Charismatic Bible Studies - 2 Peter 1:5-11

[Johan]

The Scriptural Meetings from the Living God is clearly defined in the Bible. And were done by our Brothers with their Apostolic Anointing.




1 Cor. 14: 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

This is no "study" of the Bible. Where the mind is doing this endeavor. But rather it is the manifestation of the Gifts from God in "Speaking from the Belly".

John 7:
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[amigo de christo]

Having the ability to choose at least some things - what we eat, wear, live, but not when we live or die, or who is our family, or, we cannot choose to flap our arms and fly to the moon, that is ourside our nature. So "free will" is very limited.

Yes, certainly it is important to have your fellowship in the body of Christ and not unbelievers.

Even so, none of these thing, nor do the Scriptures you've posted, show that the born again may become unborn again.

Comparing ourselves to Adam is fruitless, because we are not given the information that we'd need to make any meaningful comparison. It's appropriation to try to do that. You have to fill in the details that make your case, and that's not valid.


Do you think Jesus said what was not true? That Jesus had actually once known them, and no longer does? No. "I never knew you."

Much love!

Anyone who goes into the all inclusive interfaith false love lie that implies all religoins serve the same GOD we do
and believes muslims and other religoins are serving GOD ,
WERE EITHER NEVER OF US , or will repent of the lie that start exposing satans finding common ground interfaith lie .
NO SHEEP denies THE FACT one must BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . THAT HE IS INDEED THE SON OF GOD
and the ONLY name whereby one may be saved and that YE MUST BELIEVE.
ONLY the decieved would do such a thing . AND Its also why i warn those even caught up in that
TO GET THE HECK OUT OF IT . NOW enough with this idea its okay to be mormon , jw , RCC . THAT TOO IS DEAD WRONG .
We must pull people OUT of such places and remind them to GET IN the BIBLE for their own selves .
SO watch out . this judge not correct not , HAS GOT TO GO and GO RIGHT NOW .
let the men who warn ALONE and at least pray for such .

 

[marks]

Also, these are the only teachings in the NT that say the rich cannot enter eternal life if they don't sell all they have and distribute to the poor.

It doesn't say that. You can see for yourself:

Mark 10:20-27 KJV
20) And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21) Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23) And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24) And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25) It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26) And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
27) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

A Born Again can never be un- birthed from the Spirit...they are on that narrow path,because they were chosen by God and predestined to become his child and belong to Jesus... of course we have to walk that path and through walking that path, the Living Spirit who indwell s our spirit, teaches us to stay on that path...of course we can step off the path of life and walk in self, but, God has his children in the palm of his hand ...he will always get us back on that narrow path, because we are his spirit children.we belong to Jesus we are his 100% ..he owns us and we were brought for a price, which was the death and resurrection of Jesus.

If the Father has given those from him to the Son, he will never lose one...Praise God...we are being conformed to become more and more like Jesus from the Living Spirit who indwells our spirit.

NONE CAN EVER PLUCK US OUT OF JESUS HANDS.

John 10:28-30​

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King James Version​

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28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one

Therre is a problem , however my dear sister . And its a huge one too .
And it is this . NOT ALL WHO CLIAM TO BE BORN again are BORN again .
We cannot preach two gospels . NO born again sheep will do so . AND if some get caught up
we must do as paul did and warn and remind them THERE IS NOT TWO GOSPELS .
cause i am seeing many who cliam to BE HIS
headed right into interfaith all inclusive , SISTER THAT MESS IS OF ANTI CHRIST .
OF SATAN . and may i be long dead and stinking in the soil before i say otherwise . THOUGH it will only
be this body that lies stinking and rotting , FOR THIS SHEEP GONNA BE WITH THE KING WHO SAVED IT
AS WILL ALL WHO are HIS .
I am worn out with this inclusive lie that has made the road to GOD so broad
that about the only ones not on it , ARE MEN LIKE ME WHO EXPOSE THIS LIE and do correct sin and error
WHO DO REMIND ALL that one MUST BELIEVE and that all other religoins are in darkness .
THAT IS WHO this lovey DO is coming against sister . MEN Like me who wont conform and wont budge .
I hope that helps .

 

[marks]

Of course, I am serious. I looked up all the accounts in the gospels and read them, and am just telling you what I noticed for the first time.

I took them at their word seeing as they were not called liars about those abilities.

The point being, just because Jesus didn't contradict those who said they did all these works in Jesus' Name, this does not mean that they actually did those things. They said they did many good works, but Jesus called them workers of iniquity, and stated that He never knew them. Never. Not that He once knew them, but never did.

The only reason I brought up this fellow from Mark's Gospel was to demonstrate that Jesus not contradicting him was not evidence that he had actually fully kept the Law from childhood. It just shows that Jesus did not address that point, and went on to express what He did.

I'd prefer to not get sidetracked from the topic we were discussing.

Much love!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

workers of iniquity,

Where in the story of the rich young ruler is Jesus referring to those as "workers of iniquity"?

 

[amigo de christo]

It doesn't say that. You can see for yourself:

Mark 10:20-27 KJV
20) And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21) Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23) And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24) And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25) It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26) And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
27) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Much love!

have you ever read in john
or in james , or what paul wrote .
About always correcting brethren in sin .
Have you ever wondered why , however , john once said
THERE IS A SIN that Is unto DEATH and i DO NOT say that he shall pray for it .
EVER wonder what he meant . SO WHY THE HECK ARE SO MANY FALLING IN LOVE WITH INTERFAITH ALL INCLUSIVE .
UNBELIEF IN CHRIST WILL NEVER SAVE ONE SOUL . THEY CANNOT be forgiven of their sins .
I STAND IN UTTER UPMOST DEFIANCE against interfaith all inclusive false love . YOU better do so too .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Go back 2 Peter, where does it say that stumbling is a permanent condition? Refer to Hebrews 12, and the chastening of the Lord.

10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Looking at Revelation 22:11 at our death we will remain in the status we die in. That means either righteous/sinless of sins unto death, or perfect/holy and never stumble in sins not unto death found in 2 Peter 1:5-7 fruit of the Spirit.

 

[marks]

10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

This does not say that stumbing means forever.

Looking at Revelation 22:11 at our death we will remain in the status we die in. That means either righteous/sinless of sins unto death, or perfect/holy and never stumble in sins not unto death found in 2 Peter 1:5-7 fruit of the Spirit.

That's whole nuther study.

But OK, this one is going nowhere.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Where in the story of the rich young ruler is Jesus referring to those as "workers of iniquity"?

No . . . that's those who claim to have done all these works in Jesus' name. Jesus calls them workers of iniquity, and says He never knew them. As previously stated quite a number of times, this passage shows that they were false, and therefore does not support your view that the born again can become unborn again.

Much love!