Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[MA2444]

It is in doing the things they cannot do. Being an attractive companion, assisting my man in the calling God gave him, carrying a baby and nursing him or her, nurturing their emotional development instinctively, maintaining a comfortable home when all my husband's energy has gpne into working, teaching and mentoring younger women as Titus 2:3-5 commands.

I know your married. Women who think & talk like that get married quick!

 

[Wynona]

I know your married. Women who think & talk like that get married quick!

Thanks. Ive been married 9 years! Im 29. Like you, I started young.

 

[Mink57]

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I am not against women making money or doing what's needed to survive. But I am against this culture that devalues the role and blessing of women being in their homes.

I agree.

The shallow, negative depiction of home being boring, restrictive, and unfulfilling by many leading feminists and their supporters often doesn't even give homemaking as a viable option for young women today.

I think part of the issue (but ONLY part of it) may have been...and still is for some...is that the feminists who complained about homemaking being "boring, restrictive and unfulfilling" was because homemaking WAS "boring, restrictive and unfulfilling for THEM....AND, they may have assumed that because they were women that ALL women felt as they did.

And while I was a SAHM for a few years, I DID feel the tug of being unfulfilled, especially growing stronger as my daughters became a bit more independent. That is, they were in school, housework was done, and I wasn't a Soap-watching-daytime-talk-show-watching-kinda-gal. What's left?

Not once did anyone look at my good grades as a student and say being a good wife, mother, and homemaker would be a path I might want to consider.

Guess it depends. I LOVED school. I LOVED learning. "They" may have looked at you like, "If that's what you want, then what are you doing in college?"

It was a given that I would take on student debt and spend some of my most fertile years on someone's college campus. No one asked me if this is what I truly wanted. It was expected that I would.

No one asked me if being a wife, mother and homemaker was what I truly wanted, either. It was expected I would just...do it because...that's the way it was. That's what women do. They go to college to look for a husband; not to actually get an education, and to put that degree to use. So, while Feminism (second wave) was in full-swing, the public at large didn't catch on overnight. Some men I dated (mostly mid to late 70's) were in favor of Feminism, at least, from the standpoint of, "Sure! I have no problem with you bringing in a second paycheck...AS LONG AS, you still take care of me, the house and the kids." I remember thinking "Ugh" as soon as I heard that.

Feminism was supposed to give women choices. There's nothing in the bible that says that a woman MUST be a wife, mother and homemaker. Yeah, I recall (paraphrasing) that a woman "redeems" herself through child-bearing. But...what IF she CAN'T have children? Or, she gives up motherhood for the sake of the Kingdom?

 

[Mink57]

To keep it short, biblical patriarchy is a set of principles and lifestyles that acknowledge the headship of Christ over men and men over women (1 Corinthians 11:13), and the gender distinct callings of men and women and especially husbands and wives in marriage.

The husband is to lead, protect, provide for, honor, and sacrifice his very life for his wife and children (Ephesians 5). The wife is to obey, reverence, love, and keep the home for her husband and love her children (Titus 2:3-5).

Both parents teach and raise the children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.

As to what's bolded, how many MEN do you think actually do that?

 

[Mink57]

to correct wrong thoughts and bad behavoirs has become taboo in the church as well as society .
And it has led to them correcting ONLY ONE THING , THOSE WHO DO TRY and correct the error and bad decisions .
And guess what has society gotten better by doing this , NO SIRS and NO MAMS , its getting worse all the time .
WE should stick to what GOD says and not follow the ever changing ways of man .

Interesting. And...what do you think GOD says?

No, not what you THINK God says through others, but what does GOD say directly?

 

[Wrangler]

I know your married. Women who think & talk like that get married quick!

And stay happily married!

 

[Mink57]

And stay happily married!

Nope!

Which is why feminism took hold in the first place!

Feminists wanted to get rid of the BOYS who claimed to be MEN, who wanted nothing more than to kick their shoes off, after a hard days work, and IGNORE that maybe SHE had a hard days work, too!

If men wanted the 'right' to go off with their secretaries, why can women be in the same position?

Women started divorcing men because those men weren't STEPPING UP to be MEN.

MOST men are NOT like JESUS. If they were, MOST women would have NO PROBLEM 'submitting'.

What part of that DONT you get?

 

[Wynona]

And while I was a SAHM for a few years, I DID feel the tug of being unfulfilled, especially growing stronger as my daughters became a bit more independent. That is, they were in school, housework was done, and I wasn't a Soap-watching-daytime-talk-show-watching-kinda-gal. What's left?

