why no beast (Antichrist) name nor false prophet name given

[Douggg]

John wrote what he saw and heard.

Surely he saw the name of the beast written on people's foreheads. As well as, saw the mark of the beast. As well as, heard the name of the false prophet.

So why did John not write those things down ?

It is because when the voices of the seven thunders spoke in Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what they uttered.

So in the utterances of those thundering voices, was the names of the beast and false prophet, and what the mark of the beast will be.

Which John, therefore, did not write down anywhere in Revelation.

 

[Galgal]

John wrote what he saw and heard.

Surely he saw the name of the beast written on people's foreheads. As well as, saw the mark of the beast. As well as, heard the name of the false prophet.

So why did John not write those things down ?

It is because when the voices of the seven thunders spoke in Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what they uttered.

So in the utterances of those thundering voices, was the names of the beast and false prophet, and what the mark of the beast will be.

Which John, therefore, did not write down anywhere in Revelation.

On the heads of men is not a name, but the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast on the head is the habit of lying when it comes to personal gain. The mark of the beast on the right hand is the habit of stealing - including such methods of stealing as bank usury and surplus value - appropriating the share of hired workers.

The name of the beast from the sea is Wealth (KJV) or Prosperity (NASB).
The name of the beast from the earth is Tradition.
Both of these words are in the New Testament, their numerical value in the Greek is 666.

εὑπορία = (5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 + 10 + 1) = 666 (Acts 19:25)

παράδοσις = (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666 (Matthew 15:2)

The beast from the sea is the entire world system, the seven "heads" of the beast are the 7 empires that enslaved the Jews: Ancient Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and the USA.

The beast from the earth is the religion that serves this world.

 

[Douggg]

The name of the beast from the sea is Wealth (KJV) or Prosperity (NASB).
The name of the beast from the earth is Tradition.

No.

The names of both beasts are names of two individual men.

One man - the beast-king
the other man - the false prophet

The mark of the beast is the mark of the beast-king's name. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Douggg]

Before becoming the beast-king, the person goes through these stages highlighted in blue.

 

[Marty fox]

No.

The names of both beasts are names of two individual men.

One man - the beast-king
the other man - the false prophet

The mark of the beast is the mark of the beast-king's name. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Then how could a man be once was now is not and yet will come?

The beast and the false prophet are demonic beings possessing and influencing nations and their leaders

 

[Zachariah.]

John wrote what he saw and heard.

Surely he saw the name of the beast written on people's foreheads. As well as, saw the mark of the beast. As well as, heard the name of the false prophet.

So why did John not write those things down ?

It is because when the voices of the seven thunders spoke in Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what they uttered.

So in the utterances of those thundering voices, was the names of the beast and false prophet, and what the mark of the beast will be.

Which John, therefore, did not write down anywhere in Revelation.

Do you know what the mark of the beasts is? This mark can express itself in a number of ways. It's not a literal mark on the forehead. It is an outward expression of darkness and death. A manifestation of behavior.

 

[Douggg]

Then how could a man be once was now is not and yet will come?

The beast and the false prophet are demonic beings possessing and influencing nations and their leaders

Marty, I assume you are referring to Revelation 17:8.

That phrase indicates that the people of the world will be dumbfounded, amazed, when they see the person killed, then come back to life.

was alive
not alive
back alive

the beast-king and false prophet are two humans that will have Satanic backing. They will not be demons, although they may have demons carry out some of their agenda.

The beast-king will be a Jew. Part of Jewish mysticism is Kabbalah. Within Kabbalah circles, the belief is that advanced practitioners can have the angels carry out their (the practitioners) agenda and objectives.

In Daniel 8, speaking about the little horn person...

Daniel 8:
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

So the person will be practicing Kabbalah.

 

[Douggg]

Do you know what the mark of the beasts is? This mark can express itself in a number of ways. It's not a literal mark on the forehead. It is an outward expression of darkness and death. A manifestation of behavior.

No, I do not know what the mark of the beast's name is (yet). I also don't know the name of the beast (yet). Nor do I know the 666 basis for the beast's name (yet).

The mark of the beast will be a literal, visible, mark of some kind - as one of three required inscriptions in the right hand or forehead to be able to buy or sell.



Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Zachariah.]

No, I do not know what the mark of the beast's name is (yet). I also don't know the name of the beast (yet). Nor do I know the 666 basis for the beast's name (yet).

The mark of the beast will be a literal, visible, mark of some kind - as one of three required inscriptions in the right hand or forehead to be able to buy or sell.



Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

No, the mark of the beast is not litteral. And the meaning of 666 can be understood through the application of ancient gematria and a deep understanding of the Hebrew letters and their hieroglyphic roots.

If your interested, let me know.

 

[IronMaiden]

No, I do not know what the mark of the beast's name is (yet). I also don't know the name of the beast (yet). Nor do I know the 666 basis for the beast's name (yet).

