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Very true , only its not JUST calivn reformed churches that have done this . THE RCC has long done it .
and scores of others do too . This lamb expose all falsehoods . i do not pick and choose , i expose them all .
But perhaps it is why i be so hated by most all peoples . WE really need to be IN THAT BIBLE for our own selves . RIGHT NOW .
Amigo.....Let me say this and let's see if I can be clear for those that are reading along.....

The CC has added stuff to the bible that is not in there.
BUT
The CC teaches the gospel.....
They teach how to be saved.

Here's the BIG PROBLEM with Calvinism:

It DOES NOT TEACH anyone how to be saved because they think only God gets to pick and choose who will be saved
BASED ON NOTHING.....they teach a very unloving, unmerciful and unjust God.

AND

There is NO GOSPEL in the reformed/Calvinist faith.

So, if we want to be totally honest....Calvinism is the most damaging denomination in all of Christianity.

BECAUSE

1. There is NO GOSPEL.
2. There is no instruction on HOW to become saved.
 

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@GodsGrace is a Catholic, she’s an overseer on another forum under a heading Catholic.
My dear Ritajanice....
Don't presume to know anything about me or why I was an overseer on another Forum.
First, none of what I do/did is any of your business
and second....one small detail does not a story tell.
 

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@GodsGrace is a Catholic, she’s an overseer on another forum under a heading Catholic.
One more thing....
I WISH I could define myself as Catholic.
But I cannot.

Do I seem like the type of person that would NOT define myself as Catholic if I were?

I don't espouse Catholic doctrine on these forums because I don't agree with all of them.....

OTOH,,,,,YOU are a calvinist and don't even know it.

Life is a funny thing.....
 
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I feel sorry for u,may God be merciful to you
Oh please don't be sorry for me BF.....
You know I only do what I want to do
and say what I know is right.

Now tell me this:
WHY should God be merciful to me?
Are you claiming that He is a merciful God?

How can that be when He doesn't give everyone the chance/opportunity to become saved and spend eternity in heaven with Him?

See. You constantly make statements that make no sense at all.

Under Calvinism God:
IS NOT LOVING
IS NOT MERCIFUL
IS NOT JUST


So,,,,please explain WHY He should be merciful to me??
 
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Amigo.....Let me say this and let's see if I can be clear for those that are reading along.....

The CC has added stuff to the bible that is not in there.
BUT
The CC teaches the gospel.....
They teach how to be saved.

Here's the BIG PROBLEM with Calvinism:

It DOES NOT TEACH anyone how to be saved because they think only God gets to pick and choose who will be saved
BASED ON NOTHING.....they teach a very unloving, unmerciful and unjust God.

AND

There is NO GOSPEL in the reformed/Calvinist faith.

So, if we want to be totally honest....Calvinism is the most damaging denomination in all of Christianity.

