Ritajanice
Born-Again
We Love God from our heart/spirit, why, because that is where he loved us first.
Hidden Mysteries of the Bible
- Thread starter Episkopos
- Start date
-
Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.
You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
Remember the fall of Shebna.
15 Thus saith the Lord God of hosts, Go, get thee unto this treasurer, even unto Shebna, which is over the house, and say,
16 What hast thou here? and whom hast thou here, that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock?
17 Behold, the Lord will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee.
18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.
19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down.
20 And it shall come to pass in that day,
Yes, it is possible to fall away or be spewn out, and it's sadly happening to most of the church in our time.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
well dont forget he beleives one can do this WITHOUT BELIEF IN JESUS THE CHRIST . so while it might sound good
remember man cannot do or attain this at all . AND if one confesses not JESUS the CHRIST
they are NOT BORN again and do NOT FOLLOW JESUS THE CHRIST , OR THE SPIRIT . keep that in mind sister . keep that in mind .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
YEAH , AND just what is this falling away , ITS THIS INTERFAITH junk pile of inclusivity
which WONT dare remind one soul of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
oh we in a huge falling away all right . The time has come when many now even believe
ONE does NOT EVEN HAVE TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . and when i say and talk about this , sadly
i am talking about a very large and growing percentage within christendom . I even happen to know of
a few on this site even . Who might be able to talk about concepts of the SPIRIT , the CROSS
the walk , BUT will come after those who REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
keep that in mind . the deception will continue to grow and to abound and many will buy the lie .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Yes!!!....Amen!!
For me, that’s the mystery,....a sincere heart ,that we must come to God with, he 100% knows when we’re faking it,... plus another thing, if we come to him with sincerity of heart, his supernatural faith will then come into play, so to speak.
The flesh is dead, the Spirit is Alive and Active in us....fully surrender to the Lord, there is nothing on the planet like it...,heart faith...moves mountains., it’s a completely different level of faith, imo..it’s a much deeper level of faith, there is nothing superficial in it. it’s hard to explain, you just know that you know in one’s spirit, that you are 100% focused on God, nothing can take your eyes and ears away from him, full surrender to the will of God..
The mystery for me, is how he works in our hearts, it’s mind blowing and so real.
Can you believe, that has taken 33 years to get to that level of understanding, plus the Lord helped me get to this place, there is nothing I can understand, without his opening of my eyes and ears.....it’s when we’re focused on “ self” therein lies the problem..imo..
Just my thoughts, written down..
ps, the heart is where it all begins...Praise God and give Him Praise..Glory, Honour ,Respect , come before Him, with a thankful heart...
Short commentary .that I post, resonates with my heart.
the key to God's heart. Prayer is the best weapon we have; it is the key to God's heart. You must speak to Jesus not only with your lips, but with your heart.
What does it mean when God gives you the keys?
When you access the kingdom of God with the keys he has given us, then you also unlock the wisdom and insight of God. With this insight, you can see life from God's perspective because this is not insight that comes from earth, but divine insight that comes from heaven through the power of the Holy Spirit.
“ Heart Faith....that Epi, most definitely resonated with my spirit.
Thank you for posting, helping me grow only in Christ and not in self...Praise and thank you Father God.
Last edited:
I’m sure we have no disagreement with faith that moves God, and that David had faith and was a man after God's heart. Christ’s power/authority/rulership and the kingdom are delegated to those who have faith, they go hand in hand, but I’m not sure it can be said that power/authority is the same thing as faith itself…? Faith was laid on his shoulder…? Sensitivity to the Spirit was laid on his shoulder..? But the key to the city/kingdom was given to David (government/rulership laid on his shoulder) BECAUSE he had faith, no? All authority in heaven and earth was given to Jesus because He was worthy, and He delegates His authority/power to us His church…..whatsoever we bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatsoever we loose on earth will be loosed in heaven....the keys to the kingdom likewise delegated to the church, His body:
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
But it's important to remember the power/authority/rulership are CHRIST’s…and faith is even HIS, not of our own……the glory belongs to Him not to us. It’s not about us, but about Him. We are not the ones worthy in our own right, but He is.
I agree. In all these things we are more than conquerors. Only our conquests are not like David's military ones, they are greater than that, because they are spiritual/heavenly in nature. I'm not talking about a political position either. Christ does not occupy a political position. I’m talking about the kingship/rulership of a heavenly kingdom. David and his earthly kingdom of Israel was only a type and shadow of the spiritual/heavenly…..Christ and His church ruling & reigning with Him (and through Him).
The mystery of Christ has been revealed to those who believe (by faith not of our own). No idea what you mean by passing a quiz on judgment day.......that’s not now or ever has been how I "imagine" it.
Amen brother. Apostasy......the strong delusion. Sobering to remember that it is being sent by God to all who received not a love of the truth. He is on the throne sovereignly ruling even though it may look like the enemy has the upper hand. Interfaith for Christians means being unequally yoked with the world......friendship with the world which is enmity with Him.
Jesus said no man can come to the Father but by HIM. This is Christianity 101, the foundations of the faith that is being denied by many now.
