No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

[tailgator]

But, in Matthew 13:36-39 the children of the wicked one are contrasted with the children of the kingdom. So, you're not understanding that they are not in His kingdom or else it would say that they too were children of the kingdom. But, they are not. So, what it means when it says they are cast out of His kingdom is not that they are in His kingdom and then cast out of it. That would contradict what He had just said before that. Instead, it means they are cast out from the presence of His kingdom.

Remember, it says the wheat and tares would grow together until the harvest (end of the age). So, the kingdom of Christ exists on the earth with the kingdom of the wicked one at the same time. So, all it means when He said the angels "will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil" is that the children of the wicked one will be separated from the children of the kingdom. To think that the children of the wicked one are in Jesus's kingdom is insane and utter nonsense. Think about it.


You are misinterpreting what that means. Think about it! You are saying that children of the wicked one are in Jesus's kingdom! What?!!! No way is that true. You are apparently ignoring that the children of the wicked one are contrasted with the children of the kingdom. Only the children of the kingdom are in His kingdom. That should be obvious. The children of the wicked one are not in His kingdom. That's crazy talk to say the children of the wicked one are in Christ's kingdom. No, they are in the wicked one's kingdom.

The way it's worded is throwing you off, but when you take everything He said into consideration it should be clear that it's only talking about separating the children of the wicked one from the children of the kingdom and not saying it's casting the children of the wicked one out of Christ's kingdom as if they are in His kingdom. No wicked people are in His kingdom. Think!


You're not addressing any of the other scriptures I brought up in the original post. Why not? Can you show me how you reconcile those with your doctrine? Or do you prefer to cherry pick scripture that you accept while ignoring the scriptures that you don't accept? I'm getting that impression from you because no matter how many times I ask you to address those scriptures, you won't do it.

So you can't tell the difference between the children who are to inherit the kingdom and the children who don't,?

Yes the children of the wicked one are in Christs kingdom when he comes.They are cast out of his kingdom when he comes.They dwell together till he comes.

Mathew 13
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.



Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



The only people who survive in Christs kingdom are the righteous.But this is about Christs kingdom.
This isn't about Mexico or Brazil.Its not about China ,Russia or Canada.
It's about Christs kingdom.Motals will still be living outside of his kingdom.Where do you think Gog and the mortal nations come from in revelation 20?

 

[tailgator]

Yes, it is saying that. Everyone except for believers, of course, who do not ever experience His wrath. It says "all people, free and slave, great and small" to show that there are no exceptions when it comes to unbelievers. Whether they are free or slave, great or small, or anything in between, they will be destroyed.

Tell me, does Paul make any exceptions in the following passage as it relates to which of Christ's enemies will be destroyed when He comes?

2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Does this indicate that any of "them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ" will survive Christ's return? I don't believe so. What do you think?


He received His kingdom long ago already upon His resurrection and His ascension to the right hand of the Father.

Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Can you see here how at His resurrection and ascension He was given authority as King over "all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named" with "all things under his feet" while being made "head over all things to the church"? Why do you act as if He is not King of His kingdom yet when scripture says He has been King over His kingdom for a long time already.

Do you not think you are in His kingdom? Is He not your king right now?

Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


You have a strange understanding of what a fact is. His kingdom is on heaven and one earth and all of His people are in it. Just as scripture teaches. So, don't tell me I don't know where it is. It does not come with observation (Luke 17:20) and is not of this world (John 18:36). You don't seem to know that we are in His kingdom now and that is YOUR greatest weakness.


You don't know anything. And you clearly are not able to back up anything you say with scripture. And you clearly are not able to refute any of my interpretations of the scriptures I posted in the original post. I'm trying to get you to address them and you are very hesitant to do so and I know why that is.

False,revelations 19 is not talking about Ethiopia,Lybia and Magog.
It is talking about the kingdom.

Where does Ethiopia and Libya come from 1000 after Christ has returned and raised his saints from the dead?
Do you believe those mortals just spring up out of the ground and surround the resurected saints,?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So you can't tell the difference between the children who are to inherit the kingdom and the children who don't,?

Of course I can. Why would you ask me that? Clearly, the children of the wicked one, who are contrasted with the children of the kingdom, won't inherit the kingdom of God at the end of the age when Jesus returns. They will instead be cast into the fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Yes the children of the wicked one are in Christs kingdom when he comes.

LOL.

Read this...

Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

You are going to try to tell me that the children of the wicked one have been delivered "from the power of darkness" and have been "translated...into the kingdom of his dear Son"? Really? Is that what you are trying to tell me?

 

[tailgator]

This is what Amos wrote about the children of Israel on the day of the Lord.

Amos 5
Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god[b]—
which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.


Here the word of the Lord shows the children for whom.the kingdom was prepared are cast out .They go into exile being kicked out of the kingdom for worshiping the beast .Do you understand why they are driven out past Damascus?




The people in Greece are not cast out of the kingdom because they don't live in the kingdom.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

False,revelations 19 is not talking about Ethiopia,Lybia and Magog.
It is talking about the kingdom.

Where does Ethiopia and Libya come from 1000 after Christ has returned and raised his saints from the dead?
Do you believe those mortals just spring up out of the ground and surround the resurected saints,?

You don't have a clue. This is a waste of time, especially since you won't address most of what I said in the original post, which is quite telling.

It's not surprising that you wouldn't address the passages written by Paul since you don't believe he knew what he was talking about as it relates to Bible prophecy, as you've indicated to me before.

 

[tailgator]

Of course I can. Why would you ask me that? Clearly, the children of the wicked one, who are contrasted with the children of the kingdom, won't inherit the kingdom of God at the end of the age when Jesus returns. They will instead be cast into the fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.