BECAUSE

1. There is NO GOSPEL.
2. There is no instruction on HOW to become saved.
One thing i notice is that while some can quoate the gospel verbatum , as even i once could yet walked in darkness ,
they also say and imply that our truth is no better than the muslims or any other religoins .
YOU do realize that is how satan works and that he can cloak himself as an angel of light , as can his ministirs even lead churches .
Many now follow the mantra of oprah wimphrey who said I am a christain , BUT THERE IS NO NEED for you to beleive .
THE LIE . satan will say anything and claim any truth as though he be of the truth
yet he has one agenda . He dont care what one beleives , SO LONG as they DONT believe JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
HE dont care if one quoates the gospel verbatum so long as they love their sin and its lip only .
HE will preach another jesus and he will preach another gospel . HE does not sleep he has taken captive
A WHOLE lot of churches within ALL denominations . You heard me right , I SAID ALL denominations .
There are few now who either are not being influenced by what is of anti christ and boy do the lovey do united
denominations who are now even finding common ground with all religoins , HATE these few . Friend they hate us .
They had rather buy into a big ol nice fat cozy lovely sounding lie than to
BUY the TRUTH . Christendom is in dire deadly danger friend . I dont think folks realize JUST HOW BAD this is and
is getting . Many now buy the lie and many more are now being influenced by it and soon will buy the lie .
THEY UNITING under what they all believe is love and is of GOD . But it is hate and of anti christ .
HOW do i know its hate . CAUSE it will not give them ETERNAL LIFE , only the hope ,the idea they have it .
I REALLY only KNOW OF one who always desired the death of man . That one convinced the woman to eat of the tree .
YE shall not die
AND NOW TODAY it convinces christendom , HAS GOD really said YE must beleive JESUS is the CHRIST
and the church , aka the woman says , Well yes , JESUS said ye must beleive and that all who
do will have eternal life and those who beleive not will be damned .
NAY NAY sayeth the lie of satans interfaith and false love serpent , YE shall not DIE , ye shall not be damned .
NOW WHICH ONE YA THINK I AM GONNA HEED . GOD or satan , CHRIST or anti christ , the true doctrine of the apostels
OR FALSE APOSTELS decked in wool . YOU REMEMBER this . IF JESUS SAID IT THAT MEANS GOD SAID IT
and GOD CANNOT LIE . INTERFAITH IS SATANS GLUE to bring together the decieved right to PERDITOIN . HE dont love ya
HE wants us all dead . MY advice , THIS LAMB FOLLOWS CHRIST and if JESUS said it , WELL I BELIEVE IT .
 
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Amigo.....Let me say this and let's see if I can be clear for those that are reading along.....

The CC has added stuff to the bible that is not in there.
BUT
The CC teaches the gospel.....
They teach how to be saved.

Here's the BIG PROBLEM with Calvinism:

It DOES NOT TEACH anyone how to be saved because they think only God gets to pick and choose who will be saved
BASED ON NOTHING.....they teach a very unloving, unmerciful and unjust God.

AND

There is NO GOSPEL in the reformed/Calvinist faith.

So, if we want to be totally honest....Calvinism is the most damaging denomination in all of Christianity.

BECAUSE

1. There is NO GOSPEL.
2. There is no instruction on HOW to become saved.
IF the house is on fire
if the building is burning down
do we sit back and sing carols like all is well , OR DO WE GET BUSY telling folks THE BUILDING IS ON FIRE GET THE HECK OUT OF IT
and doing all to help them .
WELL INTERFAITH IS SATANS GLUE by which that of anti christ shall merge the decieved as one RIGHT TO THE LIE .
So with that being said , and the buidling being CHRISTENDOM , ITS TIME TO WARNthese people .
THE HOUSE IS BURNING FOLKS and if ya dont get out YA GOING DOWN WITH IT
IF i led a church i would put a bible in everyones hand and had taught Just the pure truth IN IT .
Men have done a great tragedy and many have done so while using the name of EVEN JESUS to do it .
This is not gonna bode well on the day of the LORD . TIME to do all to help this people .
 
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Amigo.....Let me say this and let's see if I can be clear for those that are reading along.....

The CC has added stuff to the bible that is not in there.
BUT
The CC teaches the gospel.....
They teach how to be saved.

Here's the BIG PROBLEM with Calvinism:

It DOES NOT TEACH anyone how to be saved because they think only God gets to pick and choose who will be saved
BASED ON NOTHING.....they teach a very unloving, unmerciful and unjust God.

AND

There is NO GOSPEL in the reformed/Calvinist faith.

So, if we want to be totally honest....Calvinism is the most damaging denomination in all of Christianity.

BECAUSE

1. There is NO GOSPEL.
2. There is no instruction on HOW to become saved.
My friend let me also say this and lets see if we can clear this up .
I would not follow calvin or his doctrine to burger king let alone AT ALL .
That there man was as bad as the pope cept he didnt have as much influence .
Nor would i follow king henrys anglican church .
The scary thing is the only reason that church was invented was due to
Henrys fight with the pope about not recognizing his adulterous marriage . HECK even the pope had that right
and henry dead wrong . Folks would marvel at some how of these denominations even got their start
and the doctrine , MAN the smell is rotted to the core . BUT and this is key , EVERY FALSE ONE
will never teach ALL LIES . THEY WILL have truths too . IT is why they can decieve so easily . an appearnce of TRUTH
with some seriously blasphemy whipped into the mix .
 
