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Taken
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The question had the key words “explored other religions” and “to the extent”…. Thus my answer was “no”.
In brief…
I looked at primary major world religions…
Christianity -
Judaism -
Islam -
Buddhism -
Hinduism -
Atheism -
Their preface, intent, influencers, conclusions.
All have an element of three basic things…
1) natural law / behaviors
2) philosophy
3) political law / positive & negative (penal)
* All have “splits / divides”
* The “splits/ divides” primarily “in a nut shell..”hang on the most successful influencer’s ability to Philosophically
Convince…which OFTEN…
The philosophical ‘influencer”… has a “political”…”wealthy”…”power wielding” … connection to “foster” their “intent”.
* Philosophy … can be a good thing or bad thing… Depending on it’s CORE.
* CORE, meaning “broad intended consequence”…. To lift up or oppress.
* I stand cautious of “philosophers” and “philosophies”… with it unique nature to SAY what others WANT to HEAR, while intending to EFFECT the complete opposite…(with BTW overwhelming success…)
Bottom line…in brief….every major religion incorporates philosophy into “their person to person teachings”….The point being…TO tickle the ears, get the desires result of “agreement’….then proceed with the back-door, behind the curtain, secretive, dastardly intents for the people at large.
* Christianity…(NOT accrediting ALL teachers of Christianity…RATHER accrediting the Lord Gods CORE Teaching….)
* WARNING…against falling for the Ear tickle, without investigating the TRUE end result.
* So, yes IN BRIEF… I gave SOME energy to the “major influencers” of “major world religions”… “their intents”…. “Their ties to wealthy backers”….”their (influencers and backers”) “long range effects on the people at large”… (broadly, not impressed).
* So, yes IN choosing to exert my energy, I elected Christianity.
Glory to God,
Taken
MA2444
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That I made you angry now? Jesus is the one who draws a straight line with a series of crooked ones, and it does seem convoluted at times, but that's just something that we need to accept aout the Lord and chalk it up to we'll find out later! But you want to talk about all that stuff instead and there is a wrongness to that.
Ecclesiastes 7:13-14
13 Accept the way God does things,
for who can straighten what he has made crooked?
14 Enjoy prosperity while you can,
but when hard times strike, realize that both come from God.
Remember that nothing is certain in this life.../NLT
MA2444
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He's right it's not possible. Say for instance when I die I go before the judge and it's that Hindu elephant God thing that they have....Why dont you know me the elephant says? Because you born me as an American and you knew that they put a KJV Christian bible in my hand when I was young....how was I supposed to learn that you are the true God if you never even put your bible in my hand, or caused it to be?
I see what you mean said the Elephant.
And you've read the word, right?
Luke 11:11-13
11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?.../KJV
So if this is true and it is, then I dont need to search any other religions, none, zada, zip.
But it sounds like to me that you have never explored Christianity very deep. Havent you ever asked for the Holy Spirit? Oh. Still need to do that? Go ahead, you'll see! Lol.
Faith is the substance, the assurance of things unseen....so why wont you use yours? Your assurance would come.
Thanks for you detailed and thoughtful post.
It seems that if a Christian explores other world religions at all, it is through literature with a Christian bias.
So, not really a step outside of Christianity. In this regard, Christians live in fear, for the most part.
This link below was provided earlier on the forum. Quite amazing.
I won't be abandoning my Christianity to become Buddhist, but this is
direct from the source with no Christian bias to get in the way.
Buddha's Miracles Manifest - Sravasti Abbey - A Buddhist Monastery
The Day of Miracles commemorates the time Buddha displayed his miraculous powers for 15 days. Many thousands of minds were transformed. Here's the story.
sravastiabbey.org
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
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MA2444
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I haven't read this book, but my wife swears by it: Without Buddha I could not be a Christian : Knitter, Paul F : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet ArchiveThanks for you detailed and thoughtful post.
It seems that if a Christian explores other world religions at all, it is through literature with a Christian bias.
So, not really a step outside of Christianity. In this regard, Christians live in fear, for the most part.
