No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

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LOL!!! It obviously takes place in the heavens and on earth. Hello? This is not a mystery.


LOL. So, the heavens and the earth = Christ's kingdom and the earth doesn't include Canada? LOL!!! This is such a waste of my time to deal with this nonsense. I need to move on and talk to someone who wants to be serious about this topic.

No.
The people of Canada will have to travel east to the kingdom of heaven.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”



The subjects of that kingdom will be cast out.

 

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Nothing to do with Canada? LOL!!! This isn't a serious discussion.

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No.
The people of Canada will have to travel east to the kingdom of heaven.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”



The subjects of that kingdom will be cast out.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No.
The people of Canada will have to travel east to the kingdom of heaven.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

LOL. Why would God make people travel like that? So insane. Your beliefs are ridiculous. In that passage Jesus was letting the Israelites know that it wasn't just them that had the opportunity to be in the kingdom of heaven, but people from all over would have that opportunity. He was talking about how salvation would come to the Gentiles there without spelling it out for them.

Who will be the ones to travel north and south to the kingdom of heaven? Did you forget about them? LOL.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

I guess the people who are not able to travel are out of luck and can't enter the kingdom of heaven. And those who get in accidents and die while trying to get there. Too bad for them. Who knew that getting into the kingdom of heaven would be based on one's ability to travel a long ways? What a shame.

 

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LOL. Why would God make people travel like that? So insane. Your beliefs are ridiculous. In that passage Jesus was letting the Israelites know that it wasn't just them that had the opportunity to be in the kingdom of heaven, but people from all over would have that opportunity. He was talking about how salvation would come to the Gentiles there without spelling it out for them.

Who will be the ones to travel north and south to the kingdom of heaven? Did you forget about them? LOL.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

The people will come from the east and the west and take their place at the feast in the kingdom of heaven.

You say People don't need to travel.Well,if you don't want to ,your not forced to attend the feast.


16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

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LOL. Why would God make people travel like that? So insane. Your beliefs are ridiculous. In that passage Jesus was letting the Israelites know that it wasn't just them that had the opportunity to be in the kingdom of heaven, but people from all over would have that opportunity. He was talking about how salvation would come to the Gentiles there without spelling it out for them.

Who will be the ones to travel north and south to the kingdom of heaven? Did you forget about them? LOL.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

I guess the people who are not able to travel are out of luck and can't enter the kingdom of heaven. Who knew that getting into the kingdom of heaven would be based on one's ability to travel a long ways? What a shame.

You say your not going anywhere.
You don't know where the kingdom of heaven is so you wouldn't go east or west.
You won't attend the feast.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The people will come from the east and the west and take their place at the feast in the kingdom of heaven.

And those from the north and the south are out of luck then? Did you not even read this?

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

You say People don't need to travel.Well,if you don't want to ,your not forced to attend the feast.

LOL! This might be the most ridiculous discussion I've ever been involved in on here. You are making one's ability to travel long distances a requirement for being in the kingdom of heaven. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Total insane nonsense.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Have you taken all scripture into account when interpreting that verse? Was Jesus not serious when He said this:

John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus said "The hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.".

You say: "Who cares what Jesus said? They that worship God must travel to Jerusalem to worship Him.".

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You say your not going anywhere.
You don't know where the kingdom of heaven is so you wouldn't go east or west.
You won't attend the feast.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

So, since you're telling me I wouldn't go east or west, do I need to go north or south?

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

 

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And those from the north and the south are out of luck then? Did you not even read this?

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.


LOL! This might be the most ridiculous discussion I've ever been involved in on here. You are making one's ability to travel long distances a requirement for being in the kingdom of heaven. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Total insane nonsense.


Have you taken all scripture into account when interpreting that verse? Was Jesus not serious when He said this:

John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus said "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.".

You say: "Who cares what Jesus said? They that worship God must travel to Jerusalem to worship Him.".

You must believe the end was 2000 years ago if you believe no one can worship God before Christ comes and the wheat is gathered into the barn.

 

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So, since you're telling me I wouldn't go east or west, do I need to go north or south?

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

Thrust out when,?

When are they thrust out?