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Oh please don't be sorry for me BF.....
You know I only do what I want to do
and say what I know is right.

Now tell me this:
WHY should God be merciful to me?
Are you claiming that He is a merciful God?

How can that be when He doesn't give everyone the chance/opportunity to become saved and spend eternity in heaven with Him?

See. You constantly make statements that make no sense at all.

Under Calvinism God:
IS NOT LOVING
IS NOT MERCIFUL
IS NOT JUST


So,,,,please explain WHY He should be merciful to me??
Paul and silas . they sang in prison after being beaten . singing and thanking GOD .
A major earthquake come upon the place . the prison doors busted open .
the jailer awoke
ready to kill himself paul cries to do yourself NO harm we all are still here .
The jailer comes running up and asks the best question of his entire life .
What must i do sirs TO BE SAVED .
Would it not have been a tragedy had paul said , WELL according to calvin either your predetermined to hell or life
SO you figure it out ,
Rather paul gave the ONLY ANSWER NECESSARY . and beleive me IT WAS NOT INTERFIATHS LIE either
cause he sure didnt seem to say , OH our truth is no better than your truth or any other religoins truth
just try and do the golden rule .
NO he said EXACTLY was what necessary . and IT DO INCLUDE THE BELEIVE WORD . BELEIVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
WHY did peter tell the church about the one day as a thousand years and not to count it slack as all men count it slack .
GOD DESIRES something . what was it may i ask .
REPENTANCE , GOD DESIRES LIFE for the people . NOT death .
BUT HE DID CHOOSE THE ONLY WAY . BY the preaching of the gospel of CHRIST JESUS
so that all who do BELIEVE , there it is again that BELIEVE WORD , would be saved . SO
i have a real simple idea . RATHER than all the predestiantion and etc
WHY WONT THE CHURCH JUST PREACH JESUS TO THE LOST . cause WELL if one beleives THEY WOULD BE SAVED .
 
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what a lovely simple thought . WHY NOT JUST PREACH TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
to all that has breath and LET GOD add who will be saved .
So simple . THEN teach the believers ALL THINGS he taught and later the apostels did , all the bible .
Sounds real simple to me .
 
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Oh please don't be sorry for me BF.....
You know I only do what I want to do
and say what I know is right.

Now tell me this:
WHY should God be merciful to me?
Are you claiming that He is a merciful God?

How can that be when He doesn't give everyone the chance/opportunity to become saved and spend eternity in heaven with Him?

See. You constantly make statements that make no sense at all.

Under Calvinism God:
IS NOT LOVING
IS NOT MERCIFUL
IS NOT JUST


So,,,,please explain WHY He should be merciful to me??
WHY should GOD be merciful to us . WELL we dont deserve it , that BE FOR SURE AND FOR CERTAIN .
Perhaps HE IS JUST MERCIFUL and DESIRES the death of none
and desires all glory
SO HE DID SEND THE SON so that all who do BELIEVE would be saved and HE GLORIFIED IN THE SON .
But beleive me REBELLION does not GIVE GOD THE GLORY , NOR CAN REBELLION save one soul .
SO my advice , LETS PREACH JESUS THE CHRIST and ALL BIBLCAL TRUTH . LET CHRIST be magnified
in us whether by life or by death . HE IS the GLORY OF GOD .
OF which ALL MEN have fallen far short OF THE GLORY of GOD , I MIGHT add .
AND IN HIM , those who DO BELIEVE HAVE THE SPIRIT by which we can now do the things PLEASING TO HIM .
ITS real simple if ya ask me . But what do i know , i just love to read the bible
and am no scholar . But do beware we have many scholars at work and man have they twisted some stuff .
I SAY READ THE BIBLE for our learning . TRUST IN GOD and learn the lovely words of truth
OF WHICH EVERY WORD from warning to promise is GOOD FOR OUR SOUL .
 
