The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

[David in NJ]

The ancient Galilean wedding ceremony is the model for the rapture, specifically the pre-trib rapture. When the Scriptures are compared to the Galilean wedding ceremony, it explains the purpose of the rapture, why the church won’t go through the tribulation, and puts certain biblical passages into proper context. There are very few who understand the significance of the Galilean wedding ceremony, and even fewer who understand the parallels with the pre-trib rapture. That significance, however, would not have been lost on Jesus or His disciples, all of whom were Galilean except for Judas. Nor would it have been lost on the Galileans of the first century, whom Jesus spent most of His time around.

It may be no coincidence that Jesus’ first recorded miracle was turning water into wine at a Galilean wedding. It was as if He was trying to draw attention to the wedding for reasons that will soon become apparent. It’s been said that Jesus taught about the resurrection but not the rapture. Yet, when the words and actions of Jesus are compared with the Galilean wedding ceremony, a different picture emerges. Before we get to that picture, we must first understand the customs and culture that shaped the Galileans in Jesus’ day.

Galilee was originally settled by the tribes of Naphthali and Dan. After the Assyrian invasion in the eighth century BC, the northern ten tribes of Israel were dispersed throughout the vast Assyrian empire. In their place, Assyria repopulated the region with people from all the nations they conquered. In fact, the Book of Isaiah refers to the region as g'lil ha-goyím, meaning 'Galilee of the Nations' or 'Galilee of the Gentiles' (Isaiah 9:1).

Perhaps it was due to this foreign influence that the inhabitants of Galilee developed their own unique customs, traditions, and even speech that differed from the Jews in Judea. This is what made the Galilean wedding ceremony unique. Rabbi Judah (135–217 AD) said, “In Judea they made inquiry concerning the bridegroom and bride three days before the wedding: but in Galilee they did not so. In Judea they allowed the bridegroom and bride private company one hour before the wedding; but they did not so in Galilee. It was a custom in Judea that the married persons should have two friends, one of the family of the bridegroom, and the other of the family of the bride: but it was not so in Galilee. In Judea those friends slept in the same place where the bridegroom and bride slept: but in Galilee it was not so."

One objection may be: how do we know what an ancient Galilean wedding was like? That’s a fair question, however, we do know quite a bit about what a typical Jewish wedding was like in antiquity. And while there were variations between a Jewish wedding in Judea and a Jewish wedding in Galilee, there is enough overlap to give us a pretty good idea of what was involved. The rest can be pieced together from various sources, including the Bible, extra-biblical sources, historical records, rabbinic literature, archaeological findings, scholarly works, and so on, to give us a complete picture of the ceremony.

To best understand the parallels with the Galilean wedding ceremony and the parallels with the pre-trib rapture, we will need to examine an outline of the sequence of events and how they correspond to what Jesus and others spoke of in Scripture. The Galilean wedding ceremony can be divided into three distinct stages: contract, consummation, and celebration.

#1 - The Galilean wedding does not give any support to pre-trib but you will make sure it does.

#2 - pre-trib rapture NEVER came out of the Mouth of God = not once spoken of in scripture from Genesis to Revelation

#3 - Even the very title/phrase of "pre-trib rapture" is antichrist since it opposes the words of CHRIST, the Apostles and the OT prophets

 

[WPM]

Paul classified believer as carnal and spiritual.
Jesus classified believers as hot and lukewarm.
Paul said in 1 cor there are those at the bema seat that have works of wood,hay and stubble.
Paul said they are saved as through fire. They are saved but their works are burned up.
You claim none of that is true.

The Bible proves you are way off again
The bible describes all 10 virgins as being pure, undefiled, with the Holy Spirit, and having light.
In your mind and doctrine, you NEED that to be reframed and perverted to fit your deal.

....and I proved believers are CLASSIFIED in that exact category as carnal vs spiritual.
The 5 foolish were in fact carnal
Hands down disproves your entire basis and twisting of the parable.
Actually you change the components shamelessly

Men are either redeemed or unredeemed. They are either saved or loss. They're either a new creature in Christ or a child of the devil. It is that simple! People are either caught up on caught on when Jesus comes. It is either eternal bliss or eternal torment. There are no survivors after the redeemed are rescued!

