The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

[ewq1938]

I did not say 7years of tribulation. But the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

Jesus said it was to be shortened so it cannot still be 7 years.

 

[Truth7t7]

I did not say 7years of tribulation. But the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27. And the 7 years of Ezekiel 39:9 following the Gog/Magog event.

In Revelation 12:6 are the 1260 days. Then the time, times, half time of Revelation 12:14 after Satan is cast down to earth in Revelation 12:12.

Answered in post #80 Above

Revelation Chapter 11 is self explanatory and in chronological order, the beast and two witnesses will be on this earth together up to the final hour(s) of earth's existence

 

[Douggg]

Explain how the beast kills the two witnesses and they lay dead on earth for 3.5 days, they are raised and the same hour the Great earthquake and the second woe passes and the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding and the dead are judged all seen in Revelation Chapter 11

Don't forget you want to falsely claim (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) aren't on this earth in the same time frame, when Revelation Chapter 11 teaches they are together right up to the final hour(s)

Douggg nobody's buying your unscriptural man made theories, your in denial of God's very clear words presented before your eyes over and over "Scary"!

In Revelation 11:2, 42 months is used.
In Revelation 11:3 the very next verse, 1260 days is used.

The reason for the difference is because.....

1260 days first half.....then 3 1/2 days dead in the streets....then come alive and ascend to heaven .... with 1256 1/2 days left in the 7 years.

Those 1256 1/2 days are called 42 months.

So...
1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256 1/2 days) = 2520 days (7 years)

 

[ewq1938]

In Revelation 11:2, 42 months is used.
In Revelation 11:3 the very next verse, 1260 days is used.

The reason for the difference is because.....

Months are used for the enemy but days for God's people. Teh two times are essentially concurrent. In no way should they be added together. The beasts are destroyed the day Christ returns so not another 42 months left for them.

 

[Douggg]

Jesus said it was to be shortened so it cannot still be 7 years.

Jesus did not say the 7 years would be shortened. Jesus was referring to the great tribulation time frame being cut short of all flesh on earth being wiped out. ie. the length of the great tribulation will be limited, so that all life on earth will eliminated.

Jesus was not saying the length of the tribulation will be be reduced to something less than 1335 days.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

[Truth7t7]

In Revelation 11:2, 42 months is used.
In Revelation 11:3 the very next verse, 1260 days is used.

The reason for the difference is because.....

1260 days first half.....then 3 1/2 days dead in the streets....then come alive and ascend to heaven .... with 1256 1/2 days left in the 7 years.

Those 1256 1/2 days are called 42 months.

So...
1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256 1/2 days) = 2520 days (7 years)

Once again you jump back into douggg's fantasy land, Revelation Chapter 11 is self explanatory and in chronological order as you've been shown several times

The Beast and Two Witnesses will be on this earth together in the same time frame to see the final hours

Douggg you want to run away from Revelation Chapter 11 in a fairy tale diversion, when the Chapter clearly shows the beast kills the two witnesses and 3.5 day's later their raised to heaven, then the final hour unfolds in the the 2nd and 3rd woes taking place in the 7th angel sounding and the final judgment taking place (The End)

(The Time Of The Dead, That They Should Be Judged) The End!

It appears that we have run about the Bush at least 3 times on the same subject, I strongly disagree with your teaching and belief

 

[ScottA]

I would say that your words apply to Scott A.Taylor who's a "Full Preterist" concerning prophecy fulfillment

Jesus Is The Lord

STOP CALLING NAMES. What you are saying is not true.

 

[Douggg]

The Beast and Two Witnesses will be on this earth together in the same time frame to see the final hours

The world will be making merry, celebrating, exchanging presents for the 3 1/2 days the two witnesses bodies lay dead in the streets of Jerusalem. So what will be condition of the world in it's final hours of the great tribulation ?

A third of mankind will be getting destroyed by the huge armies of 200,000,000. And you think that the world will be making merry, celebrating, exchanging presents with one another - at that time ?

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus did not say the 7 years would be shortened. Jesus was referring to the great tribulation time frame being cut short of all flesh on earth being wiped out. ie. the length of the great tribulation will be limited, so that all life on earth will eliminated.

Jesus was not saying the length of the tribulation will be be reduced to something less than 1335 days.

He was saying that it would be shorter than originally intended. If the 7 years is two consecutive periods of 42 months, then nothing was shortened. That doesn't match what Jesus said.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

 

[Truth7t7]

The world will be making merry, celebrating, exchanging presents for the 3 1/2 days the two witnesses bodies lay dead in the streets of Jerusalem. So what will be condition of the world in it's final hours of the great tribulation ?

A third of mankind will be getting destroyed by the huge armies of 200,000,000. And you think that the world will be making merry, celebrating, exchanging presents with one another - at that time ?

The armies are gathered to kill the two witnesses who are in Jerusalem, when they are killed yes the world celebrates because the two witnesses tormented the earth through plagues

The armies surround Jerusalem the camp of the saints/witnesses, then its the 7th angel sounding in the second coming, final judgment, and fire from heaven (The End)

Revelation 11:10KJV
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[ewq1938]

The Beast and Two Witnesses will be on this earth together in the same time frame to see the final hours

Neither are on Earth in teh supposed final hours. Rev 19 has the two beasts being destroyed at Armageddon and the "two witnesses" are in heaven and thus aren't on the Earth so how can either be "on this earth together in the same time frame to see the final hours"?

 

[Douggg]

He was saying that it would be shorter than originally intended.

It was not originally intended that all flesh on earth would be wiped out.

