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He wont rebuke someone for asking hard questions..

He will rebuke someone who comes to a public forum, to abuse God and His word.. with false accusations, and then they make this worse by lying when they say they are just "asking hard questions".

See, if you were sincere, and honest, you would ask God your silly questions, in private, and not try to ACCUSE God and the word of God, on a forum with your silly questions that are actually accusations..., for everyone to READ so that they can, as you hope, become confused, or doubtful, or become disrespectful of God and the Bible.
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I'm not here to abuse God. I'm here to defend God from the misdirected claims of Christians.
I do this by asking challenging questions. I'm not challenging God, I'm challenging believers locked in a closed system.

Presented as:
No questions = belief = heaven
Questions = unbelief = hell

The issue isnt your questions, @St. SteVen .

The issue is you using a Pubic forum, over and over to voice your doubt about the Bible, while you post your accusations against God, under the guise of "questions".

This is abuse of the Holy, and you pretend you are just "asking questions"...

So, who on the Forum is God?
Your questions are ON THE FORUM, to the FORUM..
So, if you were honest, you would be asking GOD, not the forum, "questions" that you say, you are "asking God".
Did I say I was asking God? (on the forum)
If I was as you say I am, I would simply be ignored. Not the case.
About 200 topics to date. Some with 10k views. Many with hundreds of replies.

He's this one..,

"Its a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of THE LIVING God".

"God is not MOCKED".

"JESUS is the avenger of all those who would try to deceive other Christians, regarding business".


See that Jesus and that Father God?

Take a good look and reconsider your purpose for being on this forum, @St. SteVen .
That's the view of God I am here to challenge.
Who is here to abuse God? (not me)

And when did you show God or His Son any love on this Forum?

Where is a THREAD by you, that exalts and glorifies and LOVES God and Christ"?

THAT does not EXIST as that is not what your Threads are designed to offer this Forum.

And if i know it, do you actually believe that God is oblivious?
See....Because the Mercy of God is what causes execution of Judgment against a Mocker, to be a while coming, you think this is humorous.
I'm not here to glad hand those who prefer an echo chamber of their limited view.
Plenty of that going on already.

This is the pattern I see in so many Christians.
- Grand claims
- Playing the "God card" (to win the debate and end discussion)
- Hollow accusations
- Threats of violence from God

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I'm not here to abuse God. I'm here to defend God from the misdirected claims of Christians.

@St Steven says..

"i want to ask God hard questions"..

So, i go to a public forum and post a Thread......Thread, Thread, X80.


See yourself yet?
Take a good look.


Also, should we hold our breath waiting for @St. SteVen to post one single THREAD, that only gives God praise, only Gives Jesus Love, and only speaks compliments regarding the word of God?

Well, as you've posted over 60 Threads that never do any of that, i advise the members to go ahead and take a deep breath..

You too, Mods....
 
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@St Steven says..

"i want to ask God hard questions"..

So, i go to a public forum and post a Thread......Thread, Thread, X80.
Looks like a misquote. Are you bearing false witness?

Do you miss the days of burning heretics at the stake? (feel the love)

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Looks like a misquote. Are you bearing false witness?

I'll let the reader decide that, and what you posted is coming from the mouth of the very person who needs to ask God "hard questions" on a Forum.

What i have shown you, is the kind version regarding a "head up" and a "fair warning".
Its better that i tell you, then God show you.

Believe it.

"behold you behave as tho God is taking my behavior, personally".

A.) Its a fact. that He does.

also, if the members.....If they need help understanding my point....., i'll refer them to your Threads.
If they need quotes, that'll be easy.

- see you there.
 
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Really?
Where did I say this?

Thank you.

"where did i say this"...

np.

here is where you said it originally

1) Would a good God punish me for asking the hard questions?""


Now, let me show you how you tried to deflect and lied.


notice...

""""I do this by asking challenging questions. I'm not challenging God,"""""


So, now you changed the entire premise of your deed. ,by redefining your "hard questions for God" as "I do this by asking challenging questions. I'm not challenging God,"""

And in fact you have to be pretty mind blown, to actually believe, that you can post "hard questions" that accuse God, and then try to redefine your own words, as "im not challenging God".