My loose plan is to grow in ministry to others and a small business as my children grow more independent. Then help with grandbabies. If I get old enough, Ill just pray all the time like Elizabeth.

 

[Wynona]

@Mink57 I always have to be up to something to feel fulfilled. Right now Im asking myself, What could I accomplish in life with more discipline, planning, and focus (within biblical priorities as a guide for order?)

Could I write a book, meet my fitness goals, learn a language, or meet the needs of people who need help around me? There are a lot of potential things I can do. What should I do? Its a lot to consider. I want to make the most of my time here on earth. And honestly just show God what I can do with the talents he gave me.

 

[Wynona]

As to what's bolded, how many MEN do you think actually do that?

Not many. The faith is weakening in being taught well and being influential here in America.

My husband was not always mature. He was angry and controlling at times. But he was always committed to just me. He was always the one I was supposed to grow with, because he was willing to learn God's ways. I do see that not all men are like this.

They are not all unpolished diamonds. Some are just coal, because they refuse to love and fear God. Nevertheless, we must all take it on ourselves to love and fear God regardless of how others choose to act. This can cost a Godly woman her marriage, even. But our everything is in Christ, not keeping a marriage together at all costs.

 

[MA2444]

Nope!

Which is why feminism took hold in the first place!

Feminists wanted to get rid of the BOYS who claimed to be MEN, who wanted nothing more than to kick their shoes off, after a hard days work, and IGNORE that maybe SHE had a hard days work, too!

If men wanted the 'right' to go off with their secretaries, why can women be in the same position?

Women started divorcing men because those men weren't STEPPING UP to be MEN.

MOST men are NOT like JESUS. If they were, MOST women would have NO PROBLEM 'submitting'.

What part of that DONT you get?

I dont buy that at all. You just hung out with the wrong crowd is what I think.

 

[Wynona]

MOST men are NOT like JESUS. If they were, MOST women would have NO PROBLEM 'submitting'.

It is sounding like you agree with biblical patriarchy as a good standard---for the men at least.

Men being like Jesus is what biblical patriarchy is about.

 

[Wrangler]

And stay happily married!

Nope!

Rather than be agreeable, be contentious and argumentative on principle, what kind of principle is that again? The two active men posting in this thread recognize the poster who rejected feminism articulates an attitude and philosophy that would get any women to be married quickly and STAY happily married.

Mink, your ongoing EGO, lack of humility and contentiousness with all things that go against the evil ideology you've embraced makes me wonder what is the name of your husband? No husband.

The name of your long term boyfriend, then? Not even a boyfriend. Predictable as night following day. The relentless competitiveness and argumentativeness can only result in your circumstance. How many cats do you have? LOL

Spewing such relationship "advice" with such a track record is hilarious. "I got no expertise or track record of success but listen to me," says the unhappy and argumentative feminist.

 

[Wrangler]

The husband is to lead, protect, provide for, honor, and sacrifice his very life for his wife and children (Ephesians 5). The wife is to obey, reverence, love, and keep the home for her husband and love her children (Titus 2:3-5).

As to what's bolded, how many MEN do you think actually do that?

Almost all men. Almost all men lead, protect, provide for, honor, and sacrifice his very life for his wife and children. Thank you for asking.

Feminists have embraced impossible to meet standards and because they've poisoned their minds, they don't see this truth.

I've posted MANY vids showing entitled feminists think men should provide exorbitant first dates. If you read the quote @Wynona posted, she was referring to husbands. Evil feminists, with their sense of entitlement, don't have a husband but expect every random man to provide more than what is Biblically required, even of husbands, to provide for all their wants, not merely needs. And they are extremely ungrateful.

I almost did not notice that while Wyonna wrote 2 sentences regarding responsibility, your focus was on the part that does not pertain to you. Once again, feminists view responsibility as something that only pertains to men. Equality!

 

[Mink57]

@Mink57 I always have to be up to something to feel fulfilled. Right now Im asking myself, What could I accomplish in life with more discipline, planning, and focus (within biblical priorities as a guide for order?)

Could I write a book, meet my fitness goals, learn a language, or meet the needs of people who need help around me? There are a lot of potential things I can do. What should I do? Its a lot to consider. I want to make the most of my time here on earth. And honestly just show God what I can do with the talents he gave me.

I'm glad you wrote what is bolded. God did not give women the ONLY talents to be a wife, mother and homemaker. As I'm sure you already know, some women are HORRIBLE cooks. We don't have the cooking 'gene'. Cooking is a skill that is not innate in ALL women. And it's the same with men. Not ALL men have the talent -- or interest -- to work on cars. Not all women are interested in teaching or nursing (as a profession).