@Episkopos.........I'd like to ask what are your thoughts about those scriptures which say friendship with the world is enmity with God, and that we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers but to come out from among them and be separate? I've mentioned those passages more than once before but you didn't take the opportunity to affirm and agree with them or to comment on them at all. What do they mean to you, and do you agree with them? or would you qualify them in any way perhaps?
This is your indoctrination speaking.....the way you are so easily captured by other dogmatic head believers. Start a thread on the dire need to be indoctrinated with Amigo. ;)
The principalities want you to condemn righteousness....in order to justify your dogmatic beliefs. Right now I'm speaking WAYYY over your head. You would have to know about how God works and how the devil works. You would have to understand how the devil deceives the WHOLE world. The fact that you ask silly questions shows the open door to whatever wind of doctrine is blowing through.
I disagree wholeheartedly with ANY indoctrination of the mind. I am a spiritual Christian. I stand against the flesh...especially Christianized flesh. Once you let go of that, THEN you can embrace the truth that is in Christ.
Otherwise start a thread on the "dire need to be indoctrinated into thinking you are saved by having certain beliefs ABOUT Jesus".
I only understand those scriptures by the Spirit, Epi. It is understanding that HE has given me. I didn't receive it from man. Anyone can accuse anyone of dogmatic beliefs and indoctrination without providing any evidence at all. So what is your understanding of those scrips? If you feel you have a better grasp of them, this is another opportunity for you to share your take on it.
You flatter your own discernment skills... which are very slight.
You would have to have some discernment to discover your own lack thereof. So there is a conundrum.
I realize you don't understand the content of my posts...and want me to jump through the same carnal hoops that you think are qualifications for "acceptance" by God. Talk about the depths of deception.
But as to your questions....which you already asked me. I am married to a fellow disciple of Christ. Are you married to an unbeliever? Is that what this is about?
Are you looking for people to condemn in order to justify yourself like Amigo tries to do? Is this an ego boost opportunity for you?
God is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more merciful than you Pharisaical dogmatic head-religion types. Condemn not lest you also be condemned. Very simple Christianity 101.
If if you can't discern what is behind the mind games people play to avoid the truth...they are very apparent and predictable.
Last edited:
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I must say, Epi does speak a lot of spiritual truth....at one time, I hadn’t a clue what was talking about..I’m still not at his level...
I certainly understood what he meant by heart faith, made my heart skip...just my opinion.
I certainly understood what he meant by heart faith, made my heart skip...just my opinion.
Wow. So you are determined to keep hiding. We can draw our own conclusions as to why that is. A teacher who is unwilling to teach. That is strange because I would have thought this would be right up your alley since you talk about holiness a lot. Do you know that holiness means to be separate? And that this separateness is a requirement to be received by God as His sons and daughters? We are to discern and distinguish and divide between the holy and the common and keep them separate. Because MIXTURE is an ABOMINATION to the Lord. As in "when you see the abomination of desolation standing in the HOLY place......" Dear Lord......we need ears to hear that. Mixture means it is unclean.....unclean because it is mixture......the "unclean thing" we are not to touch.
This interfaith movement is not of God. It's MIXING the holy with the common and is not HIS righteousness but is the self-righteousness of man. Filthy rags, not holy. Do you agree or disagree with that?
2Co 6:14-18
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Anyone who can't affirm these scriptures cannot be of God.
I thought I didn't teach? I think you are unable to learn...always learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. I explain things in great detail. When I do so, you complain that it isn't a part of your indoctrination from the bible. So there is no moving forward with you. You are stuck in your own mind with it's already baked-in interpretations.
Is that all you have? God is just different? As in, there goes God, different isn't He?
Your carnal mind is in a loop. The Pharisees condemned Jesus as either a demonic teacher or else so misguided as to not understand the kind of sinners He was hanging out with.
Do you think that Jesus was marrying harlots and sinners? Is that what you mean by being unequally yoked? Is your concern for Jesus and His mercy towards non-dogmatic theorists such as yourself? Are you threatened by God's mercy?
And you didn't deny that you are married to an unbeliever. Is that where this is coming from? Are you unequally yoked?
If your concern is for the purity of my ministry....you may have missed my MANY citations about NOT having any companionship with the flesh...especially Christianized flesh. So then I reject your ministry, of course. There is a lot of counterfeit religion going on. And you still think the danger is OUTSIDE the church. Amazing.
And what do all your fears have to do with this thread?
LoveYeshua
Active Member
yes the only answer is Jesus He was given full authority (Matt 18:18) on earth and heaven, people keep saying Jesus is the answer because HE IS;
John 14:6: "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"
John 4:14. reads:
"But whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life."
Any brainwashed person can repeat an answer. But dogmatic types don't know the right questions.
Answer me this question. Who will reject you on judgment day? Answer?
Having all authority cuts both ways.
Why are you always making me the subject of discussion instead of discussing the subject? I know why and hope it is evident to others as well. You do that because you can't refute the simple truth that is being brought. But why such unwillingness to receive and acknowledge the truth.....is it that hard for you to accept that you may be wrong about some things?
Last edited:
You are the one making this personal. When I don't answer your personal questions, you react. I started this thread...and you are seeking to derail it. And you have the gall to accuse me of what you are doing. Certainly other dogmatic types will pipe in in your support. ;)
I hope you were looking in the mirror when you typed out this deviation from the topic of this thread.
