Hidden Mysteries of the Bible

[Episkopos]

It's the whole point . . . he's a troll. It's what he's done for years.

Much love!

Says the troll...the world upside down. This is not your thread....and a person doesn't troll their own thread. But someone who looks to attack personally will jump on any kind of accusatory post as something to partake in...like you always do...the troll.

Anyone one else want to acccuse me of what they are doing themselves? Let's have it! :)

 

[marks]

....and a person doesn't troll their own thread.

No, you aren't trolling the thead . . . you are trolling the forum. As you have for years and years. History speaks for itself.

Much love!

 

[Lizbeth]

You are the one making this personal. When I don't answer your personal questions, you react. I started this thread...and you are seeking to derail it. And you have the gall to accuse me of what you are doing. Certainly other dogmatic types will pipe in in your support. ;)

I hope you were looking in the mirror when you typed out this deviation from the topic of this thread.

Conversations often have an ebb and flow I find. But now you've decided to pull the off topic card just because you are afraid to come into the light and answer one question. It's you who have dragged out one question into several off topic posts when you could have simply answered in one post. You're transparent and predictable in spite of trying so hard to hide in the dark. Anyway, think I've said enough here.

 

[Ritajanice]

Look at this Brother,@Episkopos .

The mystery, revealed in the Bible, is described in various ways: the mystery of God (Colossians 2:2; Revelation 10:7), the mystery of His will (Ephesians 1:9), the mystery of Christ (Ephesians 3:4; Colossians 4:3), the mystery of the kingdom of God (Mark 4:11), the mystery of the gospel (Ephesians 6:19), the mystery ...


One of the biggest mystery for me is, how he baptises us in the Spirit...as he indwell us, he testifies with our spirit that we are his Children, mystery and mind blowing.

Just know that you are very much loved ,Brother on the forum,

The mystery of how he works in our hearts, conforming us into Jesus image...

The mystery of how he continually Loves us, which we know deep within our hearts/spirits.

The mystery of how he searches our hearts...softens our heart, opens up our spiritual eyes and ears...everything is in his timing.....I have often tried to hurry God along in situations, I know better now, than to do that...he’s also taught me great patience....coming before him with a sincere heart..draw close to him and he will draw close to us...

“Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you” (Ephesians 4:32). A sure sign of a sensitive heart is a steady posture of kindness and tenderness towards everyone you meet. To be kind is to embody the very life of God and his kindness to us!
Also remember .

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Marvelloustime]

YEAH , AND just what is this falling away , ITS THIS INTERFAITH junk pile of inclusivity
which WONT dare remind one soul of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
oh we in a huge falling away all right . The time has come when many now even believe
ONE does NOT EVEN HAVE TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . and when i say and talk about this , sadly
i am talking about a very large and growing percentage within christendom . I even happen to know of
a few on this site even . Who might be able to talk about concepts of the SPIRIT , the CROSS
the walk , BUT will come after those who REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
keep that in mind . the deception will continue to grow and to abound and many will buy the lie .

Brother @amigo de christo is spotted.

 

[Marvelloustime]

YEAH , AND just what is this falling away , ITS THIS INTERFAITH junk pile of inclusivity
which WONT dare remind one soul of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
oh we in a huge falling away all right . The time has come when many now even believe
ONE does NOT EVEN HAVE TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . and when i say and talk about this , sadly
i am talking about a very large and growing percentage within christendom . I even happen to know of
a few on this site even . Who might be able to talk about concepts of the SPIRIT , the CROSS
the walk , BUT will come after those who REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
keep that in mind . the deception will continue to grow and to abound and many will buy the lie .

@amigo de christo

 

[LoveYeshua]

Any brainwashed person can repeat an answer. But dogmatic types don't know the right questions.

Answer me this question. Who will reject you on judgment day? Answer?

Having all authority cuts both ways.

you dont even know me how can you say this, get out of here.

 

[Behold]

It's the whole point . . . he's a troll. It's what he's done for years.

Much love!

Its his ministry.
He sells theological nonsense, on the way there.

 

[Ritajanice]

What does the Bible say about Jesus' heart?
But the crowning attribute of Christ was this: His heart was spiritual. His thoughts reflected His intimate relationship with the Father. “I am in the Father and the Father is in Me,” he stated (John 14:11). His first recorded sermon begins with the words, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me” (Luke 4:18).

Also @Episkopos .

Head faith = Agreeing with a list of facts.Heart faith = Beliefs that produce good works. Here's how they say it works. A person can know and believe things about Jesus (supposedly head faith), but until that knowledge produces life change, it's not heart faith

James 2:14-26

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14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 

[Episkopos]

you dont even know me how can you say this, get out of here.

