Criteria for the end times timeline

[Douggg]

There are two fundamental criteria for understanding the end times timeline.

1. The time frames given in the bible for the end times. See first chart below

2. The five stages that the person goes through on the way to being cast alive into the lake of fire. See second chart below.

 

[Douggg]

Start with this first chart. Take note of the ToD and the AoD. The second chart zooms in and shows what happens between
the ToD and the AoD

 

[Truth7t7]

There are two fundamental criteria for understanding the end times timeline.

1. The time frames given in the bible for the end times. See first chart below

2. The five stages that the person goes through on the way to being cast alive into the lake of fire. See second chart below.



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There is one criteria, read the scripture as written and remove all dispensationalist teachings from it

 

[Douggg]

 

[Jericho]

Hey Douggg, weren't you on the Fulfilled Prophecy forum at one time?

 

[Douggg]

Hey Douggg, weren't you on the Fulfilled Prophecy forum at one time?

If you are referring to the Christian Forums site - yes, I am active there as well.

Do you have a link to the specific forum you are referring to ?

 

[Jericho]

Do you have a link to the specific forum you are referring to ?

The one I'm referring to no longer exists. I believe it was founded by Herb Peters and later managed by his daughter, Holly. I'm pretty sure I've seen your name and avatar before. I went by the nickname Watchman and Jericho.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Best bet is to read scripture. take what Jesus said will happen as a fact. and until you see what he said will happen. know they have not happened yet.

other than this it is all guesswork

 

[Douggg]

The one I'm referring to no longer exists. I believe it was founded by Herb Peters and later managed by his daughter, Holly. I'm pretty sure I've seen your name and avatar before. I went by the nickname Watchman and Jericho.

The three sites, I am active at are Christianity boards, Christian Forums, Worthy Christians. I go by my same screen name at all three.

 

[ewq1938]

There are two fundamental criteria for understanding the end times timeline.

1. The time frames given in the bible for the end times. See first chart below

You forgot when Paul spoke of him as "that Wicked". What stage is that?

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

 

[Douggg]

ou forgot when Paul spoke of him as "that Wicked". What stage is that?

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Stage 4. The revealed man of sin.

 

[ewq1938]

Stage 4. The revealed man of sin.

Each of your stages have their own name or title for this person so "that Wicked" is a supposed stage you aren't including. In context it would appear to be just before Christ returns.

 

[ScottA]

TIME IS AN ILLUSION. So are all timeline interpretations of scripture.

To the contrary, time is a tool used by God to reveal things that do not exist in Time or this world, but in Heaven. As such, a timeline is like eating the ingredients of a cake one at a time, when they are actually meant to be combined. But people as a whole need time to put it all together. But the time for such an elementary approach is pasted.

 

[Douggg]

Each of your stages have their own name or title for this person so "that Wicked" is a supposed stage you aren't including. In context it would appear to be just before Christ returns.


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The reason I don't have "that Wicked" as being a separate Stage from being the man of sin is that being the beast-king is not an interim Stage, but the final Stage and is associated with the ten kings.

btw, congratulations on your chart making efforts/ability. That was an impressive modification to my chart. You did a nice job. What program did you use to make your chart ? I use Corel paintshop pro.


On my chart, you might notice that the five different Stages, are in blue text.

In the bible, the chapters actually parallel the same sequence as the 5 stages.

i.e.
Daniel 7-8, the little horn
Daniel 9, the prince that shall come
John, the Antichrist
2Thessalonians, the revealed man of sin
Revelation, the beast-king

Keep perfecting your end times understanding. In the other thread, I replied to you with a post explaining why the Antichrist will be a phony King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah for a while. During which the world will be saying "peace and safety" during his false messianic age.

As the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6 messianic figure, the Antichrist will begin the 7 year 70th week. When he exposes himself as the man of sin, war will break out, the rider on the red horse, and the revealed man of sin will be assassinated. Then, after about a week, will be brought back to life to become the beast-king.

 

[ewq1938]

btw, congratulations on your chart making efforts/ability. That was an impressive modification to my chart. You did a nice job. What program did you use to make your chart ? I use Corel paintshop pro.

MS paint.

On my chart, you might notice that the five different Stages, are in blue text.

In the bible, the chapters actually parallel the same sequence as the 5 stages.

i.e.
Daniel 7-8, the little horn
Daniel 9, the prince that shall come
John, the Antichrist
2Thessalonians, the revealed man of sin
Revelation, the beast-king

Keep perfecting your end times understanding. In the other thread, I replied to you with a post explaining why the Antichrist will be a phony King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah for a while. During which the world will be saying "peace and safety" during his false messianic age.

In your explanations you do not present him as a "phony king" but a validly elected King of Israel.

As the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6 messianic figure, the Antichrist will begin the 7 year 70th week. When he exposes himself as the man of sin, war will break out, the rider on the red horse, and the revealed man of sin will be assassinated. Then, after about a week, will be brought back to life to become the beast-king.

There is no such thing found in the bible. A head is wounded and heals, not a man killed and brought back from the dead and nothing about a week inbetween these events either.

 

[Douggg]

In your explanations you do not present him as a "phony king" but a validly elected King of Israel.

"phony" in the sense that the Antichrist is not sent by God to be the King of Israel.

And he will not be "elected" but anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet. The Jews (Judaism) believe that the messiah will be anointed the king of Israel by a know prophet, similar to the way that Saul and David were anointed king by Samuel the prophet and Solomon was anointed king by Nathan the prophet.

 

[Douggg]

TIME IS AN ILLUSION. So are all timeline interpretations of scripture

What is a timeline interpretation of scripture ?

 

[ScottA]

What is a timeline interpretation of scripture ?

The events of this world in order of history, listed in an attempt to understand things not of this world where time does not exist.

 

[ewq1938]

"phony" in the sense that the Antichrist is not sent by God to be the King of Israel.

And he will not be "elected" but anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet. The Jews (Judaism) believe that the messiah will be anointed the king of Israel by a know prophet, similar to the way that Saul and David were anointed king by Samuel the prophet and Solomon was anointed king by Nathan the prophet.

So far they have been wrong about everything regarding the Messiah so why would they be right on this?