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One more thing....
I WISH I could define myself as Catholic.
But I cannot.

Do I seem like the type of person that would NOT define myself as Catholic if I were?

I don't espouse Catholic doctrine on these forums because I don't agree with all of them.....

OTOH,,,,,YOU are a calvinist and don't even know it.

Life is a funny thing.....
OH i do hear ya friend .
Now allow me another serious reminder . Then i am gonna ask you a question at the end of it
and then give a biblical response .
Every false leader , wolf in wool that stands to teach this people , and i see such a one
or hear of it and examine it and it be true that its false
I AM GONNA EXPOSE IT and ITS DOCTRINE .
now for the question .
DO ya think that sounds a little hateful or maybe judgemental or non loving .
Think on it .
NOW for a biblical answer .
I have THIS against YOU , you ALLOW that false prophetess to teach and to seduce my people .
YEAH , i aint the hater or the monster . The churches have simply been duped into the judge not correct not mindset .
 
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Those who sin REBUKE before all that others may fear
If any that is called a brother be a fonicator , coveteous , etc
DO NOT even eat with such a man .
DO THAT SOUND LIKE HATE and non love to this church age .
SOMETHING has went wrong and that is why THE LEAVEN left uncorrected and judged not RISES UP TO LEAVEN IT ALL
 
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Any questions . there is much in the bible i will happily remind us with .
On that note i am off to rest a bit . You all have a blessed night now . AND do beware of wolves in wool
of which there are truly many now .
 
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One thing i notice is that while some can quoate the gospel verbatum , as even i once could yet walked in darkness ,
The gospel cannot and does not birth our spirit, it’s because of the gospel, that we can become Born Again, now you tell me why that is?

You can never in a million years be taught how to become Born Of The Spirit.,.that can only come by divine heart revelation, just as the written word confirms...supernatural faith is Alive and Active in our spirit/heart, it gives life to our heart/ spirit...only then can we know God, by His Living Witness the Holy Spirit.


Now let’s all feast on this, the Bible isn’t God....feast on the news everyone, that God is a Living Spirit, His witness is out there and if God chooses to Spirit gives birth to spirit,..then his will, will be done, so you have no worry of reading any Bible, to become Born Again...it’s a supernatural act of God and it comes by divine, heart revelation, just as his written word confirms, only Gods witness can testify with our spirit that we are Gods children...there are no instructions on how to be Born Of The Spirit.
 

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You say, “I’m a Born Again.” Just wondering, a born again what?


We are Born Again what? What are you asking , makes no sense?

Are you Born Of The Spirit?

The Holy Spirit is who births our spirit @LatterRain ..do you understand that?

The Living spirit rebirth..how would I know I’m Born Again?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?= by divine heart revelation...Gods seed permanently remains in our spirit, as our spirit is Born Again.
 
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Those who sin REBUKE before all that others may fear
If any that is called a brother be a fonicator , coveteous , etc
DO NOT even eat with such a man .
DO THAT SOUND LIKE HATE and non love to this church age .
SOMETHING has went wrong and that is why THE LEAVEN left uncorrected and judged not RISES UP TO LEAVEN IT ALL

Matthew 22:37-40​

King James Version​

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Please tell me how we would know how to do this? ☝️☝️☝️☝️





38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


what a lovely simple thought . WHY NOT JUST PREACH TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
to all that has breath and LET GOD add who will be saved .
So simple . THEN teach the believers ALL THINGS he taught and later the apostels did , all the bible .
Sounds real simple to me .
Let’s also teach/ preach, that we are Born Of The Spirit =By Gods Living Witness, His Living Holy Spirit.

Only he is the Spirit of truth...= The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children = A Living spirit birth = that comes by divine heart revelation.
 
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