Q for JW- KIEW?

[rebuilder 454]

Watchtowers do not know God's remedy for sin .

 

[rebuilder 454]

They are lost and will not enter heaven

 

[Keiw]

That is the ot.
Obedience
The law proves you beak it regularly.
You can not answer correctly

Jesus assures all at John 15:10-14 = To remain his friend and remain in his love one MUST obey him, the same that Jesus must obey his Father to remain in his love. ))))) Obeying is proof of ones love

 

[Jack]

Thats not the point-Trinitarians-NEVER seek Jehovah's righteousness first because the blind guides leading those religions teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first=they fail to listen to Jesus.

No Scripture? Of course not!

 

[Jack]

what a blind statement straight from a heart of darkness. I shared Matt 6:33 many times. Those are Jesus' words, but you are correct, the watchtower magazine does teach that truth from Jesus. We all know it by heart--Why don't you? Could it be blind guides fail to teach it even though its super important?

Shared is not quoting. JW's don't even believe their own NWT bible!

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jesus assures all at John 15:10-14 = To remain his friend and remain in his love one MUST obey him, the same that Jesus must obey his Father to remain in his love. ))))) Obeying is proof of ones love

We all know to be obedient. We all know you are not. John said if any man says he does not sin he is a liar.
I want to know how you get forgiveness.
What is the remedy that God made?
I could give you a hint.
( has to do with innocence)

 

[rebuilder 454]

Watchtowers do not know God's remedy for sin .

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Keiw]

We all know to be obedient. We all know you are not. John said if any man says he does not sin he is a liar.
I want to know how you get forgiveness.
What is the remedy that God made?
I could give you a hint.
( has to do with innocence)

I never said i don't sin. Where do you come up with this?
Mortals must do certain things to get forgiveness. Repent and turn around( stop doing the sin) to get sins blotted out( Acts 3:19)--some seem to think Jesus ransom automatically covers all sin, they are wrong.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I never said i don't sin. Where do you come up with this?
Mortals must do certain things to get forgiveness. Repent and turn around( stop doing the sin) to get sins blotted out( Acts 3:19)--some seem to think Jesus ransom automatically covers all sin, they are wrong.

You can not enter heaven with sin.
We all have lack of obedience.
Only one way to enter heaven.
God has only one remedy for sin.

 

[Berean]

Jesus assures all at John 15:10-14 = To remain his friend and remain in his love one MUST obey him, the same that Jesus must obey his Father to remain in his love. ))))) Obeying is proof of ones love

But you don't obey Jesus or the Father, you obey the Governing Body

 

[Jack]

But you don't obey Jesus or the Father, you obey the Governing Body

That's a FACT!

 

[Keiw]

You can not enter heaven with sin.
We all have lack of obedience.
Only one way to enter heaven.
God has only one remedy for sin.

The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number,of other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of this fold=little flock( Luke 12:32)=numbered 144,000 bought from the earth,( Rev 14:3) are not promised heaven anywhere in Gods bible.

 

[Keiw]

But you don't obey Jesus or the Father, you obey the Governing Body

Jesus leads the governing body, Jehovah tells Jesus what to do.--so your thinking is error.

 

[Berean]

Jesus leads the governing body, Jehovah tells Jesus what to do.--so your thinking is error.

Ah, So Jehovah tells Jesus what to do and Jesus tells the Governing Body? They must not listen very well, since they're constantly making changes under the guise of "new light".

 

[Berean]

The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number, of other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of this fold=little flock( Luke 12:32)=numbered 144,000 bought from the earth,( Rev 14:3) are not promised heaven anywhere in Gods bible.

They would if you interpreted those verses the right way.

 

[face2face]

They are lost and will not enter heaven

Where is Heaven promised for the Saints? Always get me Christians have this heaven going thing going on.
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[rebuilder 454]

Where is Heaven promised for the Saints? Always get me Christians have this heaven going thing going on.
F2F

Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Jesus took the patriarchs in Paradise to heaven.
John saw fellow believers in heaven.
John saw millions of martyrs in heaven.
Without a doubt, believers go to heaven when they die.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number,of other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of this fold=little flock( Luke 12:32)=numbered 144,000 bought from the earth,( Rev 14:3) are not promised heaven anywhere in Gods bible.

Lol
The 144k are in heaven in Rev 14

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yes watchtower adherents DO NOT go to heaven.
So heaven is nowhere promised to heretics.
So watchtower still gets an F due to being half right.

 

[face2face]

Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Meaning he would like to sleep in Christ like all those who went before him.

Jesus took the patriarchs in Paradise to heaven.

Meaning their next waking moment they would be with Christ

John saw fellow believers in heaven.

Verse?

John saw millions of martyrs in heaven.

Verse?

Without a doubt, believers go to heaven when they die.

No sorry...it's a comforting thought but that's all.

If you want to study any of your thoughts and quotes put one up and lets have a look, happy to open the Word anytime

No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. John 3:13

Only one man has ever ascended Heaven and will remain for this epoch....after the God is all in and all - its possible but even then nothing is said.

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