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It is apparent that you are not perceiving that most all of Daniel (KJV) has been fulfilled, at least 99% of it, during the "Age of Indignation". It was that Age that God was bringing to an "End", to then bring in His Age if Grace through Jesus.

If you will notice in 525+/-BC, Dan. 11:1-2 is of WHEN the 2nd beast (Medio-Persia) and 3rd beast (Grecian) are being prophesied of.
Dan. ch.11 is just more details about the 2nd and 3rd Beast, upto the coming of the 4th Beast, the Roman Empire.

Verse 3 and 4 is about Alexander the Great, and his four Generals, that received the Grecian Empire, because Alex the Great had no posterity to leave his empire to.
Those "four heads" were: Ptolemy, Lysichimus, Cassandar and Seleucus, which are known of as being the "Hellenistic kingdoms" of Greece, the 3rd Beast. 11:5-20.

Out of the Seleucid kingdom, there arose "a little horn" named Antiochus Epiphanes lV, described again in 11:21
In Dan. 11, the 2nd and 3rd Beast waged war on each other until the 2nd Beast was subdued/defeated by the 3rd Beast.

Dan. 12 is prophetic about Jesus.
The name "Michael" is a code word/name for Jesus, of which is prophesied of right to the end of the chapter, even prophetically describing the disciples waiting for the Gift "from on high" of the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. Dan. 12:11-12.
So who are you claiming are these wise leaders who you say have been in prison for more than 2000 years now?

Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.



Amd just so you know,the time of the end is in Daniel 11:40-12:2.
Daniel 11;40 says it is the time of the end so from The Daniel 11:33-12:2 ,these wise leaders are imprisoned and killed.

Who is it that you claim have been In prison for thousands of years now?
 

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And since you believe Daniel 11:31 took.place more than 2000 years ago ,perhaps you could inform us who is it that has been in prison since Daniel 11:33 till the time of the end in Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

Now who are you saying these wise leaders are who you say have been in prison for more than 2000 years now?
In KJV Dan. 11:33-35, I have no clue as to who/what you are talking about of being in prison for 2000 years.

In KJV Dan. 11:1-2, I gave you the angel's statement of who was going to explain and talk to Daniel about it.
KJV Dan. 11
[1] Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
[2] And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
 
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In KJV Dan. 11:33-35, I have no clue as to who/what you are talking about of being in prison for 2000 years.

In KJV Dan. 11:1-2, I gave you the angel's statement of who he was going explain and talk about to Daniel.
KJV Dan. 11
[1] Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
[2] And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
Ofcorse you have no clue.
You have no clue who the people are that are being put in prison and killed because you have no clue who Daniel 11:31 -32 is about.

Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.



I will show you who these people are that are being imprisoned and killed but I'm sure you still will have no clue.



Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


Revelation 14
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
 

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In KJV Dan. 11:33-35, I have no clue as to who/what you are talking about of being in prison for 2000 years.

In KJV Dan. 11:1-2, I gave you the angel's statement of who he was going explain and talk about to Daniel.
KJV Dan. 11
[1] Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
[2] And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
Fact is,the people in Daniel 11:33-35 who are being imprisoned and killed till the time of the end are persecuted for 42 months.
Daniel 11:31-12:2 is an end time prophecy lasting 42 months in total.

Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.



Your book of Maccabees which you believe to be the word of God is all a false interpretation of Daniels prophecy.
 

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Fact is,the people in Daniel 11:33-35 who are being imprisoned and killed till the time of the end are persecuted for 42 months.
Daniel 11:31-12:2 is an end time prophecy lasting 42 months in total.

Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.



Your book of Maccabees which you believe to be the word of God is all a false interpretation of Daniels prophecy.
99% of the book of Daniel was all fulfilled, WHEN the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in 70AD.
The last fulfillment of Daniel 1%, is when Jesus returns from heaven in flaming fire, taking vengeance on all who do not know God, and who do not obey the Gospel of Christ. KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10

The book of Daniel was for the people of OC Israel, as the book of Revelation is for the born again saints of the NC.
 
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Fact is,the people in Daniel 11:33-35 who are being imprisoned and killed till the time of the end are persecuted for 42 months.
Daniel 11:31-12:2 is an end time prophecy lasting 42 months in total.

Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.



Your book of Maccabees which you believe to be the word of God is all a false interpretation of Daniels prophecy.
Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end. imo, in that transition time, the ones with understanding includes the twelve Apostles.

Keep in mind that the angel who appeared to Daniel, in Daniel 10:14, is narrating all the verses in Daniel 11-12.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Daniel 11:36 picks up at the time of the end, as the person who will have become the Antichrist will have entered his beast-king stage, magnifying himself above every god. as it says.
 

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99% of the book of Daniel was all fulfilled, WHEN the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in 70AD.
The last fulfillment of Daniel 1%, is when Jesus returns from heaven in flaming fire, taking vengeance on all who do not know God, and who do not obey the Gospel of Christ. KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10

The book of Daniel was for the people of OC Israel, as the book of Revelation is for the born again saints of the NC.
No, Daniel 11-36-12:13 is still unfulfilled. As are all the "time of the end" events in the book of Daniel, still unfulfilled. But the time of fulfillment is close.

 

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Daniel 11:33-35
Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.
That is your Bible version's view saying what you want to hear.
Read it from the the KJV:
Daniel 11:31-35.
[30] For the ships of Chittim shall come against him [the little horn-Antiochus Epiphanes]: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy [Old] covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the [Old] holy covenant.
[31] And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
^Note: This event is already long, long PAST!!

[32] And such [of Israel] as do wickedly against the [Old] covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits
[33] And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
[34] Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
[35] And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end [the age of the OC]: because it is yet for a time appointed.
>And indeed the "END" of the Old Covenant did END, and was REPLACED by the NEW Covenant, through the shed blood of our Lord and Savior.

Again, go back to KJV Dan. 11:1-2 (written in 525 BC). Read and learn of who the angel is talking about.
He is talking about prophetic events that will take place, making history in the time vicinity of 350 BC to 150 BC between the Medio-Persians, the Grecian Empire, with Israel in the middle.

Daniel IS NOT about church-ianity's far flung fantasy, far out into the future of 2,525 years.
The book of Daniel was written for the Age of Israel, as the book of Revelation was written for the Age of Christ's church.
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Do you not understand KJV Heb. 9:26??
[26] For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

If Jesus had not come in the pre-ordained time of His first appearance in mortal flesh, to "shed His innocent blood", for God's forgiveness of our sins, God the Father would have THEN destroyed the world, right then and there.
As a result of the works of Christ (Dan. 9:24) being "finished", the world has ALWAYS been at the precipice for total DESTRUCTION, upon God the Father's decision ONLY, (Mat. 24:36) of how long He shall continue in the "longsuffering" of His Grace towards us, through the sacrifice of Jesus.
 
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No, Daniel 11-36-12:13 is still unfulfilled. As are all the "time of the end" events in the book of Daniel, still unfulfilled. But the time of fulfillment is close.

All need to stop listening to the MANY "lukewarm" denominational "biblical scholars" of church-ianity, and their doctrines of men, who ONLY learn and teach from their human mind, and NOT from "the mind [Spirit] of Christ", if He is even within them at all.
Rev. 3:15-20; All of 1 Cor. ch. 2.
Specifically 1 Cor. 2:5
[5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power [Authority] of God.
 
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99% of the book of Daniel was all fulfilled, WHEN the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in 70AD.
The last fulfillment of Daniel 1%, is when Jesus returns from heaven in flaming fire, taking vengeance on all who do not know God, and who do not obey the Gospel of Christ. KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10

The book of Daniel was for the people of OC Israel, as the book of Revelation is for the born again saints of the NC.
So you believe the time of the end when the man of sin and the dead are raised in the book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70 ad?

Who do you claim was the man of sin who comes to his end at the time of the end in Daniel 11:45?

Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 
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That is your Bible version's view saying what you want to hear.
Read it from the the KJV:
Daniel 11:31-35.
[30] For the ships of Chittim shall come against him [the little horn-Antiochus Epiphanes]: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy [Old] covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the [Old] holy covenant.
[31] And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
^Note: This event is already long, long PAST!!