LOL.

Read this...

Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

You are going to try to tell me that the children of the wicked one have been delivered "from the power of darkness" and have been "translated...into the kingdom of his dear Son"? Really? Is that what you are trying to tell me?

Are you telling me Jesus sends his angels to gather out of his kingdom his saints and cast them into a furnace,?


gather out of his kingdom
Read this

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


Who is gathered out of his kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

 

[tailgator]

You don't have a clue. This is a waste of time, especially since you won't address most of what I said in the original post, which is quite telling.

I've already said your original.post is about Christs kingdom.
But since you don't know where that is,you have no idea what it's about.

 

[tailgator]

You don't have a clue. This is a waste of time, especially since you won't address most of what I said in the original post, which is quite telling.

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


Who is gathered out of his kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Are you telling me Jesus sends his angels to gather out of his kingdom his saints and cast them into a furnace,?

LOL. Are you actually reading anything I'm saying? I said no such thing. Not even close. I'm saying the angels will separate the children of the wicked one from the children of the kingdom and the children of the wicked one will be cast into the furnace of fire. I made that very clear more than once and you still missed it. You are very lacking in reading comprehension skills.

Here is a similar parable that can maybe help you see what the parable of the wheat and tares means.

Matthew 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Notice it says here that the wicked are severed or separated from the just. It's not saying the wicked are in the kingdom of heaven, it's saying that they are separated from the just who are in the kingdom of heaven. For you to put the wicked in Christ's kingdom is the most nonsensical things imaginable. Only those who belong to Him are in His kingdom and that obviously does not include the wicked who don't even believe in Him. You're not even thinking here.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I've already said your original.post is about Christs kingdom.
But since you don't know where that is,you have no idea what it's about.

You won't address most of the passages I referenced in that post. Why not? Can you give your interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 or is that too much to ask? How about Matthew 24:35-39 or 2 Peter 3:10-13?

 

[tailgator]

LOL. Are you actually reading anything I'm saying? I said no such thing. Not even close. I'm saying the angels will separate the children of the wicked one from the children of the kingdom and the children of the wicked one will be cast into the furnace of fire. I made that very clear more than once and you still missed it. You are very lacking in reading comprehension skills.

Here is a similar parable that can maybe help you see what the parable of the wheat and tares means.

Matthew 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Notice it says here that the wicked are severed or separated from the just. It's not saying the wicked are in the kingdom of heaven, it's saying that they are separated from the just who are in the kingdom of heaven. For you to put the wicked in Christ's kingdom is the most nonsensical things imaginable. Only those who belong to Him are in His kingdom and that obviously does not include the wicked who don't even believe in Him. You're not even thinking here.

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


Who is gathered out of Jesus's kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

 

[tailgator]

You won't address most of the passages I referenced in that post. Why not? Can you give your interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 or is that too much to ask? How about Matthew 24:35-39 or 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Mathew 24

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.




Doesn't say anything about Canada .
The difference between me and you is ,I know what kingdom is going to be destroyed when Christ comes and you don't.

 

[tailgator]

You won't address most of the passages I referenced in that post. Why not? Can you give your interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 or is that too much to ask? How about Matthew 24:35-39 or 2 Peter 3:10-13?

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Again.I know where this takes place.You don't.
This isn't about Canada.This is about Christs kingdom.
One good thing is the land shall recover from the war of Armegeddon Israel .The resurected saints will live there in peace and safety for a thousand years before Gog invades the kingdom of heaven.

land that has recovered from war,

Ezekiel 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


Who is gathered out of Jesus's kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

You are interpreting that wrong as I've said multiple times now. Just look at what I've already said in response to this instead of asking me the same question over and over again. Are you actually reading my posts or not? It seems that you're not since you're asking me questions that I've already answered.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Mathew 24

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.




Doesn't say anything about Canada .
The difference between me and you is ,I know what kingdom is going to be destroyed when Christ comes and you don't.

LOL. So, He will leave the unbelievers in Canada alone when He comes? LOL!!!! Why am I wasting my time with your nonsense? I need to stop.

 

[tailgator]

You won't address most of the passages I referenced in that post. Why not? Can you give your interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 or is that too much to ask? How about Matthew 24:35-39 or 2 Peter 3:10-13?

2 Thes 1
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.



Again,this has nothing to do with Canada.This is about Christs kingdom and the tares being removed from.his kingdom.

The kingdom you don't know the whereabouts.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Again.I know where this takes place.You don't.

LOL!!! It obviously takes place in the heavens and on earth. Hello? This is not a mystery.

This isn't about Canada.This is about Christs kingdom.

LOL. So, the heavens and the earth = Christ's kingdom and the earth doesn't include Canada? LOL!!! This is such a waste of my time to deal with this nonsense. I need to move on and talk to someone who wants to be serious about this topic.

 

[tailgator]

You are interpreting that wrong as I've said multiple times now. Just look at what I've already said in response to this instead of asking me the same question over and over again. Are you actually reading my posts or not? It seems that you're not since you're asking me questions that I've already answered.

"gather out of his kingdom"

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

"gather out of his kingdom"


Who is gathered out of Jesus's kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

2 Thes 1
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.



Again,this has nothing to do with Canada.This is about Christs kingdom and the tares being removed from.his kingdom.

The kingdom you don't know the whereabouts.

Nothing to do with Canada? LOL!!! This isn't a serious discussion.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

"gather out of his kingdom"

Mathew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

"gather out of his kingdom"


Who is gathered out of Jesus's kingdom and cast into a furnace,?

How many times do I have to tell you I already addressed this before you will go back and look at what I already said about this? Do you communicate like this with your friends and family, too? I feel sorry for them if you do.