Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

You name it. That's what the Husband protects the wife from. What does protection have to do with patrichary anyway? I suppose it does but to me and all the men I've ever met (I think), it just came natural. Protect the wife, protect the female. That's just, how it is.

Not MY experience.
Year ago I had a boyfriend who actually STOOD BEHIND ME while some dude threatened to "Kick his Azz". The desire to "protect" isn't inherent in ALL men.

Want to hear the story where I protected my (who would be) my pregnant wife from two guys who tried to strong arm rob us? I was carrying a Colt 1911 45 and they didnt get anything from us. She had not a hand laid upon her!

It's a great story. We all left being friends I think? I know they wanted to be friends when I went for that 45! You should'a seen 'em!

I'll bet!!
I've only shot TWICE in my life. My late husband took me shooting (at HIS insistence, "In case he's not around") a few months after our honeymoon. Put a .22 rifle in my hands. My first shot was about 2" off the bullseye. I thought, "Nooooo. I'm going to MASTER this." Put the rest of the bullets into the bullseye making a group that was less than the size of a quarter. Reloaded. Shot again. Another group that was less than the size of a dime.

He gave me a Colt .45 to shoot outside at clay plates. He was laughing the whole time because I was clipping off these small pieces. I was hitting whatever I aimed at.

On the way home, he said, "I'll never have to worry about you protecting yourself." I was like, "YEAH. AS LONG AS I CAN CONVINCE MY ASSAILANT TO STAND WHERE THEY ARE, WHILE I SPEND ABOUT 10 SECONDS AIMING AT THEM, sitting down behind a few sandbags from 50 YARDS away!"

Laughable. But that experience DID give me confidence to know that IF I had a gun, I could aim and be a deadly shot.

 

[Mink57]

Spoken like a woman that likes to fix her own toilet! You go baby! Lol.

Not a question of WANTING to, but BEING ABLE to. It's one thing to tell a woman (especially) that she CAN'T do something (because she doesn't have the ability, skill, knowledge, etc. ) and another matter to tell her that she SHOULDN'T have to do something.

Dang it. I broke a nail while posting to you...

 

[Mink57]

Ohh, who cares who's name the property is in?! You get to live there and be provided for right? And you even got the freedom to go fix your own carberatuer if you want.

Noooooo! I didn't have that!

You live in his house, dont you?

HIS house? What happened to " Ohh, who cares whose name the property is in?!" What happened to OUR house? You can't have it BOTH ways.

I'm guessing because you said he's a jerk so I figure if it was your place then you'd boot him out! ??

...I want the property to be in my name also? Oh man, Pre-Nup!! Lol.

My late husband? Yeah, it was "his" house. And I was treated like a 'guest' in 'his' house, yet expected to be the 'maid'.

I left him. I refer to him as my "late husband" and not my "late EX husband" because we were not divorced when he passed away. We drew up divorce papers, and he was SHOCKED that I didn't want a dang thing from him. The guy was worth a few million (on paper). Stocks, bonds, 401K, other pension from other endeavors.

Nope. Keep it ALL. I just wanted to GET AWAY from a man who wanted me for his sexual escapades (I could tell you stories), to cook clean, take orders, and be subjected to his constant negativity and anger at the world...that he took out on ME.

You'll probably have a few things to say about this. O.k. I'll patiently wait until you're done reaming me.

...and THEN, I'll tell you about where I stand NOW.

 

[MA2444]

Not MY experience.
Year ago I had a boyfriend who actually STOOD BEHIND ME while some dude threatened to "Kick his Azz". The desire to "protect" isn't inherent in ALL men.

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps that boyfriend was a bad choice as a boyfriend?

I'll bet!!
I've only shot TWICE in my life. My late husband took me shooting (at HIS insistence, "In case he's not around") a few months after our honeymoon. Put a .22 rifle in my hands. My first shot was about 2" off the bullseye. I thought, "Nooooo. I'm going to MASTER this." Put the rest of the bullets into the bullseye making a group that was less than the size of a quarter. Reloaded. Shot again. Another group that was less than the size of a dime.

He gave me a Colt .45 to shoot outside at clay plates. He was laughing the whole time because I was clipping off these small pieces. I was hitting whatever I aimed at.