 

[David in NJ]

Men are either redeemed or unredeemed. They are either saved or loss. They're either a new creature in Christ or a child of the devil. It is that simple! People are either caught up on caught on when Jesus comes. It is either eternal bliss or eternal torment. There are no survivors after the redeemed are rescued!

No matter how a person slices and dices the scripture, the Scripture will always come back together in TRUTH.

 

[David in NJ]

I am going to start a opposite thread where you guys actually need to support your doctrine.

Yes, yes we all see you bring bizarre baloney to the table everytime Jesus checkmates your deal.
Yes ,we all see that.

I am going to start a opposite thread where you guys actually need to support your doctrine.

Please do

the Holy Spirit and the Holy Scriptures and His saints are READY

 

[David in NJ]

You are describing yourself. This is called projection.

Projection is their #1 'go-to' when they cannot provide any scripture to stand with them.

Have you seen this: "you guys cannot provide a single post-trib scripture"

Then we post JESUS own words: Matthew 24:29-31 which HE says "AFTER the tribulation of those days......I COME"

pre-trib will first throw rocks, then run and hide or play the hypocrite with projection

 

[WPM]

Projection is their #1 'go-to' when they cannot provide any scripture to stand with them.

Have you seen this: "you guys cannot provide a single post-trib scripture"

Then we post JESUS own words: Matthew 24:29-31 which HE says "AFTER the tribulation of those days......I COME"

pre-trib will first throw rocks, then run and hide or play the hypocrite with projection

That is my experience over the years. The thread I started is so far actually unaddressed. They will not touch it. They rather divert, name call and insult, to put a smokescreen around their false teaching.

 

[David in NJ]

Good luck finding any scripture that explicitly spells out the timing of the rapture. If it did, we wouldn't have so many debates about it. I've laid everything out in a nice outline, complete with plenty of scripture references. If that's not enough, then I don't know what to tell you.



How is it convulated? I'm just comparing the wedding ceremony with scripture. The 1st century Jews would have easily picked up on what Jesus was trying to convey.

Good luck finding any scripture that explicitly spells out the timing of the rapture.

Willful blindness to the EXPLICIT words of CHRIST concerning His Second Coming = Matthew chapter 24

If it did, we wouldn't have so many debates about it.

Concerning pre-trib rapture, there would be no debates if you followed the commandments:

#1. But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”

#2. Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

#3. JESUS, the Apostles and the OT prophets have given us the 'Timing' of His Second Coming.
a.) Matthew chapter 13, 23:37-39, ch24,
b.) 1 & 2nd Thessalonians and 1 John
c.) 1 Corinthians chapter 15
d.) Genesis and more

 

[MA2444]

Willful blindness to the EXPLICIT words of CHRIST concerning His Second Coming = Matthew chapter 24


Concerning pre-trib rapture, there would be no debates if you followed the commandments:

#1. But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”

#2. Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

#3. JESUS, the Apostles and the OT prophets have given us the 'Timing' of His Second Coming.
a.) Matthew chapter 13, 23:37-39, ch24,
b.) 1 & 2nd Thessalonians and 1 John
c.) 1 Corinthians chapter 15
d.) Genesis and more

If you know that we have the post trib timing of His 2nd coming then how can the rapture be when you least expect it. You need to catch up on Luke 21. And Matthew 24:44.

Why didnt you tell me that proof of the post trib rapture was in Proverbs before? Do not add to His words, in other words, dont be diligent? And all this time I thought that John 11:35 proved the pre trib rapture. So much clarification from you! Wow, Brother, just, Wow.

 

[David in NJ]

You need to catch up on Luke 21. And Matthew 24:44.

Why didnt you tell me that proof of the post trib rapture was in Proverbs before? Do not add to His words, in other words, dont be diligent? And all this time I thought that John 11:35 proved the pre trib rapture. So much clarification from you! Wow, Brother, just, Wow.

If you know that we have the post trib timing of His 2nd coming then how can the rapture be when you least expect it.

SIMPLE Truth for God's Children = Matthew ch24

But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

 

[MA2444]

SIMPLE Truth for God's Children = Matthew ch24

But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Exactly where in Mattew 24? I pretty much posted an egegis on that chapter today. So referto that post. It's right up above. Because you have made nothing clear here in your post. You cant say your wrong without saying why and how.

No one knows not even the Angels in Heaven...so it is Imminent. You just said we have a timeline for Jesus 2nd coming (which is true!)....so how can the rapture be on a tmeline if not even the Angels knw when?!