This link below was provided earlier on the forum. Quite amazing.
I won't be abandoning my Christianity to become Buddhist, but this is
direct from the source with no Christian bias to get in the way.
Buddha's Miracles Manifest - Sravasti Abbey - A Buddhist Monastery
The Day of Miracles commemorates the time Buddha displayed his miraculous powers for 15 days. Many thousands of minds were transformed. Here's the story.
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
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While I understand your point... that is not why I have not read it. God works where He does and for His reasons. Who am I to question what is happening in the lives of others... unless He has given that to me as a task to do?Buddha's Miracles Manifest - Sravasti Abbey - A Buddhist Monastery
The Day of Miracles commemorates the time Buddha displayed his miraculous powers for 15 days. Many thousands of minds were transformed. Here's the story.
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
| Joh 5:3 | In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. |
| Joh 5:4 | For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had. |
Consider what is written here as well:
| Mt 7:22 | Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? |
| Mt 7:23 | And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. |
Taken
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Scripture can be “confusing”…If one does not pay attention to the; who, what, when, why, where.
And yes, bit by bit, little by little “learning” and the “understanding” later…want YOUR mindful understanding…consult your own Mind….want Gods understanding….consult the Lord….intercessor…(less you are converted, then you have direct access to God in Jesus’ name)…
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
Well-Known Member
Thanks for you detailed and thoughtful post.
It seems that if a Christian explores other world religions at all, it is through literature with a Christian bias.
So, not really a step outside of Christianity. In this regard, Christians live in fear, for the most part.
This link below was provided earlier on the forum. Quite amazing.
I won't be abandoning my Christianity to become Buddhist, but this is
direct from the source with no Christian bias to get in the way.
Buddha's Miracles Manifest - Sravasti Abbey - A Buddhist Monastery
The Day of Miracles commemorates the time Buddha displayed his miraculous powers for 15 days. Many thousands of minds were transformed. Here's the story.
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
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You are welcome.
Most religions have a, not really sure what to call their “title” so to speak….but a stand out person whose teaching is pretty much about “behaviors” amongst men….that serves well in common practice whether or not as ‘religious’ schooling…
The Bible calls it…”precepts”….
it is aside from “laws, commands, statutes”..
Lending a hand, forgiving trespasses, being just when dealing with others, etc.
I think any religion a person is “exploring” would find those things attractive and gain interest.
Both God then later Jesus reiterated…on the topic of …”BELIEVE me because I say so”…
That is a tough one for a human…Men tend to believe what they can SEE, rather than HEAR…
God switched it up….here’s the deal….
God said what he WOULD DO…
Wait and SEE if it happens.
Jesus said similar…If you can not BELIEVE
“My words”…..stick around….”See IF you believe my works”….
Jesus was “ridiculed” for much He SAID….
And the people “amazed in awe” for what they SAW Him do.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
MA2444
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That's why it is alwys good to pray to Holy Spirit before reading the word. ask Him to give you rhema aand talk to you. He gave me this scripture:
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work..../NLT
This is not somwthing that is for special people. This is available for all Believers. If you pray and get a connection with the Holy Spirit it is now ones spirit reading His word and not our carnal man. And this helps understanding scripture. That is the Holy Spirits job, to lead us into all truth.
Once we learn to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit it's fairly easy to learn to be able to hear the still small voice of God. And He will talk to you all day long if you let Him.
Sometimes I ask Holy Spirit to pick a video for me to watch and He does! I've asked Him in th grocery store should I buy this? Most the time He says no. He wishes I would eat normal food. Fresh food real food which is hard to come by anymore, lol. Plus it's thru the roof in price. I look at the produce, it's high too and hardly ever looks any good all beat up and brown and stuff. It's homemade pizza tonight! Lol.
Aunty Jane
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Jesus died to save us from a deadly inheritance, which was brought about through no fault on our part.
But each one of us has to show God who we really are…..only he knows our true character, and whether he deems us worthy of citizenship in his incoming Kingdom. It’s not the smartest, the most knowledgeable or the most spiritual, because all three can be side tracked by their own efforts and convince themselves that they are separated from the “ignorant” and “unsaved”….