On the way home, he said, "I'll never have to worry about you protecting yourself." I was like, "YEAH. AS LONG AS I CAN CONVINCE MY ASSAILANT TO STAND WHERE THEY ARE, WHILE I SPEND ABOUT 10 SECONDS AIMING AT THEM, sitting down behind a few sandbags from 50 YARDS away!"

My first date with the girl that I married was to go shoot 22 rifles, lol! I already had it planned so why change plans just cause a girls coming now? She had never shot a gun before. (She grew up in Poland). Rule #1 Dont point it at anyone! But we had fun, lol.
I don't know why but lots of girls shooting for the first time like to giggle and point the loaded gun at someone that's there!

I taught her and the kids total safety and how to shoot good. I had her hitting 1 gal milk jugs filled with water at 100 yards with a 5.5" 44 magnum! She was hitting at 100 yards with 4 to 5 out of 6 shots! I said that before too, huh? Women who bother to shoot, are usually better than the Men. It's weird and I can't figure it out, lol. I think it might be an ego thing? Men like to show off some. WOmen will just step to the firing line and do what needs to be done. So maybe. I dunno.

Convince them to stand still like a target, Lol! I've been shooting and reloading my own Ammo for over 50 years, I could you things that would cause you to get even better, and faster. You already know how to shoot, you just need to get a little better! That's the easy part, lol. The hard part is always the ammo. It's expensive! SO people dont practice enough. I spend just as much on ammo as anybody else who dont reload because I buy the stuff to make the ammo in bulk so it still costs the same. But I get a lot more bullets out of it so can shoot more. The advantage is being able to shoot a lot more than them, and also to find the exact loads that my gun likes a lot and shoots the best with!
I have guns that have never shot a factory made bullet!

 

[MA2444]

Not a question of WANTING to, but BEING ABLE to. It's one thing to tell a woman (especially) that she CAN'T do something (because she doesn't have the ability, skill, knowledge, etc. ) and another matter to tell her that she SHOULDN'T have to do something.

Dang it. I broke a nail while posting to you...

Wasnt the context about who's name is on the deed? That you want to be able to say, I own it? But working, many of the jobs that men do, women can not do. That's not an insult, it's reality. And we're talking about work now, so it's not about, if a girl could go and do a mans job and actually complete the job. But wait, even though the job is finished now and you did it and completed it...!!!...dont forget that it isnt over now. You got to do this 40 hours a week? You think you finished that toilet job? We have two more of them same jobs scheduled for tomorrow! That has happened to me! I showed up for work too, you have to. Would you have shown up to do TWO more of the same jobs that were the exact job that you did on your own toilet that next day from when you did it?

How about 2000 hours per year? (Understand now why I wanted to go HVAC?!!) But men dont bring that stuff home with them. Not only you shouldn't be doing that stuff, but...you couldn't keep up. You couldn't do it! One time on your own toilet is awesome! Proud of you. But you do eed a man that is willing to go do that stuff or whatever it takes.

AFter I learned where the red wire goes (How to use a multi-meter, lol!), my work got a lot easier and I was happy about it. And to everyone that doesnt know where the red wire goes, I was some sort of master or something, so respect came with it too.
I remember my whole family was doing a move from our place to a better house and all her 3 little brothers were there and they was expecting and hoping for my help to load up that moving truck...and I got a service call for a pilot light out! I got to fiddle with little stuff way out in BFE and do next to nothing while all of them were working their butts off, and for me too! By the time I got back they were done! But, Dayys had to go to work! Lol!!

 

[Mink57]

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps that boyfriend was a bad choice as a boyfriend?

I didn't KNOW he was a 'bad choice' until AFTER that. Unfortunately,, they don't all wear their true selves on their sleeves from the get-go.

My first date with the girl that I married was to go shoot 22 rifles, lol! I already had it planned so why change plans just cause a girls coming now? She had never shot a gun before. (She grew up in Poland). Rule #1 Dont point it at anyone! But we had fun, lol.

Who knows. I never did. I already knew a LITTLE about gun safety by that point.

I taught her and the kids total safety and how to shoot good. I had her hitting 1 gal milk jugs filled with water at 100 yards with a 5.5" 44 magnum! She was hitting at 100 yards with 4 to 5 out of 6 shots! I said that before too, huh? Women who bother to shoot, are usually better than the Men. It's weird and I can't figure it out, lol. I think it might be an ego thing? Men like to show off some. WOmen will just step to the firing line and do what needs to be done. So maybe. I dunno.