It's scary how little to no wisdom there is among modern believers. People assume that all will be well with themselves in spite of the fact that so many will be rejected from the presence of the Lord. There is so much fantasy being preached that any dose of reality seems too bitter a pill to swallow. And yet the truth is what sets people free. Moderns will have none of it. Can this generation of believers escape judgment?

The fear of the Lord is still just the very beginning of wisdom. The experience of holiness is understanding. And a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

 

[Johann]

It's scary how little to no wisdom there is among modern believers. People assume that all will be well with themselves in spite of the fact that so many will be rejected from the presence of the Lord. There is so much fantasy being preached that any dose of reality seems too bitter a pill to swallow. And yet the truth is what sets people free. Moderns will have none of it. Can this generation of believers escape judgment?

The fear of the Lord is still just the very beginning of wisdom. The experience of holiness is understanding. And a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

You're just a troll-with your brand of gospel nowhere to be found in Scripture, half truths, void of the Spirit.

J.

 

[Episkopos]

You're just a troll-with your brand of gospel nowhere to be found in Scripture, half truths, void of the Spirit.

J.

 

[Johann]

You owe @Lizbeth an apology @Episkopos.

J.

 

[Episkopos]

You owe @Lizbeth an apology @Episkopos.

J.

No need to apologize to me. You will have to face the Lord whom you have zero respect for. Hating the truth brings with it a definite end.

 

[LoveYeshua]

No need to apologize to me. You will have to face the Lord whom you have zero respect for. Hating the truth brings with it a definite end.

You threaten and you judge,
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?' (Matthew 7:3-4)

in any case I am done with you, do not bother replying, I do not have time to waste with trolls.

 

[Episkopos]

You threaten and you judge,
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?' (Matthew 7:3-4)

in any case I am done with you, do not bother replying, I do not have time to waste with trolls.

Thank you for trolling on my thread. Find another thread that can appeal to your need for flattery and a general ego-boosting. Seek and you will find. Remain as you are. Don't take any truth to heart. You are above all that.

 

[Episkopos]

In spite of the many trolls and decoys that visit my threads I still hold out hope for genuine seekers who seek out counsel from God and NOT trust to the indoctrination they receive from human religious institutions and franchise churches that seek to woo people away from the truth that saves people.

 

[Lizbeth]

The mystery, revealed in the Bible, is described in various ways: the mystery of God (Colossians 2:2; Revelation 10:7), the mystery of His will (Ephesians 1:9), the mystery of Christ (Ephesians 3:4; Colossians 4:3), the mystery of the kingdom of God (Mark 4:11), the mystery of the gospel (Ephesians 6:19), the mystery ...

Mystery means hidden/secret. The mystery of God hid from the foundation of the world in scripture is the Messiah Christ and His gospel/kingdom message. Hid to those who don’t believe, but now wonderfully revealed to the saints in Christ ever since He came and fulfilled what was prophesied and written about Him and hidden in all the types/shadows of the OT scrips. I just love these scriptures and how clearly they show us what the mystery of God is talking about:

Mar 4:11-12

And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Rom 16:25

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

1Co 2:7

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory

Eph 1:9-11

Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will

Eph 3:3-6

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

Eph 3:4-6

Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel

Eph 3:9-11

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord

Eph 6:19

And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel

Col 1:26-27

Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory

1Ti 3:9

Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

1Ti 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Rev 10:7

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

(Now some will no doubt call it unspiritual and immature and superficial to show how it all was pointing to Christ and His gospel, but remember it is hid from the wise and learned and revealed to little children and that we must become as little children.)

 

[Lizbeth]

It's scary how little to no wisdom there is among modern believers. People assume that all will be well with themselves in spite of the fact that so many will be rejected from the presence of the Lord.

I agree with this..... it is true, sadly. It doesn't bode well for those who don't understand and can't affirm that this applies to a church which doesn't remain separated unto God (holy) but becomes unequally yoked with unbelievers (the world) and engages in enmity with God (friendship with the world). It's what Mystery Babylon is all about....the mother of spiritual harlots.

 

[Lizbeth]

What does the Bible say about Jesus' heart?
But the crowning attribute of Christ was this: His heart was spiritual. His thoughts reflected His intimate relationship with the Father. “I am in the Father and the Father is in Me,” he stated (John 14:11). His first recorded sermon begins with the words, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me” (Luke 4:18).

Also @Episkopos .

Head faith = Agreeing with a list of facts.Heart faith = Beliefs that produce good works. Here's how they say it works. A person can know and believe things about Jesus (supposedly head faith), but until that knowledge produces life change, it's not heart faith

James 2:14-26​

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King James Version​

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14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Amen....and yet unfortunately there is someone here who believes that those who only have head faith and not the heart faith which is of the Spirit of Christ, are our brothers and sisters (specifically Catholics)......aka he is yoking with unbelievers and would have us to be. Mixture = unclean.