Both Israelis and Islamists will be wiped out

[Keraz]

Then the nations

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

The great multitude in Revelation 7:9, are not and cannot be the nations. They wear the white robes of the faithful and righteous.
They are the Christian peoples, gathered soon after the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster and depopulation of the Middle East.

Jesus will stand on Mt Zion and select the 144k out from them; Rev 14:1:7 They will proclaim the coming Kingdom.

Please cease from making wild guesses about what the Bible means, or your private opinion on end times events.

 

[tailgator]

The great multitude in Revelation 7:9, are not and cannot be the nations. They wear the white robes of the faithful and righteous.
They are the Christian peoples, gathered soon after the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster and depopulation of the Middle East.

Jesus will stand on Mt Zion and select the 144k out from them; Rev 14:1:7 They will proclaim the coming Kingdom.

Please cease from making wild guesses about what the Bible means, or your private opinion on end times events.

False.
The word of God is not a wild guess about who the great multitude is.Anyone who have eyes that can read the words"of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues"know what it means.

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;



As for the 144,000.They are exactly what he word of God says they are.12 thousand from 12 tribes of Israel listed.Gods word is not a wild guess.

Please cease from calling the word of God a wild guess.

 

[Wick Stick]

Sure,the passages you have been talking about

The 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel in revelation 7 are differentiated from the other nations of the world which are also mentioned in revelation 7

First,the 144,000 of Israel.

Revelation 7
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Then the nations

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Did you just use Rev 7 to justify your interpretation of Rev 7? I can't really get with that, because it's circular reasoning.

 

[Wick Stick]

Please cease from making wild guesses about what the Bible means, or your private opinion on end times events.

That's ironic. I think many people would feel that way about your opening post.

 

[tailgator]

Did you just use Rev 7 to justify your interpretation of Rev 7? I can't really get with that, because it's circular reasoning.

I didn't interpret revelation 7.It needs no interpretation.

It lists the 144000 of 12 tribes of Israel with God's name in their fourheads and a great multitude from the nations.

What is there to interpret?

 

[tailgator]

That's ironic. I think many people would feel that way about your opening post.

He makes alot of wild guesses.The one I find most amusing is the mass coronal ejection that wipes out half the world

 

[Wick Stick]

I didn't interpret revelation 7.It needs no interpretation.

It lists the 144000 of 12 tribes of Israel with God's name in their fourheads and a great multitude from the nations.

What is there to interpret?

I might be confusing you and ecq. I was talking to you both and one of those conversations was about how to interpret Rev 7.

Which one of you pointed out that it uses the same langauge as a chapter in Ezekiel? Because that was a good point/find.

 

[Wick Stick]

He makes alot of wild guesses. The one I find most amusing is the mass coronal ejection that wipes out half the world

I mean... that's actually pretty likely to happen. Not from a Bible standpoint, but just scientifically.

 

[ChristinaL]

Jewish Israel and the Islamic peoples will not be present after the Sixth Seal.
The current Jewish State of Israel and the surrounding Muslin nations and entities, are Prophesied to be gone after the great and terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath, which is the next Prophesied event we can expect. Revelation 6:12-17, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, +

Of the House of Judah, the Jewish people: the Lord says:
Isaiah 3:1-7 The Lord is about to strip Judah of every good leader. He will appoint incompetent youths to lead them.

Isaiah 3:8-9 Jerusalem/ Judah is brought low, they defy the Lord and rebel against Him. The look on their faces testifies against them, like Sodom; they parade their sins.
Woe betide Judah, they have earned the disaster that strikes them.

Isaiah 3:24-25 As tongues of fire burns up the chaff…..for they have spurned the Lords instruction and rejected the Word of the Holy One. The anger of the Lord is roused against His people and He strikes them down…..corpses lie like refuse in the streets.

Isaiah 22:14 Words revealed from the Lord: Assuredly your wickedness will never be wiped out. You will die for it.