Sure. I can see that. But the good news is, that she could probably take care of herself...and others...IF you're not around.
Sure you're not a feminist in disquise?

Convince them to stand still like a target, Lol! I've been shooting and reloading my own Ammo for over 50 years, I could you things that would cause you to get even better, and faster. You already know how to shoot, you just need to get a little better! That's the easy part, lol. The hard part is always the ammo. It's expensive! SO people dont practice enough. I spend just as much on ammo as anybody else who dont reload because I buy the stuff to make the ammo in bulk so it still costs the same. But I get a lot more bullets out of it so can shoot more. The advantage is being able to shoot a lot more than them, and also to find the exact loads that my gun likes a lot and shoots the best with!
I have guns that have never shot a factory made bullet!

Wow! Better? Ok! I'd take that in a heartbeat!

...and then go home and make you a sandwich with Miracle Whip/May, tomato, spinach leaves, cheese...

 

[Wrangler]

Not MY experience.
Year ago I had a boyfriend who actually STOOD BEHIND ME while some dude threatened to "Kick his Azz". The desire to "protect" isn't inherent in ALL men.

Your devotion to attempt to make rules from exceptions is remarkable.

However, in the spirit of fidelity to the truth, him going behind you to avoid danger is NOT EQUAL to you going in front of him to confront danger.

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps that boyfriend was a bad choice as a boyfriend?

UNEQUAL responsibility.

I learned from my experiences; either how I show up in relationships or what type of chick I’m willing to waste my time on.

I’ve posted several videos of how women tend not to learn from their experiences. This is under titles of women ‘hitting the wall.’

In their sexual prime, they seek Chad’s or Tyrone’s “having bedroom” fun but now that they’ve been run through for decades, they’re ready to get serious and settle down with a SIMP. Sadly, these women struggle to accept the reality that they’re no longer at the peak of their sexual prime AND the men they want don’t want them.

During their 20’s and 30’s they don’t learn from their relationship experiences; continue to chase the wrong kind of man and ‘find themselves’ (usually under a Chad’s or Tyrone) having fun rather than secure a good man while they are in their 20’s and in their sexual prime.

There is now even a term for these women; 49ers. They are a 4 who think they are and deserve a 9 who resentfully “settle” for a 7.

 

[Wrangler]

I didn't KNOW he was a 'bad choice' until AFTER that. Unfortunately,, they don't all wear their true selves on their sleeves from the get-go.

Responsibility is what separates the women from the girls.

Why put in quotes that he was a bad choice?

 

[Wrangler]

And there is neither male nor female is a repudiation of WHAT?

Feminism, an evil ideology wholly rooted in sexism. Don’t kid yourself; feminists are the greatest sexists.

Thanks for asking.

 

[Wrangler]

Who says it's a less stressed out life to be a SAHM or SAHD?

Any rational person knows this is true. Retirement is not as stressful as not being retired. That’s why people generally look forward to it.

Some PEOPLE simply aren't mentally equipped to handle being homemakers and caregivers. And some people's children are absolutely unruly.

You're using YOUR experience to measure ALL experiences, which is inaccurate.

Some people are mentally ill. Foolish to base a world view on exceptions rather than general rules.

It certainly is not merely @Wynona’s experience but an objective mind properly identifying reality. She mentioned status as a reason people work out if the home. That is certainly my wife’s foolish choice as I shared.

She didn’t want to sacrifice (a car) for a much more relaxing life. Yet, she occasionally laments having to work. Another example of the evil of feminism; encouraging women not to settle and the allure of having it all AS IF a feminist can have their cake and it it too.

 

[Wrangler]

Theodore Dalrymple > Quotes > Quotable Quote "

In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...

in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.

 

[Wynona]

Guys, my brain is fried. Just relocated and had moving day

 

[Wrangler]

Oh my! My tenant moved out today. He just got the key to the house he bought just last night. Ambitious.

Don’t get too stressed. It will take time to get everything in place the way you want.

 

[MA2444]

I didn't KNOW he was a 'bad choice' until AFTER that. Unfortunately,, they don't all wear their true selves on their sleeves from the get-go.