[32] And such [of Israel] as do wickedly against the [Old] covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits
[33] And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
[34] Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
[35] And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end [the age of the OC]: because it is yet for a time appointed.
>And indeed the "END" of the Old Covenant did END, and was REPLACED by the NEW Covenant, through the shed blood of our Lord and Savior.

Again, go back to KJV Dan. 11:1-2 (written in 525 BC). Read and learn of who the angel is talking about.
He is talking about prophetic events that will take place, making history in the time vicinity of 350 BC to 150 BC between the Medio-Persians, the Grecian Empire, with Israel in the middle.

Daniel IS NOT about church-ianity's far flung fantasy, far out into the future of 2,525 years.
The book of Daniel was written for the Age of Israel, as the book of Revelation was written for the Age of Christ's church.
Ok ,you posted a quote saying the same thing I posted.Here is what you posted.

[35] And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end because it is yet for a time appointed.


Now you claim the time of the END in Daniel 11 was in 70 AD.
Here is the time of the end as written by Daniel .


These are the events which Daniel says will take place "at the time of the end ".


Daniel 11:40-12:2


40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.



So you believe the time of the end ,when the great tribulation ,and dead are raised took place in ,70.ad.

Do you have any proof that Christ came and raised the dead in 70 AD?
 

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Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end. imo, in that transition time, the ones with understanding includes the twelve Apostles.

Keep in mind that the angel who appeared to Daniel, in Daniel 10:14, is narrating all the verses in Daniel 11-12.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Daniel 11:36 picks up at the time of the end, as the person who will have become the Antichrist will have entered his beast-king stage, magnifying himself above every god. as it says.
No,Daniel 11:40 is at the time of the end.
Daniel 11:31-39 is about the man of sin and what he does leading up to the time of the end in Daniel 11:40.Daniel 11:31 takes place 42 months before the time of the end.

The wise men in Daniel 11:33 are the saints who are persecuted by the beast for 42 months before the time of the end which is when Christ comes.
The war you are reading about in Daniel 11:40-44 is the war of armegeddon and the same king of the north in Daniel 11:32 is the same king of the north in Daniel 11:45.There is no transition through thousands of years.There is only 1290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished in Daniel 12:31 to the time of the great tribulation caused by the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:1.
 

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So you believe the time of the end when the man of sin and the dead are raised in the book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70 ad?
You have not learned that there are two ENDS.
1. The end of the OC. and Israel in 70 AD.
2. The end of the NC. and God's Grace, upon the sudden Glorious return of Jesus, in flaming fire.
Who do you claim was the man of sin who comes to his end at the time of the end in Daniel 11:45?
The "man of sin" is "the natural man", who is everyone who is unsaved, aka only mortal flesh, being that of "the son of perdition" [who are to be destroyed upon the return of Christ].
> See KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10; Luke 17:28-30.

Judas Iscarriot was not the only one who dies without the Holy Spirit. Thousands do every day.

Rom. 8
[9] But ye [who are born again] are not in the flesh [only], but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if ANY man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is NONE of his.
Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Antiochus Epiphanes did exactly that.

KJV with Strongs:
Daniel 11:45
[45]And he shall plant H5193 the tabernacles H168 of his palace H643 between the seas H3220 in the glorious H6643 holy H6944 mountain; H2022 yet he shall come H935 to his end, H7093 and none shall help H5826 him.
 
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You have not learned that there are two ENDS.
1. The end of the OC. and Israel in 70 AD.
2. The end of the NC. and God's Grace, upon the sudden Glorious return of Jesus, in flaming fire.

The "man of sin" is "the natural man", who is everyone who is unsaved, aka only mortal flesh, being that of "the son of perdition" [who are to be destroyed upon the return of Christ].
> See KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10; Luke 17:28-30.

Judas Iscarriot was not the only one who dies without the Holy Spirit. Thousands do every day.

Rom. 8
[9] But ye [who are born again] are not in the flesh [only], but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if ANY man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is NONE of his.

Antiochus Epiphanes did exactly that.
Daniel only writes of one time of the end when the dead are raised.

Daniel 11:40
At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.



You are the only one saying there is more than one time of the end.
 

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Daniel only writes of one time of the end when the dead are raised.
Did you forget that there was a resurrection of many of the saints, upon Jesus' death??

