Are Tarot cards okay?

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Messing around with those with familiar spirits and inquiring of them is pretty much a guarantee that your relationship with God will be irreconcilable.

Game over.

STAY AWAY!
 

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I would think it safe to assume that demons can communicate with other demons. So a person bound do a demon can learn secrets about someone else through demons that person is associated with. And since the demons are all on the same side, they will cooperate.
 

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I would think it safe to assume that demons can communicate with other demons. So a person bound do a demon can learn secrets about someone else through demons that person is associated with. And since the demons are all on the same side, they will cooperate.
Yes, they are called "familiars" and they can pose as loved ones who have passed away, in order to deceive ...or anything they need to, since they've hung around studying those they're assigned to for generation after generation. So they know all the dirt. And since they know how to manipulate their subjects into certain situations and actions,. it's pretty easy for them to "predict your future." Using tarot cards is inviting demons to intrude into and control your life.
 

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Hey, man! Tarot cards are all about tapping into the vibes of the universe and finding some guidance. It’s not for everyone, but if it helps you connect with your inner self, then that’s cool. Just follow your heart and keep it positive. And if you’re looking for more insights, check out www.sspdaily.com for some fresh thoughts. Peace and love!
 
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Hey there, friend! You know, the way I see it, everything in this world has its own energy and intention. Tarot cards, like anything else, are tools, and it’s all about how you use them. If you approach them with love, respect, and an open heart, they can be a beautiful way to connect with your inner self and the universe.
Demons will not be truthful about their intentions, they have a goal of leading people to damnation. Tools are useful, but tarot cards are anything but. If demons help it isn't beneficial, and then you might just be stuck with a demon if you obey it.
 
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Anything to do with the occult, which Tarot cards do, open the door for demonic influence in your life. Throw them in the trash or burn them.

Anyone wanting to know more on this subject can read about it in Charles D. Fraune's book,

Slaying Dragons: What Exorcists See & What We Should Know

 
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I think they are laughable and ridiculous.

As if some bit of printed paper is capable of bridging between the dead and the living. When Jesus quite clearly said its impossible.
And if Jesus said it's impossible....except for Him....the rest are simply playing games.
 
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I think they are laughable and ridiculous.

As if some bit of printed paper is capable of bridging between the dead and the living. When Jesus quite clearly said its impossible.
And if Jesus said it's impossible....except for Him....the rest are simply playing games.
Bible verse?
 
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I think they are laughable and ridiculous.

As if some bit of printed paper is capable of bridging between the dead and the living. When Jesus quite clearly said its impossible.
And if Jesus said it's impossible....except for Him....the rest are simply playing games.


I have used ouija many times on many occasions. These things just bring out darkness if anything. Because there is an allure, just as much as there was an allure for me finding the Church of Satan in 2006-07... ya know? Darkness, but not so much demons, or Satan, but of course darkness is "satan" adversity towards light... but I digress...

Tarot Cards are not seeking out faithfully towards Yahavah... you are look at a material aspect, and a person to tell you what you wanna hear, or don't wanna hear... It's a facade... just as much as "speaking in a tongue in an un-understandable language."
 
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Bible verse?
Why? Do you not know the scriptures?
How do you have a faith when you do not know God's words to us? This is not an obscure story or even unpopular. The verses are some of the most read and reread ones out there.
 
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Why? Do you not know the scriptures?
How do you have a faith when you do not know God's words to us? This is not an obscure story or even unpopular. The verses are some of the most read and reread ones out there.
You said "Jesus said it was impossible". Impossible for what? Jesus believes the demons can possess you. I can post those scriptures.
 
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I have used ouija many times on many occasions. These things just bring out darkness if anything. Because there is an allure, just as much as there was an allure for me finding the Church of Satan in 2006-07... ya know? Darkness, but not so much demons, or Satan, but of course darkness is "satan" adversity towards light... but I digress...

Tarot Cards are not seeking out faithfully towards Yahavah... you are look at a material aspect, and a person to tell you what you wanna hear, or don't wanna hear... It's a facade... just as much as "speaking in a tongue in an un-understandable language."
Exactly!
I was breaking down the various resources and mechanics to decipher scripture that surround Ephesians 5:18. "Do not be full of wine but instead be full of the Holy Spirit"

And I went through the mechanics of how this was in actuality more of a summary statement than another prohibition of a particular activity or promotion of anything in particular. How this statement by Paul was more than just referring to wine but a wider and broader range statement discussing having an appropriate attitude of pleasing God....it's focus is about eternal heaven and not Earthly and physical things.