Well, you have to learn early to watch for the red flags. I started the wrong girl once. We went to McDonalds and were eating and all of a usdden she had a newspaper out and a pen in her hand. I siad, whatcha doing? And she said looking for a place for us. I already knew that I didnt want to play house with her because instead of red flags, she wore a red cape (sic, lol). But I had seen it. And she tried to pull a fast one on me, lol. I said, I'll be right back I have to go to the restroom...And I ghosted her! I left her sitting there Lol! But she never had my baby and I never married her. (She chased me for TWO years!)

Who knows. I never did. I already knew a LITTLE about gun safety by that point.

Yeah, most of us westerners grew up around guns.

Sure. I can see that. But the good news is, that she could probably take care of herself...and others...IF you're not around.

That's the idea because I have to work everyday. I had the kids up there at the range at around 3 yrs old and by the time they was 10 I was letting them keep loaded pistols in their bedroom (Yikes!), but I had already had them hunting with me, and I never did stop drilling them about gubs & guns safety. And I taught them, if I'm not here and something happens, save mommy! Save your mom! (every little bit helps when you have a home invasion going on!)

And nothing bad ever happened either. One night when they was 12ish. they had friends over in their room and I was out in the LR with mom and the older son calls to me and so I go to see what he wants. He said Dad take all our pistols for now, ok? Because the one kid is ok, but I'm not sure about the other one...we can get em back later, I have to go to bathroom sometimes and dont want him to be left alone with our guns!

Man! I was so proud of that boy! 12 yrs old, here hold the guns. I dont trust my friend!
Gun can not be child-proofed. The children must be gun-proofed. So when their at their friends and somebody pulls a pistol out of their dad's sock drawer...how to react! There is the safety!

Wow! Better? Ok! I'd take that in a heartbeat!

Ok I'll give you one. A big one! I didnt start getting real good with guns until I started paying a lot more attention to my trigger pull. When I started paying attention to my trigger, my skill level went way up! I started hitting consistently.

(There's 3 stages to a trigger pull. Feel every one of them as your are pulling the trigger.
First part is the take up on the trigger which doesn't fire it but takes you to the firing point on the trigger, Second part is the trigger pull itself and what you pay attention to feeling is the movement of the trigger (they call it Creep). Creep is no good. On a high dollar match grade trigger, you wont feel any trigger movement or creep through the trigger pull! The third part is the release of the sear, when it goes bang. How did it feel at the moment of let off? Crisp? Gritty? Funky? Good? Crisp is nice because it gives you surprise let off of the sear and goes bang. You dont, make the gun go off and jerk the trigger but rather press the trigger in a straight line and the gun goes off with a surprise Break. Don't make it fire,, let it fire, at that point, the gun goes bang but you are so focused upon the trigger (press) and the sights that you dont know when it was going to fire.
Actually there is sort of a fourth stage to trigger pull. After the shot breaks and goes bang...does the trigger keep moving? A lot of overtravel is not efficient. It is best to have the trigger be stopped at the moment it breaks the shot. That's match grade triggers also, for normal guns like you prolly have, you just deal with the over traavel of the trigger. It's of little consequence anyway. What you do is dry fire practice with it. Of course you double check that there is no amm even in the same room as where you intend to dryfire practice. No Ammo In The Gun!. Then you sit and watch TV or put up a target and practice paying attention to the trigger pull 5K times and you catch on. Your sub-conscious learns how to pay attention to the trigger pull. You get better....)

That brings us to the sights. If yur subconscious is paying attention to a good trigger pull, you can focus on your sights! Line them up and dry fire the gun without letting the front sight drift off of the target! Try different grips on the gun to see if one grip is more stable than another grip? Dont let that front sight move as you pull the trigger. A slight bit of front sight drift is to be expected. We all aint Dwayne Johnson and can grip the gun like it's in a vise, lol. You are holding the pistol and continuing to focus on your front sight (and your periphrial vison has the target in view)when your sights are perfect on the target you begin pressing the trigger and when the front sight drifts off the bulls eye the pressing motion on the trigger stops, then when you bring the front sight back perfectly in alignment with the rear sight you begin pressing the trigger again. And one of those times it (will go bang, I TOLD YOU To CHECK FOR NO AMMO!) Lol) or the hammer will fall if no ammo is in the gun.