The mark of the beast will be a literal, visible, mark of some kind - as one of three required inscriptions in the right hand or forehead to be able to buy or sell.



Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The mark of the beast is Satan’s mark.

 

[IronMaiden]

The mark of the beast is Satan’s mark.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 (NKJV) 1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains [will do so] until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the [lawless one] is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[Douggg]

The mark of the beast is Satan’s mark.

The mark of the beast is the mark of the beast's name (Revelation 14:11). The beast's name is not Satan.

If you mean that Satan inspires or directs the beast and false prophet what the mark will be - maybe.

We don't know for certain.

 

[Zachariah.]

The mark of the beast is the mark of the beast's name (Revelation 14:11). The beast's name is not Satan.

If you mean that Satan inspires or directs the beast and false prophet what the mark will be - maybe.

We don't know for certain.

I know for certain as I have done an eclectic variety of research regarding synbolism, numbers and the hebrew alphabet. And alot of it for that matter. And it doesn't stop there for me. I am very well educated in ancient philosophy because I have spent alot of time and attention in educating myself. I did offer you assistance in understanding but I'm guessing your pride and ego are to calcified.

And if you think it cannot be known, (anything for that matter) you have already failed. Truth can be known and understood. The Bible wasn't written so we couldn't understand it. It just requires work.

Good luck.

 

[Douggg]

I know for certain as I have done an eclectic variety of research regarding synbolism, numbers and the hebrew alphabet. And alot of it for that matter. And it doesn't stop there for me. I am very well educated in ancient philosophy because I have spent alot of time and attention in educating myself. I did offer you assistance in understanding but I'm guessing your pride and ego are to calcified.

I did not make any comment about you personally.

And if you think it cannot be known, (anything for that matter) you have already failed. Truth can be known and understood. The Bible wasn't written so we couldn't understand it. It just requires work.

Provide an illustration of what you think the mark of the beast will look like.

 

[Zachariah.]

I did not make any comment about you personally.


Provide an illustration of what you think the mark of the beast will look like.

I told you that it's symbolic. Not litteral. And it can be understood through the study of the Hebrew alphabet and ancient gematria.

I know this because I have done it myself. Because these things can be understood if the time and effort is put in.

It's as simple as that. But if your going to take these things litteraly and seek outwards rather than inwards, you will never find yoir answers.

 

[Douggg]

I told you that it's symbolic. Not litteral. And it can be understood through the study of the Hebrew alphabet and ancient gematria.

I know this because I have done it myself. Because these things can be understood if the time and effort is put in.

It's as simple as that. But if your going to take these things litteraly and seek outwards rather than inwards, you will never find yoir answers.

Do you believe that the false prophet is symbolic ? Because he is the one who will enact the law that in order to buy or sell that a person must take the mark of the beast in their right hand or forehead.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[Brakelite]

John wrote what he saw and heard.

Surely he saw the name of the beast written on people's foreheads. As well as, saw the mark of the beast. As well as, heard the name of the false prophet.

So why did John not write those things down ?

It is because when the voices of the seven thunders spoke in Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what they uttered.

So in the utterances of those thundering voices, was the names of the beast and false prophet, and what the mark of the beast will be.

Which John, therefore, did not write down anywhere in Revelation.

Written IN the forehead, not on. In other words, the name, number, philosophy and beliefs and character of the beast was written on the mind... the consciousness... of the person. It isn't about a tattoo. It's about a decision one makes concerning worship. Revelation 13 is all about loyalty, worship, and deception. If its a conscientious decision that we believe is right, a choice we make though it be wrong, it is made in the temporal lobe of the brain which is is the forehead.
On the hand, it is a decision of convenience. We may not believe it to be a choice made on the basis of truth, but one made in order to avoid jail, fines, financial restraints.

 

[Douggg]

Written IN the forehead, not on.

In the skin. I think it will have to be something that can be seen - or maybe an implant.

 

[Douggg]

I know this because I have done it myself. Because these things can be understood if the time and effort is put in.

In Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

So the beast is the eighth king - the beast-king.

Do you have an opinion of what the beast-king's name is yet ?

 

[Marty fox]

Marty, I assume you are referring to Revelation 17:8.

That phrase indicates that the people of the world will be dumbfounded, amazed, when they see the person killed, then come back to life.

was alive
not alive
back alive

the beast-king and false prophet are two humans that will have Satanic backing. They will not be demons, although they may have demons carry out some of their agenda.

The beast-king will be a Jew. Part of Jewish mysticism is Kabbalah. Within Kabbalah circles, the belief is that advanced practitioners can have the angels carry out their (the practitioners) agenda and objectives.

In Daniel 8, speaking about the little horn person...

Daniel 8:
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

So the person will be practicing Kabbalah.

So are you giving Satan the same power as Jesus having power to raise the dead? Only God can give life

How can one person also be 8 kings?

Can people also be cast into the lake of fire alive?


People will be judged after death before being cast into the lake of fire

It’s clear that they are demons just like we read about in Daniel chapter 10