

In relationship to believers: The Holy Spirit’s work of teaching (14:26), guiding (16:13), showing (16:13,15), and
bringing to remembrance (14:26) concerns Christ and His kingdom.
In relationship to the world: The Holy Spirit’s work of reproving of sin, righteousness, and judgment (16:8) concerns
Christ and His claims.

It is evident that in the triad of personalities with whom the Holy Spirit is concerned the Person of Christ is primary and
His office work to each of the human elements is in relation to the Kingdom and claims of Christ. In this context we
examine the topic of the Holy Spirit’s exaltation of Christ.
 
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sml

I can appreciate some good sarcasm.

Consider the work of the Holy Spirit -

Code:
                He Shall Glorify Me
A Study of the Holy Spirit’s Exaltation of Christ
                 By: A.D. Millard

The most developed and comprehensive teaching of Jesus on the Holy Spirit on record is found in John 14–16. He
spoke to the disciples of His successor, the Holy Spirit, to whom He referred as “another Comforter” (one called along-
side to help). An overview of His words reveals many significant things about the person and work of the Holy Spirit,
but none more prominent than the words describing the Spirit’s exaltation of Christ.

A Christological frame of reference is immediately apparent in an analysis of the work of the Holy Spirit in John 14–16:
In relationship to Christ: The Holy Spirit’s work of testifying (15:26) and glorifying (16:14) concerns the person of
Christ.

In relationship to believers: The Holy Spirit’s work of teaching (14:26), guiding (16:13), showing (16:13,15), and
bringing to remembrance (14:26) concerns Christ and His kingdom.
In relationship to the world: The Holy Spirit’s work of reproving of sin, righteousness, and judgment (16:8) concerns
Christ and His claims.

It is evident that in the triad of personalities with whom the Holy Spirit is concerned the Person of Christ is primary and
His office work to each of the human elements is in relation to the Kingdom and claims of Christ. In this context we
examine the topic of the Holy Spirit’s exaltation of Christ.
No good posting a commentary,that’s just intellectual knowledge, we need God’s Spiritual knowledge, that’s why you must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...Born Of The Spirit...not hearing the gospel..

I explained to you earlier that if you have supernatural faith it will grow in spiritual knowledge ...if you heard the gospel, then you are the one acting on what you heard..,different level of faith, which is limited in its understanding of spiritual matters...
Don’t you know in your spirit, that the Spirit is at work in you?..the moment your spirit was reborn?

The Spirit penetrates the heart/spirit, his seed takes up permanent residence in our spirit...i see a lot of posts on believing in Jesus...the word says.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God..Only Gods seed ( Living) can testify that truth to our spirit..,a Living spiritual birth...

One should know 100% in their spirit, that they have been birthed by the Living Spirit, “permanently” I hear lots of testimonies on what one thinks it means to be Born Again, plus some post scripture and think it means that they are Born Again.,unfortunately none of what they post lines up with Gods word..on how we are Born Of The Spirit...= by supernatural , divine, heart revelation.

Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.thats how we are Born Again, just like Jesus explains to Nicodemus....not by hearing...one may have some sort of faith by hearing the gospel, they act on what they heard,it’s not the same as the gift of supernatural faith...,that’s on another level of faith...a level that only God can perform supernaturally via his Holy Spirit...God performs the Living supernatural birth....a miracle birth that blows the mind...no one cannot choose that I’m afraid...
 
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