It sounds like it might be hard, like there is a lot going on and not really, because your sub-conscious is doing a lot of it and it is actually pretty quick. That's why you dry fire 5K or 10K times (and practice it with live ammo at the range!) and it's not hard at all. There's just a lot to pay attention to, but your subconscious takes care of that. It's like Driving a car almost. You've been to that one store so many times that you could drive there in your sleep. Shooting is like that. Drive the gun. (and lock them elbows!). Front sight, Press, front sight, Press, fornt sight, Press BANG A Bullseye! .

Looking through the shot.

So many people that I have watched over the years...when they shoot, the close their eyes at the last second. It's like their scared the bang will hurt them or something. Dont do that! Look through the shot. You know the gun will go bang, force yourself to concentrate so hard on the front sight that your vision is never switched off. Let the gun go bang and even recoil in your arms. Yu cant stop it. So go with the flow. And continue to see the front sight on target even after the gun went bang. Where exactly was the front sight at when it went bang? (Then you can call your shots!). Look through the shot. The bang or recoil will not hurt you.

If your're hanging on tight lol.

Uh-oh. Feminists, the topic. Sorry, I like talking about guns and stuff, lol. Dont give your gun to a Feminist! Lol!

I got real good real fast when I paid attention to the trigger and sights.
Wow, that's prolly 4 or 5 hundred dollars in training I just gave to the world and my countrymen! Enjoy. Practice!

 

[MA2444]

Sure you're not a feminist in disquise?

Bite your tongue! Go make me a sandwich!

...and then go home and make you a sandwich with Miracle Whip/May, tomato, spinach leaves, cheese...

Whoa, you already made me one! I'm impressed! Good on ya'!!
What type of gun do you have? A semi-auto or a revolver?

 

[Mink57]

Wasnt the context about who's name is on the deed? That you want to be able to say, I own it? But working, many of the jobs that men do, women can not do. That's not an insult, it's reality. And we're talking about work now, so it's not about, if a girl could go and do a mans job and actually complete the job. But wait, even though the job is finished now and you did it and completed it...!!!...dont forget that it isnt over now. You got to do this 40 hours a week? You think you finished that toilet job? We have two more of them same jobs scheduled for tomorrow! That has happened to me! I showed up for work too, you have to. Would you have shown up to do TWO more of the same jobs that were the exact job that you did on your own toilet that next day from when you did it?

How about 2000 hours per year? (Understand now why I wanted to go HVAC?!!) But men dont bring that stuff home with them. Not only you shouldn't be doing that stuff, but...you couldn't keep up. You couldn't do it! One time on your own toilet is awesome! Proud of you. But you do eed a man that is willing to go do that stuff or whatever it takes.

B-b-b-but...Plenty of men ALSO wouldn't be able to do that same task, nor would they WANT to do it for 2000 hours a year! In fact, I could go a step farther, and say that of the male working class, MOST men wouldn't know the first thing about HVAC...or even plumbing! Does that mean that MOST men are 'sissies'? Wooses? Lame? Useless? Of COURSE not! It just means that their skills/talents/interests lie in other directions. While I RESPECT the men who take on the tougher tasks, I also RESPECT the ones who admit, "I wouldn't want to touch HVAC with a 10-foot pole! Let's call a technician..."

I also know of a few women who would put their husbands DOWN for NOT automatically knowing EVERYTHING about how to fix things in the house, or how to fix a car. And THOSE women I sometimes want to slap silly!

AFter I learned where the red wire goes (How to use a multi-meter, lol!), my work got a lot easier and I was happy about it. And to everyone that doesnt know where the red wire goes, I was some sort of master or something, so respect came with it too.

Ok. I'll bite...where does the red wire go? Understanding that once you tell me, I won't 'need' you anymore.
Obviously, I'm just teasing you. And yes, I know where you're coming from.

I remember my whole family was doing a move from our place to a better house and all her 3 little brothers were there and they was expecting and hoping for my help to load up that moving truck...and I got a service call for a pilot light out! I got to fiddle with little stuff way out in BFE and do next to nothing while all of them were working their butts off, and for me too! By the time I got back they were done! But, Dayys had to go to work! Lol!!

Again, I get where you're coming from.

 

[Mink57]

Bite your tongue! Go make me a sandwich!



Whoa, you already made me one! I'm impressed! Good on ya'!!
What type of gun do you have? A semi-auto or a revolver?