Surely you didn't think that Rev. 6:9-11 was about the saints of Christ's church. No!! Those who were "under the altar" are of the OC. called Israel. It is they who died in faith, and had been waiting for the "Promise to come", and the permanent Gift of Eternal life by the Holy Spirit (white robes).
Quite literally they are the symbolic number of 144,000 out of the 12 tribes of OC. Israel.
Daniel 11:40
At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.
Yes, as I did say- the prophetic book of Daniel was for Israel and it's end, as the prophetic book of Revelation is for the church of Christ and it's end.
You are the only one saying there is more than one time of the end.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "covenant" is a "contract" between two parties.
When a covenant is CHANGED for better purposes, the Old Covenant/Contract becomes totally obsolete and dysfunctional, especially when the Testator of the NEW Covenant/Contract dies.
Heb. 9
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
 
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Yes, as I did say- the prophetic book of Daniel was for Israel and it's end, as the prophetic book of Revelation is for the church of Christ and it's end.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "covenant" is a "contract" between two parties.
When a covenant is CHANGED for better purposes, the Old Covenant/Contract becomes totally obsolete and dysfunctional, especially when the Testator of the NEW Covenant/Contract dies.
Heb. 9
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Israel has not ended.Neither has Daniels prophecy of Israels resurrection.at the time of the end.

You do understand Jesus has not come and resurected Israel from the dead , don't you?

Daniel 12:2

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.



Jesus said he would not raise Israel till the last day..The last day has not arrived yet.


John 6:40

For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
 
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Yes, as I did say- the prophetic book of Daniel was for Israel and it's end, as the prophetic book of Revelation is for the church of Christ and it's end.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "covenant" is a "contract" between two parties.
When a covenant is CHANGED for better purposes, the Old Covenant/Contract becomes totally obsolete and dysfunctional, especially when the Testator of the NEW Covenant/Contract dies.
Heb. 9
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
The new covenant which God made with Israel is how Israel got their names written in the book of life in Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 12:1
At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

This would include such Israelites as Mathew, Peter Paul and John.
Peoples who names are written.
 

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Please see my updated post #153 about Antiochus Epiphanes and his "palace".
I already knew Daniel 11:45 wasn't about antiochus.
It's about the man of sin who is destroyed at Christs coming.
The king of the north in Daniel 11:21-45 is about the man of sin.Not antiochus.



Daniel 11:36
The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.


2 Thes 2
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



The man of sin comes to his end and at Christs second advent .


Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.


2 Thes 2
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:




Daniel 11:45-12:2 is about Christs coming and the resurrection of them who's names are written in the lambs book of life.
 

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Israel has not ended.Neither has Daniels prophecy of Israels resurrection.at the time of the end.
In God's eyes, Israel as nation ENDED in 70 AD, however the people of Israel are now subject to the conditions of John 3:18.
If they don't, then each one who refuses to come to God through faith in Christ, is subject to the results of Rom. 8:9, because under the NC., there is no difference between a Jew and a Gentile.
Therefore, all Jews who have faith in Jesus, ever since Pentecost, will be of "the Great Multitude".
You do understand Jesus has not come and resurected Israel from the dead , don't you?
Mat. 27
[50] Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
[51] And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
[52] And the graves were opened; and MANY bodies of the saints which slept arose,
[53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Daniel 12:2

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Spiritually, you are correct. There are many that have been asleep in the dust of their living flesh, that do awaken when Jesus calls to them, but only few are chosen, because of their sincerety of heart and faith in following Jesus. ALL others are either lukewarm (indecisive), or have rejected His calling altogether. Rev. 3:15-20.
Jesus said he would not raise Israel till the last day..The last day has not arrived yet.


John 6:40

For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
Yes, which applies to this present Age of God's Grace in regards to having faith in Jesus, who HAS come, being made manifest in the flesh.

However, under the altar of the OC., all who were of faith and had died, were "remembered" by God. Malachi 3:16-17
They are seen in Rev. 6:9-11 each receiving the Promise of Eternal life (white robes), because "the Holy Ghost had NOT YET been GIVEN" permanently to anyone who lived under the OC., because Jesus had not yet been glorified (resurrected).