Your question is truer than many imagine…..Jesus did die to save us from the punishment that will be meted out to the unbelievers who say “there is no God”….and the ones who purport to be Christians but who use it as a blind for doing their own thing in private. God knows our thoughts and motivations and has examined everyone who claims Jesus as their “Lord”……it means little in the final analysis….
As Jesus said in Matt 7:21-23….
”Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works* in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’”
So assuming oneself to be “saved” can be a very rude revelation in the face of such a rejection. There are excuses offered in case Jesus has it all wrong….as if he could. If Jesus can say he “NEVER” knew us, then we have no argument or excuse to declare ourselves righteous.
Every single one of us will be caught in the act of being ourselves……we can’t fool the one who reads hearts, not just minds. (1 Sam 16:7) He does not just see the actions but also what motivates them.
The heart in Scripture is a most fickle and unreliable thing…..(Jer 17:9) It usually gets what it wants….and believes what it wants.
St. SteVen said
sravastiabbey.org
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
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Buddha's Miracles Manifest - Sravasti Abbey - A Buddhist Monastery
The Day of Miracles commemorates the time Buddha displayed his miraculous powers for 15 days. Many thousands of minds were transformed. Here's the story.
If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would say that you probably wouldn't dare to read it.
Exceedingly few on this forum will. Because... fear rules Christianity.
I should have "Taken" that bet. - LOL
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MA2444
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You've said that before and it's dumb. It may be true for some but not for all. God has not given me a spirit of fear but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (2nd Timothy 1:7)
Do not fear, fear not, be not afraid, do not fear are the most repeated phrase in the entire bible meaning it is very very VERY important to know this. Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will not fear for I am in Christ, and Christ is in me.
Fear dont rule me and I am Christianity. I am the donkey who has never been trained or carried a burden that Jesus rides to His triumphant victory. I may not know hardly anything but I am in Christ and abide in Him so it will not come near my dwelling. A thousand may die at my side and 10,000 at my right hand but it wont come to me!
I forget who but someone said once that fear is just an acronym.
False Evidence Appearing Real
Taken
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Fear of the Lord is Reverence unto Him.
Fear of demons and men is being afraid.
A man IN Christ…is in-dwelt with the supreme POWER beyond what is in this world.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
MA2444
Well-Known Member
Fear of the Lord is a whole 'nother subject! I have plenty of experience with that. (Yikes).
But the Lord is not the valley of the shadow of death or the earth so do not fear those things. Fear the one that can destroy your soul in hell, for sure. I felt the terror of the Lord before. And He did not not rebuke me for it with words. He just repeated His instruction to me in a different tone, a warming tone, like the one us parents have used on our kids when we want to send the message, Just do it! Or big trouble!
I did the same thing Zachariah did and he got struck dumb for it, so I praise the Lord that He didnt do that to me! Thank you Lord! I learned a huge lesson that day.
Triumph1300
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1) Would a good God punish me for asking the hard questions?
God does not punish Christians for asking questions.
2) Why do I believe what I believe?
I have no idea about what y o u believe.
3) Is this a good reason to believe in this?
Believe in w h a t??
4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?
No.You can belief whatever you like.
5) Have I explored other religions to the extent that I explored Christianity?
No reason for it. Christ is the only one we need.
6) What if you are the one in the wrong religion?
I am not in a religion. I am a Christian. Christianity is not a "religion".
7) How would my faith community react to my exploring these questions?
No idea. Don't matter anyways.
God does not punish Christians for asking questions.
2) Why do I believe what I believe?
I have no idea about what y o u believe.
3) Is this a good reason to believe in this?
Believe in w h a t??
4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?
No.You can belief whatever you like.
5) Have I explored other religions to the extent that I explored Christianity?
No reason for it. Christ is the only one we need.
6) What if you are the one in the wrong religion?
I am not in a religion. I am a Christian. Christianity is not a "religion".
7) How would my faith community react to my exploring these questions?
No idea. Don't matter anyways.
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