I don't own any guns. My late hubs owned the guns. Let's see...I know he own a .22 rifle, and I think it was a Ruger...He also owned a Colt .45 (recoil almost tore my arm off the first time I shot!) ...a S&W .357 revolver...a Walther P38 (I think)...plus, he owned a handgun with the grip carved out of wood...for a left handed shooter (he was right handed). He bought that as a collector's piece, not for home protection, lol!

 

[Mink57]

Well, you have to learn early to watch for the red flags. I started the wrong girl once. We went to McDonalds and were eating and all of a usdden she had a newspaper out and a pen in her hand. I siad, whatcha doing? And she said looking for a place for us. I already knew that I didnt want to play house with her because instead of red flags, she wore a red cape (sic, lol). But I had seen it. And she tried to pull a fast one on me, lol. I said, I'll be right back I have to go to the restroom...And I ghosted her! I left her sitting there Lol! But she never had my baby and I never married her. (She chased me for TWO years!)

Ouch! I KNEW there had to be more to the story than you just ditching her...because! Looking for a place for you both? A bit presumptuous on her part?

Unfortunately, I didn't know anything about "red flags" in the 70's-80's. I was supposed to be the 'Good Christian Girl' who forgave 'my man' for WHATEVER he did. He cheats? Forgive him. He lies and steals? Forgive him. He puts me down? Smacks me around? FORGIVE him.

Ha.

Enter Feminism.....

Yeah, most of us westerners grew up around guns.

I'm originally from NY. Moved to California when I was 21 (on my own), and from there, traveled/lived all over, including overseas. I dated a cop for a while in NY, so that was my first experience with guns.

That's the idea because I have to work everyday. I had the kids up there at the range at around 3 yrs old and by the time they was 10 I was letting them keep loaded pistols in their bedroom (Yikes!), but I had already had them hunting with me, and I never did stop drilling them about gubs & guns safety. And I taught them, if I'm not here and something happens, save mommy! Save your mom! (every little bit helps when you have a home invasion going on!)

Good on you! I'm sorry to say, but too many people don't care enough about gun safety. My late husband included. Grrrr...

And nothing bad ever happened either. One night when they was 12ish. they had friends over in their room and I was out in the LR with mom and the older son calls to me and so I go to see what he wants. He said Dad take all our pistols for now, ok? Because the one kid is ok, but I'm not sure about the other one...we can get em back later, I have to go to bathroom sometimes and dont want him to be left alone with our guns!

Yikes!!!

Man! I was so proud of that boy! 12 yrs old, here hold the guns. I dont trust my friend!
Gun can not be child-proofed. The children must be gun-proofed. So when their at their friends and somebody pulls a pistol out of their dad's sock drawer...how to react! There is the safety!

Wow! I LOVE what's bolded!!

Ok I'll give you one. A big one!

*Mink eagerly listening*

I didnt start getting real good with guns until I started paying a lot more attention to my trigger pull. When I started paying attention to my trigger, my skill level went way up! I started hitting consistently.

(There's 3 stages to a trigger pull. Feel every one of them as your are pulling the trigger.
First part is the take up on the trigger which doesn't fire it but takes you to the firing point on the trigger, Second part is the trigger pull itself and what you pay attention to feeling is the movement of the trigger (they call it Creep). Creep is no good. On a high dollar match grade trigger, you wont feel any trigger movement or creep through the trigger pull! The third part is the release of the sear, when it goes bang. How did it feel at the moment of let off? Crisp? Gritty? Funky? Good? Crisp is nice because it gives you surprise let off of the sear and goes bang. You dont, make the gun go off and jerk the trigger but rather press the trigger in a straight line and the gun goes off with a surprise Break. Don't make it fire,, let it fire, at that point, the gun goes bang but you are so focused upon the trigger (press) and the sights that you dont know when it was going to fire.
Actually there is sort of a fourth stage to trigger pull. After the shot breaks and goes bang...does the trigger keep moving? A lot of overtravel is not efficient. It is best to have the trigger be stopped at the moment it breaks the shot. That's match grade triggers also, for normal guns like you prolly have, you just deal with the over traavel of the trigger. It's of little consequence anyway. What you do is dry fire practice with it. Of course you double check that there is no amm even in the same room as where you intend to dryfire practice. No Ammo In The Gun!. Then you sit and watch TV or put up a target and practice paying attention to the trigger pull 5K times and you catch on. Your sub-conscious learns how to pay attention to the trigger pull. You get better....)

