Justified by Works

[amigo de christo]

Im sure your eye has caused you to sin since you got saved. Have you still got two eyes?

Lets not mock Christ .
It gets real tiring watching folks go around the teachings of Christ in order to justify the teachings of men .
JESUS was making a serious point . if we read in another gospel it says it would be BETTER to .
not that one HAS TOO . the point was and is , Dont sin . pretty strong point too i might add .
Many folks , AS I ONCE DID , lip the name of JESUS and yet turn him into the minstir of thier sin .
Believe you me they dont know HIM , just like i didnt know HIM either . And that is a very deadly
and very dangerous place to be . For more info
lets read the bible and get real acquainted with all them lovely words . just love and embrace them .
For they are meat to a lamb . Just a friendly reminder .

 

[GracePeace]

No, I believe this is not biblically correct.
This dialogue is "strained" and sounds like mortal and venal hamartia/Chet.
But thanks for the discussion.
I'm out of here.
J.

There is an assertion that the dialogue is "strained", but there is no substantiation of the assertion.

 

[uncle silas]

Lets not mock Christ .
It gets real tiring watching folks go around the teachings of Christ in order to justify the teachings of men .
JESUS was making a serious point . if we read in another gospel it says it would be BETTER to .
not that one HAS TOO . the point was and is , Dont sin . pretty strong point too i might add .
Many folks , AS I ONCE DID , lip the name of JESUS and yet turn him into the minstir of thier sin .
Believe you me they dont know HIM , just like i didnt know HIM either . And that is a very deadly
and very dangerous place to be . For more info
lets read the bible and get real acquainted with all them lovely words . just love and embrace them .
For they are meat to a lamb . Just a friendly reminder .

There was no mocking, only pointing out we cannot always read the bible literalistically

 

[GracePeace]

This dialogue is "strained" and sounds like mortal and venal hamartia/Chet.

I would not subscribe to the distinction of the Catholics based on Romans 14 (our discussion), because ANY THING AT ALL that does not proceed from faith is sin and leads to the sinner's condemnation--no distinction between eating food or observing a day and murder or adultery.

 

[GracePeace]

You hav e a head theology that is nowhere near reflected in your life

Can you answer Matthew 18 instead of slandering me for challenging you?

 

[uncle silas]

Can you answer Matthew 18 instead of slandering me for challenging you?

Ive already addressed it

 

[GracePeace]

You hav e a head theology that is nowhere near reflected in your life

You have a convenient theology that is nowhere reflected in Scripture. LOL

 

[GracePeace]

Ive already addressed it

Please show me where you've addressed it.
I remember you saying something about "talents", which is not Matthew 18, but Matthew 25.
Try again.

 

[uncle silas]

You have a convenient theology that is nowhere reflected in Scripture. LOL

You have a convenient theology that is nowhere reflected in Scripture. LOL

Oh it is, I gave you the verses after you told me i was wrong. We'd all end up in hell according to what youve written here today

 

[amigo de christo]

There was no mocking, only pointing out we cannot always read the bible literalistically

The more one reads it the more they begin to understand .
Did you know , for example , THERE is no part of what JESUS taught or later the apostels did
that contradicts Anything they said . OH i know most folks might see what they THINK might contradict
and sadly we got teachers even trying to pit paul against james , or saying things like pauls gospel verses peters gospel
or paul verses CHRIST . EVERY WORD IS TRUTH . and not a word of it contradicts .
Its just unlearned and unstable men have taught these churches for so long with their own misintepreations
that now a lot of christendom dont even know what is has lost , let alone IT IS STILL LOST .
i suggest lots of bible reading to all folks .
Men sure can decieve , heck they been doing it for centuries . for centuries .

 

[GracePeace]

Oh it is, I gave you the verses after you told me i was wrong. We'd all end up in hell according to what youve written here today

Anyway, answer Matthew 18 (not Matthew 25 about "talents").

 

[uncle silas]

Please show me where you've addressed it.
I remember you saying something about "talents", which is not Matthew 18, but Matthew 25.
Try again.

what is it in matt 18 you want addressed

 

[GracePeace]

Oh it is, I gave you the verses after you told me i was wrong. We'd all end up in hell according to what youve written here today

Your "answers" were all debunked--you're free to answer my answers.

 

[Johann]

I would not subscribe to the distinction of the Catholics based on Romans 14 (our discussion), because ANY THING AT ALL that does not proceed from faith is sin and leads to the sinner's condemnation--no distinction between eating food or observing a day and murder or adultery.

It's late here in South Africa and I do believe your choice of isolated verses is to steel man your case.
And this discussion is breaking up into fragments, I'm afraid, circular reasoning and I just know when to stop.
Shalom.
J.

 

[uncle silas]

Your "answers" were all debunked--you're free to answer my answers.

Like you told me a couple of days ago christians are under law and grace?

 

[GracePeace]

what is it in matt 18 you want addressed

I've already told you (and I've learned you need to hear the same answers over and over and over and over) : the parable of the unforgiving servant shows that a person can be forgiven of all their sins, yet, afterward, because of their behavior (not forgiving), can have the forgiveness rescinded.

Since forgiveness is by the righteousness of faith (Ro 4:6-8), the rescinding of the forgiveness is the removal of the man's faith, the "forgetting of his righteousness [of faith]", as Ezekiel 18:24 says God forgets not only sin but righteousness. Therefore, your idea that once you're a child you're always a child, or that denying the Lord can never lead to being rejected by the Lord is debunked.

 

[GracePeace]

It's late here in South Africa and I do believe your choice of isolated verses is to steel man your case.
And this discussion is breaking up into fragments, I'm afraid, circular reasoning and I just know when to stop.
Shalom.
J.

Again, empty assertions--no substantiations of the claims.

Good evening.

 

[GracePeace]

Like you told me a couple of days ago christians are under law and grace?

You've completely misunderstood and misrepresented me--not surprising, since we all see you also misunderstand Scripture.

 

[uncle silas]

I've already told you (and I've learned you need to hear the same answers over and over and over and over) : the parable of the unforgiving servant shows that a person can be forgiven of all their sins, yet, afterward, because of their behavior (not forgiving), can have the forgiveness rescinded.

Since forgiveness is by the righteousness of faith (Ro 4:6-8), the rescinding of the forgiveness is the removal of the man's faith, the "forgetting of his righteousness [of faith]", as Ezekiel 18:24 says God forgets not only sin but righteousness. Therefore, your idea that once you're a child you're always a child, or that sin doesn't lead to being rejected by the Lord is debunked.

Yep, if someone asks your forgiveness you must give it. i dont have any problem with that.

 

[uncle silas]

You've completely misunderstood and misrepresented me--not surprising, since we all see you also misunderstand Scripture.

If you bear false witness you infract the law in your mind. You wrote to me a believer is under grace and law