 

[Douggg]

The armies are gathered to kill the two witnesses who are in Jerusalem, when they are killed yes the world celebrates because the two witnesses tormented the earth through plagues

The beast kills the two witnesses not the armies of 200,000,000.

No, nobody is going be making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts at the time of Jesus's return. The wicked of the world will be in fear, because Jesus and His armies of heaven will be approaching earth.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 11:10KJV
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 20:9 is after the 1000 year millennial reign of Jesus.

Jesus returns to this earth in Revelation 19. The destruction of the armies gathered to make war on Him and His armies of heaven, the raptured/resurrected saints, will take place in Revelation 19:21, as Jesus speaks and those armies die.

Revelation 19:
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[tailgator]

The beast kills the two witnesses not the armies of 200,000,000.

No, nobody is going be making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts at the time of Jesus's return. The wicked of the world will be in fear, because Jesus and His armies of heaven will be approaching earth.

The beast and ten kings have an army

Sure they will be people celebrating for three days before Christ comes Muslims believe if they kill Dajjals armed forces ,Jesus will come and kill Dajjal near the gate of Ludd.They will most certainly be celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.

Muslims will be celebrating worldwide when the two witnesses and the gentiles lay dead in Jerusalem..

 

[tailgator]

Neither are on Earth in teh supposed final hours. Rev 19 has the two beasts being destroyed at Armageddon and the "two witnesses" are in heaven and thus aren't on the Earth so how can either be "on this earth together in the same time frame to see the final hours"?

The two witnesses do not ascend into heaven in the cloud till resurection day .The day Jesus comes and casts the beast and false prophet alive into the lake of fire.

The two witnesses and beast spent the previous 42 months together on earth.

 

[Douggg]

1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256 1/2 days) = 2520 days (7 years)

In my post 83, I explained why in Revelation 11:2 the expression is 42 months, while in the very next verse Revelation 11:3 the expression is 1260 days.

Now I will explain why in Revelation 12:6 the expression 1260 days is used, while in Revelation 12:14 the expression time, times, half time is used, to total the seven years.

Revelation 12:6, the two witnesses feed Israel the Word of God for 1260 days. Then in Revelation 12:7-9 the war in the second heaven takes place. It is not revealed how long that war lasts in terms of earth time. All of the time expressions in Revelation pertain to events taking place here on earth.

After Satan and his angels are cast down to earth, Satan will have but a short time left of a time, times, half time - Revelation 12:14.

So...the single line formula is...

1260 days + the undisclosed war in heaven time + the time, times, half time = 2520 days (7 years)

similar to...

1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256 1/2 days) = 2520 days (7 years)


The times that will take place here on earth are...

in the first half
1260 days Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6

in the second half
3 1/2 days Revelation 11:11
42 months Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5
time, times, half time Revelation 12:14

 

[Douggg]

Sure they will be people celebrating for three days before Christ comes Muslims believe if they kill Dajjals armed forces ,Jesus will come and kill Dajjal near the gate of Ludd.They will most certainly be celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.

The making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts will be over the death of the two witnesses - not over the fall of Jerusalem.

In the days before Jesus returns, no one is going to be making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts because the wicked will be in fear.

There will be no believers in Islam at that time.

And you have the end times beliefs of the Muslims wrong. What they believe is the Mahdi and his armies will be engaged in a pinnacle battle with the Dajjal and his armies. Then at the height of that battle is when the Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa, their name for Jesus) will come and kill the Dajjal and his armies.

The Muslim description of the Dajjal, their version of the Antichrist, is that he will have a damaged eye that budges like a grape and has the name "kafir" on his forehead. None of that stuff is going to come to happen.

 

[tailgator]

The making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts will be over the death of the two witnesses - not over the fall of Jerusalem.

In the days before Jesus returns, no one is going to be making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts because the wicked will be in fear.

There will be no believers in Islam at that time.

And you have the end times beliefs of the Muslims wrong. What they believe is the Mahdi and his armies will be engaged in a pinnacle battle with the Dajjal and his armies. Then at the height of that battle is when the Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa, their name for Jesus) will come and kill the Dajjal and his armies.

The Muslim description of the Dajjal, their version of the Antichrist, is that he will have a damaged eye that budges like a grape and has the name "kafir" on his forehead. None of that stuff is going to come to happen.

And when the Muslims have killed the two witnesses and their army ,then the Muslims will celebrate the fall of Jerusalem.

Make no mistake.The Muslims take Jerusalem when they kill the two witnesses,3.5 days later Jesus comes to Jerusalem..So for 3.5 days,the Muslims will be celebrating.




"the city shall be taken"

Zech 14

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

 

[tailgator]

The making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts will be over the death of the two witnesses - not over the fall of Jerusalem.

In the days before Jesus returns, no one is going to be making merry, celebrating, exchanging gifts because the wicked will be in fear.

There will be no believers in Islam at that time.

And you have the end times beliefs of the Muslims wrong. What they believe is the Mahdi and his armies will be engaged in a pinnacle battle with the Dajjal and his armies. Then at the height of that battle is when the Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa, their name for Jesus) will come and kill the Dajjal and his armies.

The Muslim description of the Dajjal, their version of the Antichrist, is that he will have a damaged eye that budges like a grape and has the name "kafir" on his forehead. None of that stuff is going to come to happen.

PS
As you should know.The Muslims are told to attack dajalls army after a three year drought .

It doesn't rain for three years prior to the beast ascending out of the bottomless pit and killing the two witnesses and their army

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