So far, I'm with you. I DO recall my late hubs explaining to me to take my time with the trigger (target shooting, obviously). I DO remember feeling some kind of...'stages' with the pull. First stage nothing happens...second stage, still nothing, but THEN, there's a..."catch". At that point, I FINALLY understood what was meant by "hair-trigger".

You would have been a good teacher for me.

That brings us to the sights. If yur subconscious is paying attention to a good trigger pull, you can focus on your sights! Line them up and dry fire the gun without letting the front sight drift off of the target! Try different grips on the gun to see if one grip is more stable than another grip? Dont let that front sight move as you pull the trigger. A slight bit of front sight drift is to be expected. We all aint Dwayne Johnson and can grip the gun like it's in a vise, lol. You are holding the pistol and continuing to focus on your front sight (and your periphrial vison has the target in view)when your sights are perfect on the target you begin pressing the trigger and when the front sight drifts off the bulls eye the pressing motion on the trigger stops, then when you bring the front sight back perfectly in alignment with the rear sight you begin pressing the trigger again. And one of those times it (will go bang, I TOLD YOU To CHECK FOR NO AMMO!) Lol) or the hammer will fall if no ammo is in the gun.

Dry fire? HA! Late hubs never showed me that. But from what I told you, I was pretty good about being able to line up the target through the sight. Took my time...

It sounds like it might be hard, like there is a lot going on and not really, because your sub-conscious is doing a lot of it and it is actually pretty quick. That's why you dry fire 5K or 10K times (and practice it with live ammo at the range!) and it's not hard at all. There's just a lot to pay attention to, but your subconscious takes care of that. It's like Driving a car almost. You've been to that one store so many times that you could drive there in your sleep. Shooting is like that. Drive the gun. (and lock them elbows!). Front sight, Press, front sight, Press, fornt sight, Press BANG A Bullseye! .

Looking through the shot.

So many people that I have watched over the years...when they shoot, the close their eyes at the last second. It's like their scared the bang will hurt them or something. Dont do that! Look through the shot. You know the gun will go bang, force yourself to concentrate so hard on the front sight that your vision is never switched off. Let the gun go bang and even recoil in your arms. Yu cant stop it. So go with the flow. And continue to see the front sight on target even after the gun went bang. Where exactly was the front sight at when it went bang? (Then you can call your shots!). Look through the shot. The bang or recoil will not hurt you.

If your're hanging on tight lol.

Yeah, I was never like that. Didn't close my eyes at the last second...expected the recoil, and like you said, "go with the flow". And I KNEW just by the FEEL, I MISSED where I was aiming. Oh, I still hit the bullseye, but I missed my 'goal'. Ugh.

Uh-oh. Feminists, the topic. Sorry, I like talking about guns and stuff, lol. Dont give your gun to a Feminist! Lol!

Ohhhhhh! And to think I was starting to LIKE you!

I got real good real fast when I paid attention to the trigger and sights.
Wow, that's prolly 4 or 5 hundred dollars in training I just gave to the world and my countrymen! Enjoy. Practice!

LOL! I PROMISE I'll take it heart...and HOPE I'll never have to use it!

 

[Wrangler]

I don't own any guns. My late hubs owned the guns. Let's see...I know he own a .22 rifle, and I think it was a Ruger...He also owned a Colt .45 (recoil almost tore my arm off the first time I shot!) ...a S&W .357 revolver...a Walther P38 (I think)...plus, he owned a handgun with the grip carved out of wood...for a left handed shooter (he was right handed). He bought that as a collector's piece, not for home protection, lol!

Are the guns still in your possession?

My ex-wife was a good shot. I got her a 9 mm Browning handgun one year during our marriage. Fits in your hand like a dream. I kept all the guns after the divorce; not by agreement just by habit as I kept all the guns together. (Our divorce agreement never touched on this subject and it was on neither of our minds.) Anyway, about a year after the divorce she called me one night obviously shaken. She had been getting some crank calls in the middle of the night.

I have little doubt that part of her suspected it could be me and called to also gage my reaction. I was supportive and sympathetic and reminded her that I had her gun. I asked her if she wanted it. As I recall (more than 20 years ago now), I did more than ask. I advised her to take it AND keep it loaded for home defense. I told her I don't know who this crazy guy is but I don't want the mother of my children in danger.