So what should you do? Find your passion in life. If your passion is to work on an oil rig, then DO it. If it's to become an astronaut, BE an astronaut. If it's to write, WRITE. If it's to be the best homemaker you can be, DO it. And don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

 

[Atarah]

"Strength and Honor are her clothing
she shall rejoice in time to come..."

The woman of Proverbs 31 is being praised. But her way of life is insulted today. In the United States and other western nations, feminism's mission to get women focused away from homes has been a big success.

From the late 1800s first wave of the movement till now, feminism was never simply about equal rights for men and women. Many leading feminists say that the option for women to be homemakers ought not to be an option at all in order for progress to happen.

Getting women away from homes is the true goal along with getting rid of patriarchy. No father or husband rule.

This is now the air we breathe. Many dont question it anymore. With the options women have now, you might expect us to be happier and more fulfilled than ever before...are we?

This thread's goal is to discuss these things, to promote Scripture's values, and to share my story of leaving feminism behind completely to pursue a very old and often misunderstood way of living.

I want the men to share freely. A lot of you have your own experiences with feminism and Scripture. Please share them. Ill be sharing over time here and there.

I think the goal of feminism, and of machoism as well, is the pursuit of real joy. Unfortunately, we too often choose the wrong path to take to achieve this. Jesus gave us a clue when he offered us his joy, that being, if you keep my commandments. I've put my research into finding joy in this essay at [removed: Please read forum rules under No Spam Christianity Board Forum Rules )

 

[amigo de christo]

Interesting. And...what do you think GOD says?

No, not what you THINK God says through others, but what does GOD say directly?

What a Lovely question indeed . What does GOD say . Very good for bringing up this reminder .
What does GOD say .
Well here goes .
You shall not HATE your neighbor in your heart you shall in any way rebuke , correct him and NOT allow sin upon HIM .
That IS what GOD says . And its what the apostels did and taught others to do as well .
Thanks for asking the RIGHT question .

 

[Mink57]

Rather than be agreeable, be contentious and argumentative on principle, what kind of principle is that again? The two active men posting in this thread recognize the poster who rejected feminism articulates an attitude and philosophy that would get any women to be married quickly and STAY happily married.

Mink, your ongoing EGO, lack of humility and contentiousness with all things that go against the evil ideology you've embraced makes me wonder what is the name of your husband? No husband.

No husband BY CHOICE.

The name of your long term boyfriend, then? Not even a boyfriend.

No boyfriend BY CHOICE.

Predictable as night following day. The relentless competitiveness and argumentativeness can only result in your circumstance. How many cats do you have? LOL

No cats BY CHOICE. Honestly Wrangler, you seem to believe that a woman can't possibly be happy unless she's paired up with a man...and that ANY man will do.

Spewing such relationship "advice" with such a track record is hilarious. "I got no expertise or track record of success but listen to me," says the unhappy and argumentative feminist.

Who says I'm UNhappy? You?

 

[Mink57]

Almost all men. Almost all men lead, protect, provide for, honor, and sacrifice his very life for his wife and children. Thank you for asking.

No, Wrangler. It's NOT almost all men who do this.

Feminists have embraced impossible to meet standards and because they've poisoned their minds, they don't see this truth.

And what standards are those that are impossible to meet? Oh, that's right. YOU believe that ALL feminists want the 6' tall man with washboard abs, and a 6 digit income, right? How WRONG you are!

I've posted MANY vids showing entitled feminists think men should provide exorbitant first dates. If you read the quote @Wynona posted, she was referring to husbands. Evil feminists, with their sense of entitlement, don't have a husband but expect every random man to provide more than what is Biblically required, even of husbands, to provide for all their wants, not merely needs. And they are extremely ungrateful.

Maybe it's time for you to GET OFF the videos, GET OUT into the real world, and GET INTO what is Biblically required of ALL.

I almost did not notice that while Wyonna wrote 2 sentences regarding responsibility, your focus was on the part that does not pertain to you. Once again, feminists view responsibility as something that only pertains to men. Equality!

Wrong again.

 

[Marvelloustime]

What a Lovely question indeed . What does GOD say . Very good for bringing up this reminder .
What does GOD say .
Well here goes .
You shall not HATE your neighbor in your heart you shall in any way rebuke , correct him and NOT allow sin upon HIM .
That IS what GOD says . And its what the apostels did and taught others to do as well .
Thanks for asking the RIGHT question .