Jeremiah 2:28-30 ….Judah has as many gods as towns, you are rebels, every one of you. I have punished you, but the lesson was not learned.

Jeremiah 5:1-14 Search Jerusalem for anyone who acts justly, who seeks the truth…..They refuse to learn and make their faces like flint…..Shall I fail to punish Judah for this?... I shall burn up this people like brushwood.

Jeremiah 8:8&12 How can you say: We are wise, we have the Law of the Lord, when the scribes with their lying pens have falsified it?

They ought to be ashamed, but they have no sense of shame. Therefore; Judah will fall with a great crash on the Day of Reckoning.

Jeremiah 11:14-16 So; do not pray for these people, raise no plea or prayer on their behalf, for I shall not listen when they call to Me in the hour of disaster. They have no right to be in My house. [Holy Land] Once the Lord called you an olive tree…now: with a great roaring noise, fire will consume it.

Jeremiah 12:14-17 These are the Words of the Lord: I shall remove the evil neighbors from the Land I allotted to My people and I shall uproot Judah as well. But if they will learn the way of My [Christian] people, then I allow Judah to establish families among My people. Any peoples who refuse to listen, will be destroyed.

Ezekiel 8:17-18 …it is no small matter for Judah to practise these abominations here. They have filled the Land with violence and provoked My anger. I shall turn on them in My rage and show them no pity, I will not listen if they cry to Me.

Ezekiel 21:1-7 Turn toward Jerusalem and Prophecy against the Land of Israel< Say to the Land: I am against you, I shall use My Sword of Judgment and make away with both the righteous and wicked peoples, against everyone from the Negev; Northward.

Ezekiel 22:31 I poured out My wrath on them and utterly consumed them in My blazing anger. Jerusalem’s people received the punishment they deserve.

Ezekiel 33:25-29 You violate the Law, yet you expect to keep possession of the Land?

Daniel 12:1 Archangel Michael will appear at the end time, after a time of severe distress and disaster, as has never before happened. At that time, your people, the Jews, will be delivered, but ONLY those whose names are Written in the Book of Life.

Hosea 6:11, 12:2 For you; Judah – a harvest of reckoning will come.

Amos 2:4-5 For crime after crime of Judah, I shall give them no reprieve. They have spurned the Laws of the Lord……therefore; I shall send fire upon Judah…..

Zephaniah 1:14-18 On the great Day of the Lords wrath, by the fire of His punishment, I shall bring a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land.

Zechariah 13:7-9 ….Strike the shepherd and scatter the sheep. Two thirds of the people will be struck down and die. The remaining third will be refined and only a remnant will survive.

Zephaniah 3:12-13 I shall leave a remnant, survivors who made the Lord their refuge.

Luke 19:27 As for those enemies of Mine, who did not want Me as their King, bring them here and slaughter them in My presence.



The Fate of the Islamic evil neighbours:

Psalms 83:17 Let them be humiliated and live in terror, suffer disgrace and perish.

Isaiah 33:10-12, Now I shall arise, you will be as chaff and stubble. Matthew 3:12

Whole nations will be like heaps of white ash, as thorns set ablaze.

Jeremiah 9:25=26 The Lord says: The time is coming when I will punish all who are only circumcised in the flesh. All who live in the desert regions, are uncircumcised in their hearts. Romans 2:29

Jeremiah 12:14 The Lord says this about the evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land which I allotted to My peoples: I shall uproot you from your holdings and Judah too, I shall uproot. But if they learn the Way of My people, [become Christians] then I shall allow families to return. Jeremiah 50:4-5

Ezekiel 28:26 When I execute Judgment on all of Israel’s scornful neighbours, then My faithful peoples will live in the Land; undisturbed. Ezekiel 38:8b & 23

THEN all will know that I am the Lord.

The Prophets tell it plainly: The Lord will once again take action in His Creation, to reset our civilization, which is again; as in the days of Noah.