I think the fact that I thought of her as still occupying a place of honor in my life reassured her. (Some cognitive dissonance also of the great guy she married and the a-hole who divorced her). Part of her also hoped that I would be the knight in shinning armor coming to rescue the damsel in distress; a ploy to get my attention and re-establish my affection. That did not happen.

Side Note. Her cognitive dissonance was apparent during the separation stage, making it abundantly clear she was very willing to forgive me for what she did wrong ... if only she had a smidgen of a capacity to have emotional responsibility. Oh well. Leaving that feminist poisoned women was the most important decision I made in my life.

 

[Wrangler]

It seems that I am not welcome on this topic. (since we can't have a level-headed discussion)

You give yourself too much credit. It is not a 'level headed' discussion to ignore questions that reveal errors in one's world view. Seeing "the good" in evil is not good.

These questions have been asked repeatedly with neither you nor @Mink57 answering them.

Is there anything of the world that you are against? It doesnt seem like it from all your posts. What of the world do you dislike and will not accept no matter what?

Do you think us men should be accepting of feminism? Are you? It sounds like you are. What did you do to be more acceting of the feminism creed? How should other men be to feminists and why?

I understand why you want to avoid this question. You prefer to be lukewarm, strattling the fence of "the good" in both sides of an argument. Consider this; truth is one sided and Jesus said Whoever is not with me is against me Matthew 12:30, means you cannot be 'friends' to both sides.

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20

As a young child I contemplated the anti-Christ, the opposite of the son of God. I deduced the Being would be a woman. (I found it odd that the text of Scripture refers to this Being as also male.) So, it did not surprise me in the least that an evil ideology, worse that communism and fascim combined, would use women as its flag bearers. Feminism uses women as a shield, pretending any criticism of this evil ideology is a hateful attack on women. Hence the discerning mantra I developed:
Love Women
Hate Feminism

The same with opposing BLM. Any criticism is deflected as racist. You described my opposition as militant. This is true but imprecise. Feminism has become bedfellows with the global Left. One of my favorite things is to point out the hypocrisy of Leftists/Cultural Marxists, etc. Hypocrites were the groups Jesus targeted for his ire, was it not?

God is a god of order not chaos.

the head of every man is the Messiah, and the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of the Messiah is God.
1 Corinthians 11:3

When there is disagreement, who makes the final decision according to the evil feminist ideology?

A simple but profoundly revealing question.

Order is responsible. Chaos is irresponsible. Feminism undermines responsibility in women. This is the triumph @Wynona achieved over feminism. Unlike @Mink57, who cannot accept any responsibility with the men she chooses, considers herself a victim and it is men's fault, @Wynona has taken responsibility for her life's choices. And this has made all the difference between one woman being happy and another eternally resentful.

In addition to responsibility, the vids I showed on why women hate MGTOW reveal another HUGE divide between men and women. Risk. Men are much better at managing risk, including the psychological weight of failing. Life is not always safe. There are dangers to navigate at every level: physical, financial, relational, legal, emotional, moral, etc.

Women like to be in a position to acquiesce to a man they desire's initiative for them. In the work place, when Chad says the woman looks good in a dress, she's flattered. When a man she considered unattractive says the exact same thing, calls are made to HR complaining this constitutes sexual harassment. This explains why men are ignoring women in the work place. Women crave attention and don't like being ignored. But their embrace of the evil ideology of feminism caused this dynamic.

Men are expected to take the risk to ask a woman on a date and ask the women to marry. Why? Rejection is not easy as it is a kind of death and women do everything they can to avoid it. Pearl said feminists want to be equal. So, go be equal. But this equality involves risk and that is why women hate MGTOW, which is why there are many vids showing their strong contempt and resentment for the consequences the evil ideology of feminism has caused.

Feminists want their cake and eat it too. They want the freedom of men but not the responsibility of men, including the responsibility of dealing with risks, especially in relationships. They want all the benefit while men take on all the burden. This is not equality and this explains the MGTOW movement.

One other point @St. SteVen; the gist of this thread, the definition, if you will, is triumphing over feminism. One does not triumph over virtue. One triumphs over vice, over sin, over evil. Hope you consider answering these important and revealing questions.