Listen little fella.......when you decided to post numerous Threads and Posts, that discount, and imply that God's bible, God's word, is less then it is... you definitely "challenged God"..
And your other Threads, that always imply negatives against God.......... are so numerous.. that only your POSTS that do the same, guised as "questions"... can equal them.

So, unless you are "stuck on stupid" and "pride filled above your intelligence"........ you need to listen to me, as im trying to lead you away from harm.

And im going to leave it there, for you........for now, and the Reader can decide the rest.
 
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1) Would a good God punish me for asking the hard questions?

If you asked the right questions you would not doubt it so wouldnt have to ask this question. IOW, if you have to ask, then you already know the answer.

4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?

Yes if it is the correct belief. Everyone has a heart and a conscience and know the difference between right and wrong.

Romans 2:15
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.).../NLT

So when people think about doing something and if it is a bad thing then their conscience will accuse them! We all know this, even gay people know it. OTOH if you think to do a good thing, some sort of good deed for another who is in need, your consciece will speak to you then also and you will know that is a good thing to do. The moral thing to do. You conscience is a function of your spirit.

I believe that our heart that scripture speaks of so much, must be a composite of...The intellect, the will and the emotions (which are all 3 functions of the soul) then sir in some conscience and shazaam you have a heart! What your conscience accuses you of doing a wrong or thinking about doing it, it affects your thoughts, your will and your emotions so they are there.

The good thing about the heart being able to access your train of thought and lets you think about what you're thinking about doing, and your emotions which will either confirm or deny what is happening as you run it through your head and gives the sppropriate emotion for you to determine if it would be a bad outcome or a good outcome.

So you know darn good and well what's the right thing to do in any given situation. People usually associate emotions with bad emotions, fear and stuff like that but thee is joy in ones emotions also, if it is a good thing that you plan to do. And this is what people say is their heart. I love her. Good emotion.

But you cant see your heart. This isnt the flesh heart that I'm talking about. But you already believe that you have a heart, and a conscience for that matter. So do you believe in them? Do you have faith in your ability to make correct decisions? Ask the right questions? Are you unsure? Then how could you have peace in your spirit if you have no belief? Lord help our unbelief.

So what has been given to us that allows us to know where God stands on your question or idea to do something or whatever? The word of God of course. The Lord dont care what your feelings are, there is His truth. So we dont make decisions with our emotions or how we feel. How emotions make you feel is simply a early warning system that tells you something is up, either good or bad or unknown! There's a higher function of the heart that will give us the right and moral and correct thing to do in any situation. It affirms Hey thats bad Dont Do It! or I will do the right thing and...I feel it in my heart that it is the best thing to do.

When we go against our conscience or heart (like by disobeying the word of God) it hardens our heart and damages it. So scripture warns us to guard our heart diligently! If you dont then it gets worse and worse and even their conscience gets seared. How could that murder those two liittle girls and their mother? He has no heart.

Our conscience is part of our spirit, and our spirit talks directly to the Lord Himself. Our spirit and conscience always know the right thing to do. Dont disobey your own spirit or conscience or that will harden your heart.
 
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If you asked the right questions you would not doubt it so wouldnt have to ask this question. IOW, if you have to ask, then you already know the answer.
Do you have an example of a hard question that shouldn't be asked?

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St. SteVen said:
4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?
Our conscience is part of our spirit, and our spirit talks directly to the Lord Himself. Our spirit and conscience always know the right thing to do. Dont disobey your own spirit or conscience or that will harden your heart.
Wouldn't this apply to all humans? Regardless of religion, or none at all?

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St. SteVen said:
4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?

Wouldn't this apply to all humans? Regardless of religion, or none at all?

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That applies to all humans.

Scripture does talk about those who have scorched their conscience. I believe this means when you go against your conscience or your heart too much that it's like they cant even hear their conscience anymore? Those are the people that will do anything, lie with anything, steal anything or abuse people aginst his own will. That must be when God gives themover to be reprobates? But tht cant be that many people can it?
 

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Do you have an example of a hard question that shouldn't be asked?

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Not really. Maybe some things that you have started threads about? You question God all the time it seems like. SOme of that stufff you write I think, whoa how can he even ask that?
 