The timing, the means and the result of this world shaking event, is all as the Prophets inform us, but God has made it difficult to comprehend for those who have fallen for false theories and fables.

The bible is abundantly clear that Israel shall be judged but NOT wiped out. Get your facts straight and stop making God out to be a liar

 

[tailgator]

I might be confusing you and ecq. I was talking to you both and one of those conversations was about how to interpret Rev 7.

Which one of you pointed out that it uses the same langauge as a chapter in Ezekiel? Because that was a good point/find.

I was the one who pointed out when the servants of God have the name of God written in their foreheads in Ezekiel 9.


Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

 

[Bluemind]

Wow,

So God will break his promise to abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

ok....

There's another site I looked into and chose not to join because that type mindset proselytizes there.

 

[tailgator]

I mean... that's actually pretty likely to happen. Not from a Bible standpoint, but just scientifically.

I agree,not from a bible standpoint.

 

[Keraz]

That's ironic. I think many people would feel that way about your opening post.

I only used 27 scriptures in the OP. Did you actually read and understand them?

I agree,not from a bible standpoint.

Explain then; What is Isaiah 30:26a referring to, if not an explosion from the sun? And Malachi 4:1 & 3?

The bible is abundantly clear that Israel shall be judged but NOT wiped out. Get your facts straight and stop making God out to be a liar

Only a Christian remnant of Jewish Israel will survive. Romans 9:27
Isaiah 20:1-4, describes them; hiding in underground bunkers.

 

[Bluemind]

There's another site I looked into and chose not to join because that type mindset proselytizes there.

Is there a way to remove their account from my sight on this forum?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Is there a way to remove their account from my sight on this forum?

You want to stop seeing a certain persons post?

 

[Bluemind]

You want to stop seeing a certain persons post?

Yes. The one that started this discussion. I don't have time for that deplorable mindset.

 

[Wick Stick]

I only used 27 scriptures in the OP. Did you actually read and understand them?

Boy is this argument tired.

As always, the answer is that I am not arguing with Scripture, it's only your interpretations of it that I questioned. And when I asked earnestly for explanation, you didn't offer anything. You said,

"I do not see a proper and complete fulfilment, in the first Century; of any of the verses."

Well, I agree - you do not see. I have a pretty good idea why, too.

Explain then; What is Isaiah 30:26a referring to, if not an explosion from the sun?

In Isaiah chapter 30, God tells Israel not to ally themselves with the Egyptians in the coming war against the Assyrian army. He promises to fight on their behalf. The prophecy is fulfilled in Isaiah 37, when the Assyrians besiege Jerusalem, and God goes forth and destroys their whole army in a night.

You should really read whole chapters and books rather than plucking verses out willy nilly.

 

[tailgator]

I only used 27 scriptures in the OP. Did you actually read and understand them?

Explain then; What is Isaiah 30:26a referring to, if not an explosion from the sun? And Malachi 4:1 & 3?

Only a Christian remnant of Jewish Israel will survive. Romans 9:27
Isaiah 20:1-4, describes them; hiding in underground bunkers.

I said the great multitude which scripture says comes from.the nations ,come from the nations and you disagreed and said it was a wild guess

You obviously did not know I quoted the word nations from the word of God that says the great multitude comes from the nations.


Try to see the word of God Keras.
If you can.


"of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, "

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes. The one that started this discussion. I don't have time for that deplorable mindset.

If you click on their name you can hit ignore and you will not see anything they post

 

[tailgator]

I only used 27 scriptures in the OP. Did you actually read and understand them?

Explain then; What is Isaiah 30:26a referring to, if not an explosion from the sun? And Malachi 4:1 & 3?

Only a Christian remnant of Jewish Israel will survive. Romans 9:27
Isaiah 20:1-4, describes them; hiding in underground bunkers.

And false Keras.
Those are not christians hiding underground from the lamb in revelation 6.
Christians don't hide from Jesus.They are gathered to Jesus.

Revelation 14:1
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.