Because it is two Events.

 

[MA2444]

I found it on the other thread. Where at here, show me. Exegete, lol.

The way I read it:

Matthew 24
Verses 1&2- the historical setting.
Verse 3 is the three questions.
Verses 4-6 General chracterisitcs of the church age.
Verses 7&8 The sign of the end of the age.
Verses 9-28 are about the Great Tribulation. (9-14 the first half/15-28 senond half)
V 29& 30 The sign of the 2nd coming of Jesus.
V 31 The regathering of Israel.
V 32-35 The parable of the Fig tree.

Up until this, Matthew has been chronological. Where he deviates is verse 32 and Jesus begins adding things because He has been talking about the end of the age and what will happen but now He is talking about Israel so that we know we are the final generation then goes on to talk about the rapture.

Verses 36-42 ia talkig about the Rapture.

And so this is where Matthew deviates from chronoogical order. It is over in Luke 21 that you get to hear....But before that...at this point. Mathhew doesnt say it. Luke is probably a more accurate account of Jesus message that day because it lets you see where Jesus started adding stuff and was backtracking saying but this will be first...

And the reason that we know that the Rapture is pre trib, is that the Rapture is imminent. t could happen at any moment. No one one knows when and no prophetic event must precede it from happening....!

Matthew 24:44
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh..../KJV
So it has to be pre trib because when the 7 year treaty is signed we can count the days until Jesus comes! No so with the rapture.

 

[David in NJ]

Exactly where in Mattew 24? I pretty much posted an egegis on that chapter today. So referto that post. It's right up above. Because you have made nothing clear here in your post. You cant say your wrong without saying why and how.

No one knows not even the Angels in Heaven...so it is Imminent. You just said we have a timeline for Jesus 2nd coming (which is true!)....so how can the rapture be on a tmeline if not even the Angels knw when?!

Because it is two Events.

No one knows not even the Angels in Heaven...so it is Imminent. You just said we have a timeline for Jesus 2nd coming (which is true!)....so how can the rapture be on a tmeline if not even the Angels knw when?!

This is human rationalization of that which you have no answer for!
The scriptures dictate the build up to the Second Coming = not the false prophets of today!

Because it is two Events.

To say two events when CHRIST and the Apostles and the OT prophets all say One Event is 'antichrist'.

pre-trib NEVER came out of the Mouth of God

Pre-Wrath Deliverance is 100% TRUTH from Genesis to Revelation.

1 Thess 1:10 - wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

 

[Biblepaige]

The ancient Galilean wedding ceremony is the model for the rapture, specifically the pre-trib rapture. When the Scriptures are compared to the Galilean wedding ceremony, it explains the purpose of the rapture, why the church won’t go through the tribulation, and puts certain biblical passages into proper context. There are very few who understand the significance of the Galilean wedding ceremony, and even fewer who understand the parallels with the pre-trib rapture. That significance, however, would not have been lost on Jesus or His disciples, all of whom were Galilean except for Judas. Nor would it have been lost on the Galileans of the first century, whom Jesus spent most of His time around.

It may be no coincidence that Jesus’ first recorded miracle was turning water into wine at a Galilean wedding. It was as if He was trying to draw attention to the wedding for reasons that will soon become apparent. It’s been said that Jesus taught about the resurrection but not the rapture. Yet, when the words and actions of Jesus are compared with the Galilean wedding ceremony, a different picture emerges. Before we get to that picture, we must first understand the customs and culture that shaped the Galileans in Jesus’ day.

Galilee was originally settled by the tribes of Naphthali and Dan. After the Assyrian invasion in the eighth century BC, the northern ten tribes of Israel were dispersed throughout the vast Assyrian empire. In their place, Assyria repopulated the region with people from all the nations they conquered. In fact, the Book of Isaiah refers to the region as g'lil ha-goyím, meaning 'Galilee of the Nations' or 'Galilee of the Gentiles' (Isaiah 9:1).

Perhaps it was due to this foreign influence that the inhabitants of Galilee developed their own unique customs, traditions, and even speech that differed from the Jews in Judea. This is what made the Galilean wedding ceremony unique. Rabbi Judah (135–217 AD) said, “In Judea they made inquiry concerning the bridegroom and bride three days before the wedding: but in Galilee they did not so. In Judea they allowed the bridegroom and bride private company one hour before the wedding; but they did not so in Galilee. It was a custom in Judea that the married persons should have two friends, one of the family of the bridegroom, and the other of the family of the bride: but it was not so in Galilee. In Judea those friends slept in the same place where the bridegroom and bride slept: but in Galilee it was not so."