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St. SteVen said:
Do you have an example of a hard question that shouldn't be asked?
Not really. Maybe some things that you have started threads about? You question God all the time it seems like. SOme of that stufff you write I think, whoa how can he even ask that?
Church culture and faux piety are to blame. IMHO

How is it that you can't think of any? Are you really that gullible?
You don't question anything you hear at church?
Oh, wait... Do you even attend church? (no wonder)

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What do you suppose is the source of morality in other religions?
If it is morality related to or even in some parts coincident with the Christian Way, perhaps some man (or men) was touched by God initially. Failing to pursue what was set before them they came up short of all that could have been available to them. Is not the same thing true of men who have embraced Christianity more directly but have not encountered the fullness of what God was offering?
 
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St. SteVen said:
Do you have an example of a hard question that shouldn't be asked?

Church culture and faux piety are to blame. IMHO

How is it that you can't think of any? Are you really that gullible?
You don't question anything you hear at church?
Oh, wait... Do you even attend church? (no wonder)

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Touched a nerve eh?
 

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If it is morality related to or even in some parts coincident with the Christian Way, perhaps some man (or men) was touched by God initially. Failing to pursue what was set before them they came up short of all that could have been available to them. Is not the same thing true of men who have embraced Christianity more directly but have not encountered the fullness of what God was offering?
It seems that we Christians inherited morality largely from the law given to the Israelites through Moses.
But it only came with condemnation. On the other hand, God-given human conscience was given to everyone.
That's what I call God's law, the law that was before the law given to Moses. Cain was a murderer, but by what law?

That which was "engraved in letters on stone" was the transitory ministry
of condemnation and death that has no glory now.

2 Corinthians 3:6-8 NIV
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone,
came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the
face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,
8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?

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It seems that we Christians inherited morality largely from the law given to the Israelites through Moses.
But it only came with condemnation. On the other hand, God-given human conscience was given to everyone.
That's what I call God's law, the law that was before the law given to Moses. Cain was a murderer, but by what law?

That which was "engraved in letters on stone" was the transitory ministry
of condemnation and death that has no glory now.

2 Corinthians 3:6-8 NIV
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone,
came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the
face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,
8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?

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After people began moving away from God [A&E or Cain], He has repeatedly provided the means for them to change their direction back toward Him. We see this within the written scriptures [the Bible]... but may we not also can see it in other parts of human history? Has God not always been there? But who has had, or has wanted to have, really, eyes to see Him and His Way? Consider the words of the blind man whose eyes Jesus healed:

Joh 9:27He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
Joh 9:28Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' disciples.
Joh 9:29We know that God spake unto Moses: as for this fellow, we know not from whence he is.
Joh 9:30The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes.
 
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You don't question anything you hear at church?

How could I do that if I dont go to church?

Are we at church now? Is this church? Do you consider yourself to have held a church service when you post?

You come up with wacky ideas for threads which hold wacky questions. I question some of them. I know you said they are reverse threads and you usually feel 180 deg off of what the questions were, but that is still wacky to me and I figured out why. It's because you teach people to dwell on the things of man with your statements and questions. Well that's what certain people think....but not me. It still gets them dwelling on the things of man, our rules and custioms that many people have lived by and so forth...when you should be teaching people to dwell on the things of God.

Speaking of the Lord and His goodness and mercy carries a very positive energy with it.

But your all, did God break the rules? Is the word even true? Is God stuck up and all that negative tripe. Oh I remember that it isnt you, lol. But it carries the wrong energy with it nonetheless.

Nuff said...
 

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... I figured out why. It's because you teach people to dwell on the things of man with your statements and questions.
On the contrary. That's not what I am about.

You left the church for a reason. I'm still there. What does that tell you?

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Seven questions:


1) Would a good God punish me for asking the hard questions?
No

2) Why do I believe what I believe?
* Momma said, you trusted.
* Daddy said, you trusted.
* Preacher said, you trusted.
* Became an adult, picked up a Bible, read, God said, and you trusted.


4) Is belief, or faith, a good measure for morality?
I would say neither. Rather;
* Knowledge
* How you truly feel in your heart, after an act of your behavior/choices.


5) Have I explored other religions to the extent that I explored Christianity?
No

6) What if you are the one in the wrong religion?
Not possible

7) How would my faith community react to my exploring these questions?
No issue.