And you are correct about the tongues speaking that no one understands. It's for Earthly self promotion instead of promoting God and his Goodness. It gives an illusion without substance. And God is all about substance.

The whole section was painful to write...and I feel a constant need to go back and adjust everything. We get to take our words back and rephrase when writing a book...which greatly delays progress. So annoying too.

But I thought to say that you hit the nail squarely when you discussed "seeking darkness". That's a central truth right there!
 
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You said "Jesus said it was impossible". Impossible for what? Jesus believes the demons can possess you. I can post those scriptures.
You can play all the games you like but I'm not.
The dead cannot converse with the living through some bit of paper.

And you can post all the scriptures you want about demon possession from the New Testament.
But just so you know....Jesus was pretending to be an exorcist. No one in his day really believed in exorcism or exorcist that believed in God. Certainly not any self respecting Schmeekah Rabbi. The exorcist always sold the "patient" a potion of wormwood (hallucinogenic) so they could see the demons needing removed and the cycle would repeat until the patients always just wanted the potion. (Highly addictive...later outlawed).

Jesus's game of pretending to be an exorcist was to demonstrate their unbelief. Because Jesus charged nothing financially, used no potions, and his patients remained healed. (Very unlike the rest of the exorcists)

This isn't exactly hidden anthropology....kinda well published everywhere. The syncreticism of the religion of the Persian Empire with Judaism and Muslims is well documented.

So...I again ask: Do you know what God has said?
 

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Can you draw to a straight flush with them?​

If you have a full tarocchi deck, then yes. But most "tarot" decks only include the major arcana, and are used for "fortunetelling" rather than to play a card game.
 

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You said "Jesus said it was impossible". Impossible for what? Jesus believes the demons can possess you. I can post those scriptures.
Have you ever done the deep-dive on the word devils and demons in the Bible? It's interesting.

What we usually think of as demons (external malevolent entities exerting influence on people) is comparatively rare in Scripture. Where Scripture does talk about them, it's usually applied to foreign gods, and they're usually called devils rather than demons.

There's also a verb form of the word - demonizing - which is far more common in the NT. Grammar suggests that this is something that a person does to themself! If word etymology is an indicator, demonizing happens when a person (attempts to?) set their own fortunes. That seems relevant to a discussion of tarot and fortune-telling.
 
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Deuteronomy 18:9-11
Have you ever done the deep-dive on the word devils and demons in the Bible? It's interesting.

What we usually think of as demons (external malevolent entities exerting influence on people) is comparatively rare in Scripture. Where Scripture does talk about them, it's usually applied to foreign gods, and they're usually called devils rather than demons.

There's also a verb form of the word - demonizing - which is far more common in the NT. Grammar suggests that this is something that a person does to themself! If word etymology is an indicator, demonizing happens when a person (attempts to?) set their own fortunes. That seems relevant to a discussion of tarot and fortune-telling.
When you see them(demons), you don't need scripture, only the name of Jesus. I can tell you what they look like. They are real and desperate to be in a "wet" human.
Matthew 12:43 - “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.
This is why I tell those who cast out a spirit to try and tell that person about Jesus quick. And also, that demon is looking for someone else now.
 
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You can play all the games you like but I'm not.
The dead cannot converse with the living through some bit of paper.

And you can post all the scriptures you want about demon possession from the New Testament.
But just so you know....Jesus was pretending to be an exorcist. No one in his day really believed in exorcism or exorcist that believed in God. Certainly not any self respecting Schmeekah Rabbi. The exorcist always sold the "patient" a potion of wormwood (hallucinogenic) so they could see the demons needing removed and the cycle would repeat until the patients always just wanted the potion. (Highly addictive...later outlawed).

Jesus's game of pretending to be an exorcist was to demonstrate their unbelief. Because Jesus charged nothing financially, used no potions, and his patients remained healed. (Very unlike the rest of the exorcists)

This isn't exactly hidden anthropology....kinda well published everywhere. The syncreticism of the religion of the Persian Empire with Judaism and Muslims is well documented.

So...I again ask: Do you know what God has said?
God says this.

Deuteronomy 18:9-11 - When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
 
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Deuteronomy 18:9-11

When you see them(demons), you don't need scripture, only the name of Jesus. I can tell you what they look like. They are real and desperate to be in a "wet" human.

Matthew 12:43 - “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.

This is why I tell those who cast out a spirit to try and tell that person about Jesus quick. And also, that demon is looking for someone else now.
But they can't just overpower any person they want and take over, can they? Some people are vulnerable and some aren't.