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


You believe they were thrust out 2000 years ago or you believe they still dwell together till the end as scripture says?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You must believe the end was 2000 years ago if you believe no one can worship God before Christ comes and the wheat is gathered into the barn.

Is that what I said? LOL. Not even close. You are obviously not reading anything I'm saying carefully at all. I did not say no one can worship God until Christ comes. I did not say anything remotely close to that. I pointed out how Jesus said we must worship God in spirit and in truth rather than in Jerusalem like they used to have to do. But, you ignore that because you apparently don't care what Jesus taught. You are going to interpret Zechariah 14 however you want without any care of whether you are contradicting what Jesus taught or not.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Thrust out when,?

When are they thrust out?

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

It tells us when in verse 40. Why didn't you quote that verse? At the end of the age, which is when Jesus returns (Matt 24:3).

You believe they were thrust out 2000 years ago or you believe they still dwell together till the end as scripture says?

You have horrible reading comprehension skills, so this is a waste of time. You can't understand anything you read, so there's clearly no hope in getting you to understand what I'm saying. You're so off base in thinking I could possibly have been saying they were thrust out into the furnace of fire 2000 years ago that it boggles my mind. I said absolutely nothing to indicate that I could believe any nonsense like that.

 

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Is that what I said? LOL. Not even close. You are obviously not reading anything I'm saying carefully at all. I did not say no one can worship God until Christ comes. I did not say anything remotely close to that. I pointed out how Jesus said we must worship God in spirit and in truth rather than in Jerusalem like they used to have to do. But, you ignore that because you apparently don't care what Jesus taught. You are going to interpret Zechariah 14 however you want without any care of whether you are contradicting what Jesus taught or not.

You don't even know what kingdom.is being discussed.

Here are the resurected saints living in the kingdom of heaven .Can you tell the difference between the resurected saints and the nations from outside of the kingdom?



Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

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It tells us when in verse 40. Why didn't you quote that verse? At the end of the age, which is when Jesus returns (Matt 24:3).


You have horrible reading comprehension skills, so this is a waste of time. You can't understand anything you read, so there's clearly no hope in getting you to understand what I'm saying. You're so off base in thinking I could possibly have been saying they were thrust out into the furnace of fire 2000 years ago that it boggles my mind. I said absolutely nothing to indicate that I could believe any nonsense like that.

At the end of the age.Not 2000 years ago when the woman met Jesus at the well.

 

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Here are the resurected saints reigning with Christ in the kingdom of heaven .Can you tell the difference between the resurected saints and the nations from outside of the kingdom?



Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

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Here are the resurected saints reigning with Christ in the kingdom of heaven.

Do you comprehend where the nations come from when they surround the saints in the kingdom of heaven,?


Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You don't even know what kingdom.is being discussed.

Okay, so I guess we need to end the discussion then. As I should have done well before now. Your beliefs are utterly ridiculous and not worth wasting any more of my time on. I feel bad for those from the north or south who cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. You say tough luck to them because only those to the east or west are allowed entry. What a shame.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

At the end of the age.Not 2000 years ago when the woman met Jesus at the well.

Nice job completely missing the point. Maybe you can show me where Jesus said that what He said in John 4:19-24 would no longer be true?

 

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Okay, so I guess we need to end the discussion then. As I should have done well before now. Your beliefs are utterly ridiculous and not worth wasting any more of my time on. I feel bad for those from the north or south who cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. You say tough luck to them because only those to the east or west are allowed entry. What a shame.

Here are the resurected saints reigning with Christ in the kingdom of heaven.

Do you comprehend where the nations come from when they surround the saints in the kingdom of heaven,?


Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[tailgator]

Nice job completely missing the point. Maybe you can show me where Jesus said that what He said in John 4:19-24 would no longer be true?

Here are the resurected saints reigning with Christ in the kingdom of heaven.

Do you comprehend where the nations come from when they surround the saints in the kingdom of heaven,?


Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[tailgator]

Okay, so I guess we need to end the discussion then. As I should have done well before now. Your beliefs are utterly ridiculous and not worth wasting any more of my time on. I feel bad for those from the north or south who cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. You say tough luck to them because only those to the east or west are allowed entry. What a shame.

Do you even comprehend where these resurected saints are?
Or do you insist they are in Canada?

Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.