One objection may be: how do we know what an ancient Galilean wedding was like? That’s a fair question, however, we do know quite a bit about what a typical Jewish wedding was like in antiquity. And while there were variations between a Jewish wedding in Judea and a Jewish wedding in Galilee, there is enough overlap to give us a pretty good idea of what was involved. The rest can be pieced together from various sources, including the Bible, extra-biblical sources, historical records, rabbinic literature, archaeological findings, scholarly works, and so on, to give us a complete picture of the ceremony.

To best understand the parallels with the Galilean wedding ceremony and the parallels with the pre-trib rapture, we will need to examine an outline of the sequence of events and how they correspond to what Jesus and others spoke of in Scripture. The Galilean wedding ceremony can be divided into three distinct stages: contract, consummation, and celebration.

There is a video, Before The Wrath. It makes the same point as your thread.
Great post

 

[David in NJ]

There is a video, Before The Wrath. It makes the same point as your thread.
Great post

Pre-Wrath is 100% TRUTH from Genesis to Revelation

1 Thess 1:10 - wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

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[MA2444]

This is human rationalization of that which you have no answer for!
The scriptures dictate the build up to the Second Coming = not the false prophets of today!


To say two events when CHRIST and the Apostles and the OT prophets all say One Event is 'antichrist'.

pre-trib NEVER came out of the Mouth of God

Pre-Wrath Deliverance is 100% TRUTH from Genesis to Revelation.

1 Thess 1:10 - wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

Well what do you the Tribulation period is? That is the wrath of God, the time of Jacobs trouble.

Is absolutely everything an allegory to you in scripture? God is not the author of confusion. He says what He means and means what He says. Why wouldnt you address the cripture with me? You asked for the scriptures so I laid them out...but all you can do is say Your Wrong in frustration because if you had any proof of your position then you would be posting it. And you dont.

So, I rest my case. You have no clue what your even trying to say. You cant back up anything you say with scripture. 1 Thess 1:10 we have a Promise to to not be subjected to the wrath of God. Because we are gone. The church age is over at that time, and the age of grace.

 

[MA2444]

Pre-Wrath is 100% TRUTH from Genesis to Revelation

1 Thess 1:10 - wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

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Yep. Pre Wrath. Pre wrath rapture. Pre Trib. Jacobs trouble, geesh.

 

[David in NJ]

Well what do you the Tribulation period is? That is the wrath of God, the time of Jacobs trouble.

Is absolutely everything an allegory to you in scripture? God is not the author of confusion. He says what He means and means what He says. Why wouldnt you address the cripture with me? You asked for the scriptures so I laid them out...but all you can do is say Your Wrong in frustration because if you had any proof of your position then you would be posting it. And you dont.

So, I rest my case. You have no clue what your even trying to say. You cant back up anything you say with scripture. 1 Thess 1:10 we have a Promise to to not be subjected to the wrath of God. Because we are gone. The church age is over at that time, and the age of grace.

God is not the author of confusion. He says what He means and means what He says.

Let's put your words to the TEST to see if you stand on your words or if you are all FLUFF !!!


JESUS says: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

"He says what He means and means what He says" = i AGREE

 

[David in NJ]

Yep. Pre Wrath. Pre wrath rapture. Pre Trib. Jacobs trouble, geesh.

Pre-Wrath = 100% TRUTH
There you go again twisting God's words to slip in the BIG LIE of 'pre-trib'

JESUS says:
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation;

JESUS says:
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

JESUS says:
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”


Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

When did JESUS ever say 'pre-trib' I will come for you???

Go tell the men you follow they do not stand a chance against the Holy Spirit in this little stone!

 

[Biblepaige]

Yep. Pre Wrath. Pre wrath rapture. Pre Trib. Jacobs trouble, geesh.

I think what confuses those who are adamantly opposed to the pre tribulation rapture is that those left behind are yet able to be saved.

 

[David in NJ]

I think what confuses those who are adamantly opposed to the pre tribulation rapture is that those left behind are yet able to be saved.

Question: Do you really and truly believe this to be truth?